Who has the most stories on Lit?

[MagicFingers]

I noticed that goldenangel has 546 stories and 69 poems. And some red "H's" too.
Wow. I think someone has a thousand?
And I thought I had too many. LOL

 

[slyc_willie]

There are a few braggarts around here somewhere who will surely chime in sooner or later.

Me, I'm happy with what I've got.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

There are a few braggarts around here somewhere who will surely chime in sooner or later.

Me, I'm happy with what I've got.

Are we still talking stories here, slyc?

 

[al_Ussa]

Not me! I think I've only got ten up here right now... and only one red H (Gothic Daughter-in-LAw which IS one of my better stories).

 

[slyc_willie]

Are we still talking stories here, slyc?

Take it however you wish.

 

[MagicFingers]

I happy with what you got

Are we still talking stories here, slyc?

Didn't find the story count list, but I found a comment count.
LeBroz has 9172 comments!!!
I checked his bio: He has one story without a red "H".


And 30 WITH red "H's"!
So I might listen to this guys assesments of what's good or not.

 

[sr71plt]

I think anyone with total or near total red H's is just awarding those him/herself somehow. I find the ones that are half and half a lot more believable.

Of course, common sense would indicate that running around and scratching others' backs with nice comments/votes is a good nice vote generator of your own stories. This, however, just further makes the red H irrelevant to the real quality of the story.

 

[slyc_willie]

I think anyone with total or near total red H's is just awarding those him/herself somehow. I find the ones that are half and half a lot more believable.

Of course, common sense would indicate that running around and scratching others' backs with nice comments/votes is a good nice vote generator of your own stories. This, however, just further makes the red H irrelevant to the real quality of the story.

Nothing about my votes and reads are doctored in any way, and most of mine still have a red H. I've noticed that attracts a lot of trolls, especially when they see the occasional blue W, but oh well. As for the quality of the writing, I get enough good feedback about them to know that either the writing's good enough, or the story appealed to my readers in the right way, or both. So, I'm still happy with what I've got.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Take it however you wish.

Just a girly tease, big boy.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I think anyone with total or near total red H's is just awarding those him/herself somehow. I find the ones that are half and half a lot more believable.

Of course, common sense would indicate that running around and scratching others' backs with nice comments/votes is a good nice vote generator of your own stories. This, however, just further makes the red H irrelevant to the real quality of the story.

A tad bitter sr, and I think slyc summed it up well. Stories here get high votes if they fit well in the category, are well written - in that they avoid the obvious no-noes - and are enjoyable to read.

Except for contests, I think there is less manipulation than you believe. I would love someone to explain to me how so many people are clued up to get round the IP filters.

The list of favorite authors is a reasonable guide to whom the readership relates.

MagicFingers, the number of stories is pretty irrelevant (though BOSTONFICTIONWRITER must be a candidate for most). Accept no-one's view and find your own favorites by dipping into as many different writers as you have time for. The 'Top Lists' are not a bad place to start

 

[sr71plt]

A tad bitter sr.

No, not at all. Why do you feel the need to keep doing that sort of thing? I'm a realist. I suggest people not dwell on that sort of measurement as it's so easily--and often--cheatable here. The massive numbers sweeps reveal how prevalent it is.

But, again, why do you feel the need to keep doing that needling? An inferiority complex, I take it? (See, I can do that too.)

(And what would I have to be bitter about?--I don't post a story here--and I post one a week now--that hasn't already sold in the marketplace. What would I have to be bitter about story ratings here? Just suggesting it's a pretty false number, so others posting stories needn't get tied in knots over a red H.)

 

[sr71plt]

Ah, I see why you responded as you did, Elfin. All of your stories posted here (all of six; none in the last three years) have red H's on them. Yep, I think I can read those tea leaves. One wonders why you even hang on here, living off the distant past like that.

 

[TxRad]

No, not at all. Why do you feel the need to keep doing that sort of thing? I'm a realist. I suggest people not dwell on that sort of measurement as it's so easily--and often--cheatable here. The massive numbers sweeps reveal how prevalent it is.

But, again, why do you feel the need to keep doing that needling? An inferiority complex, I take it? (See, I can do that too.)

(And what would I have to be bitter about?--I don't post a story here--and I post one a week now--that hasn't already sold in the marketplace. What would I have to be bitter about story ratings here? Just suggesting it's a pretty false number, so others posting stories needn't get tied in knots over a red H.)

SR, I think you will find (If you could) that the majority of the mass sweep numbers comes from other authors in the contest. From what i could see in the Nude Day contest. every vote I made on a contest story was swept.

Also now ther must be at least three different types of sweeps.

 

[Elianna]

I PM'd Laurel about votes and Red H's the other day. At one time "Falling Into Darkness" had 1000 votes and all red H's. Since then, the number of votes went down to 250. I asked her if it's really possible to manipulate 750 votes and if people really do so. I really don't WANT to know the mechanics and possibilities of manipulating votes, actually, but I felt bereft. I believe I earned most of those votes and my red H's. It kinda sucks to lose that many votes to the sweeps program, but I always considered the votes to be legitimate. Maybe I'm an optimist in that respect.

I think that if you write a good story that people enjoy, you'll earn your red H. If you don't weave a good picture with words, or people can't imagine or relate, you won't. I read and backclick on a lot of what I would consider poorly-written stories. Sometimes, I can't even understand why things get the red H's. But I'm picky.

 

[sr71plt]

SR, I think you will find (If you could) that the majority of the mass sweep numbers comes from other authors in the contest. From what i could see in the Nude Day contest. every vote I made on a contest story was swept.

Also now ther must be at least three different types of sweeps.

TXRad, I believe votes here are manipulated in many different ways, for many different reasons, and by many different people--because they can and have motivation to do so. And so I believe readers and authors alike shouldn't get hung up by the red Hs to the extent of letting the red Hs guide or worry them all that much. Which was my bottom line here.

And which some folks always get defensive about (many of whom I think are naturally defensive because they know they are among the manipulators)--and then naturally start calling me names for having the audacity to shine a flashlight on human nature and the sieve nature of the voting system here. That, I'm sure, will never change either.

The intent, though, is to get authors who are worrying about not getting those red Hs to worry less about what not getting them means.

I do, in fact, think just the opposite of "great writer" when I see all red Hs on someone's chart and think more "manipulator." Great writers are controversial and at a site like Literotica will attract a whole bunch of negative, narrowminded zap voters. But then my name isn't Pollyanna.

Congrats on placing in the latest contest.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

A tad bitter sr, and I think slyc summed it up well. Stories here get high votes if they fit well in the category, are well written - in that they avoid the obvious no-noes - and are enjoyable to read.

Except for contests, I think there is less manipulation than you believe. I would love someone to explain to me how so many people are clued up to get round the IP filters.

The list of favorite authors is a reasonable guide to whom the readership relates.

MagicFingers, the number of stories is pretty irrelevant (though BOSTONFICTIONWRITER must be a candidate for most). Accept no-one's view and find your own favorites by dipping into as many different writers as you have time for. The 'Top Lists' are not a bad place to start

With 602 stories, 69 poems, and a tad over 1,500,000 words, I think I'm a candidate for the most prolific writer (not the best certainly) in a 2 1/2 year period.

For 2009, I've already posted 500,000 words under a different name. I no longer write under Bostonfictionwriter.

Literotica has given me reason to write every day and because of that I'm a better writer than I was when I first joined the site in 2007.

Moreover, after competing in two Survivor Contests, I agree with Sr71plt. The Survivor contest ruins a writer. Still, the contest taught me how to write fast and how to write about anything and everything. It allowed me to stretch my creativity.

Now, I write longer pieces, stories that are 3 and 4 Literotica pages.

 

[KillerMuffin]

The person with the most titles on Lit is SamuelX. They're not worth the effort of reading, unless you want to see an fine example of how not to do it.

 

[MiliktheRed]

Quantity has a quality of its own. My hat is off to people like bostenfictionwriter. I have been writing since March of this year and will post my 9th story soon. Even at that comparitively slow pace, I find it difficult to keep comming up with fresh ideas.

As far as the Red H's go, well there nice, but what I really find rewarding are the comments and emails I've received. The last thing I expected when I first posted was to find other writers who care to talk about their work and share ideas on how to improve our stories. I really am impressed by the Lit community, even considering the trolls.

 

[ClimbHi]

I believe I earned most of those votes and my red H's.

Just so you know . . . I check pretty much every freakin' day to see if there's an update to Redemption. IMHO, you earned every single one of those red "H"s.

In spades.

Hope the series continues, 'cause I'll keep checking.

ClimbHi

 

[CWatson]

Quantity has a quality of its own.

I disagree with that. 20,000 pages of dreck is still dreck.

Now, I'm a perfectionist jerkwad and a condescending snob, and I know it. But when I see someone who posts a story every day (or more!), my first thought is, "WTF, what day job does this bastard have that he can write this much, and how do I get it!!" My second is, "This stuff can't be very good." Because I believe that a good story come out of two things. One is, yes, talent, which (evidently) SamuelX has in spades. But the other is effort, skull sweat and hard work.

This guy has been able to post more than one story a day for several years. Clearly, he isn't working hard on any of his stories--he's just scribbling them down, patting himself on the back that he didn't misspell anything, and calling it a day. He's not putting any effort in; effort is a more-than-one-day prospect. And while I respect his talent, and envy his prolificacy, I do not respect his laziness. He is wasting what he has. God made him the next Stephen King, but instead of living up to it he is mucking around in the playground stroking his own ego. These are not stories, these are masturbation in the form of words. Do not ask me to respect that. Do not tell me that is worthy of respect. You and I both know better.

If only SamuelX did.

 

[sr71plt]

That "effort is more than a one-day prospect" sounds kicky, but of course it's not really true. A great story can be conceived, written, and sold in a day, and there are folks who have the talent and imagination to produce great quantities of good work over prolonged periods. That, in itself, is by no means impossible.

 

[CWatson]

True, it's not impossible. But is it likely? And nine-hundred-something of them?

Besides, we need to take writer's block into account. Even those people who produce massive bodies of high-quality work on a quick time frame (I'm thinking Epic Fantasy right now--Harry Potter, for instance, which was something like a million words over 17 years) get stuck and have to slow down and think. Why? Because they challenge themselves. Because they've bitten off more than they can chew. Because they're not good enough, yet, to do the story well. Writer's block, if you believe my argument--and to be fair, I'm not sure that I myself do, but let me posit it and see what you think--Writer's block is a sure sign that the writer in question is in the process of maturing.

So when I see a writer who can produce a massive and fluent body of work without delay, I assume he's just spinning his wheels. He isn't challenging himself, he isn't trying anything new, he isn't getting better. ...Well, no, that's not fair, he's probably getting better very slowly, one nanometer per story; that's inherent in the craft. But let me be frank: I'm fairly sure that I get better over the course of one story than SamuelX did over his entire body of work. Because I'm trying, while he's just coasting on his (considerable) (and frankly enviable) native talent. I'm reaching for the stars, and he's not.

It is possible that I will never catch them.

It is certain that he never will.

 

[sr71plt]

I think this is an area where sweeping generalizations don't work. We all have different capacities for both imagination and productivity and, for some, these can converge. And when they are combined with time available, pretty much the sky's the limit. I can churn out 8,000 or 9,000 words a day from "just conceived" story plots and turn around and do the same thing the next day and can, and have, and do produce nearly a million marketable words a year over a prolonged time. I trained to do it in my career and have continued to do it in semiretirement.

On Saturday I woke up with five story ideas, wrote up three that day to a tune of 8,500 words, another one on Sunday, and I judge I'll get the last one, plus the story on a new thought done today--all immediately off to my editor, all guaranteed sales in the marketplace.

That's not to brag--it's just to say that your sweeping generalization does not hold. Folks have different capacities and writing talent levels and time available there are those who, in fact, can churn out a million marketable words in a year.

I have no idea about what I think of the quality of SamuelX's output, as I haven't read it. But I also don't think that either you or I know enough about the talent, capacities, and time available there to cap what SameulX can churn out of acceptable stories to post here.

 

[CWatson]

...I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. So, yeah. You go your way, and I'll go mine, and we'll see which of us gets farther.

(Though, considering you're already published, evidently, and I haven't a hope in hell of that right now, the question may already be answered. )

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah, I didn't really think you'd disagree with evidence given (and easily verifiable). But then, I guess not.

I'm just not a fan of sweeping generalizations (or "truisms" that don't hold water).