While murder is going down nationwide, one RED STATE bravely bucks the trend

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By ALAN SAYRE, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 18 minutes ago

NEW ORLEANS - Last year, university researchers conducted an experiment in which police fired 700 blank rounds in a New Orleans neighborhood in a single afternoon. No one called to report the gunfire.

New Orleans residents are reluctant to come forward as witnesses, fearing retaliation. And experts say that is one of several reasons homicides are on the rise in the Big Easy at a time when other cities are seeing their murder rates plummet to levels not seen in decades.

The city's murder rate is still far lower than a decade ago, when New Orleans was the country's murder capital. But in recent years, the city's homicide rate has climbed again to nearly 10 times the national average.

"We're going in the reverse of 46 of the top 50 cities in the United States. Almost everyone is going down, but we're going up," said criminologist Peter Scharf. "There is something going on in New Orleans that is not going on elsewhere."

Many of the killings are related to drugs and gangs — but police say more are simply disputes that get out of hand.

Along with reluctant witnesses, experts say the city has too few police and inexperienced prosecutors. Coming up with more cash has been a chronic problem for money-pinched New Orleans, which typically lurches from budget to budget.

"As far as law enforcement goes, money is at the root of everything," said Lt. David Benelli, head of the police officers' union. "We need more personnel, more equipment. The DA's office needs more people and money. The corrections department needs more people and space to house prisoners."

Homicides hit their historic peak here in 1994, with 421 dead — more per-capita than any other U.S. city that year. Within just five years, the number was slashed by nearly two-thirds, to 159, as homicides plummeted nationally.

But by last year, the number in New Orleans had crept back up to 265. There had been 192 this year by mid-August, compared with 169 at the same time in 2004. Adjusted for the city's size, those numbers dwarf murder rates in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City.

For police, recruitment is a continuing problem. The department has a poor image in the community, with allegations of brutality and corruption dating back decades. The city now has 3.14 officers per 1,000 residents — less than half the rate in Washington, D.C.

Scharf, director for the Center for Society, Law and Justice, said extra police are not always the solution to crime.

"My heart goes out to these police officers," Scharf said. "They're fighting public apathy, racial division and a dysfunctional court system. They work their hearts out and nothing ever happens to these cases."

Only one in four people arrested in the city for murder is eventually convicted, according to a recent study by the New Orleans Police Foundation, a private nonprofit group.

According to the study, 42 percent of serious crime cases reviewed by prosecutors — about 22,000 — were turned away between 2002 and 2004 because the cases were not deemed suitable for court.

District Attorney Eddie Jordan said the lack of eyewitness testimony was one reason for the dropped cases. New Orleans has had such a problem with retaliation against witnesses — including murder — that the district attorney's office took the unusual step of starting a local witness protection program.

Witnesses may also be reluctant to talk to police because of the department's struggles with allegations of brutality and corruption.

In the 1990s, two rogue cops turned out to be killers. Former Police Superintendent Richard Pennington, now Atlanta's chief, is credited with cleaning up the department, purging scores of bad cops during the 1990s.

But recently, complaints about police brutality have surfaced again.

In March, a New Orleans ritual — the annual St. Joseph's night assembly of the Mardi Gras Indians, black residents who dress up in elaborate costumes — was marred by complaints that officers roughed up members.

In early August, allegations surfaced that two officers had beaten a man before dropping him off at a hospital. The department has had little to say about the case, but Police Superintendent Eddie Compass ordered an investigation and called in the
FBI to help.

Compass has tried to burnish the department's image with community outreach, including ordering officers to address people as "sir" and "ma'am." But the same day that order came down, the department was dealt another blow when a drug-related gun battle erupted in a residential neighborhood, leaving four people dead.

Rafael Goyeneche, a former state prosecutor who now heads the private Metropolitan Crime Commission, said both the district attorney and the police are trying to seriously tackle violent crime — but under current budgets, that will be tough.

"Unless they are given additional resources, and that means manpower and more money to recruit and retain, I'm fearful that we are not going to make any lasting and meaningful progress in combatting crime in this community," Goyeneche said.
 
There is a great Documentary produced by New orleans gang members called

"New Orleans Exposed" netflix has it.
 
You just had to say red state didn't you. Just couldn't help yourself. Now, what might have been an interesting discussion point will degenerate into name calling and finger pointing if, and when, any of the right wingnuts read this.
 
Louisiana is not a red state. It just has a lot of red people in it.
 
The whole "red state" and "blue state" thing is silly.

People in a given state have differing political views.

As they should.
 
It ain't that fewer people are getting shot, it's that fewer of them are dying. Even the Army sends their medics to big city emergency rooms to learn to treat gunshot victims.
 
If it was a truly red state they'd have changed the name of New Orleans.

On the other hand, maybe they don't know where old Orleans is.
 
Borscht said:
If it was a truly red state they'd have changed the name of New Orleans.

On the other hand, maybe they don't know where old Orleans is.

funny but possibly true
 
Paendragon said:
You just had to say red state didn't you. Just couldn't help yourself. Now, what might have been an interesting discussion point will degenerate into name calling and finger pointing if, and when, any of the right wingnuts read this.

Yeah. He also is probably hoping that someone doesn't tell you that the current and former mayors of New Orleans are Democrats. Doh!
 
cg_allstar said:
Yeah. He also is probably hoping that someone doesn't tell you that the current and former mayors of New Orleans are Democrats. Doh!
Wow, the mayors are Democrats. Big deal.

We've got tons and tons of liberals and liberal leaders in the blue states but do you see us fucking shit up as bad as you red staters? Hell no. We not only lag behind you in murders committed but also the number of meth labs, pregnant teens, and we even suck up less Federal dollars than you guys do. On the other hand we do got all dem dar kommunist colleges and shit not to mention all that nerdy dorky intellectual capital that you repigs are trying to drive out of the country.
 
LovingTongue said:
Wow, the mayors are Democrats. Big deal.

We've got tons and tons of liberals and liberal leaders in the blue states but do you see us fucking shit up as bad as you red staters? Hell no. We not only lag behind you in murders committed but also the number of meth labs, pregnant teens, and we even suck up less Federal dollars than you guys do. On the other hand we do got all dem dar kommunist colleges and shit not to mention all that nerdy dorky intellectual capital that you repigs are trying to drive out of the country.

A) When it comes to cities, the buck stops with the mayor. New Orleans' murder rate is rising and the Dems are and have been in charge. Same goes for most of the cities at the top of the murder list. Choke on it, bitch.

B) As for Federal dollars, you're right. Your side lost the election. It has less power in Congress. We get the $$$.
 
Thanks LT . . . more evidence that the American Dream has become the American Nightmare . . . :)

So sad really . . . ;)
 
LovingTongue said:
Wow, the mayors are Democrats. Big deal.

We've got tons and tons of liberals and liberal leaders in the blue states but do you see us fucking shit up as bad as you red staters? Hell no. We not only lag behind you in murders committed but also the number of meth labs, pregnant teens, and we even suck up less Federal dollars than you guys do. On the other hand we do got all dem dar kommunist colleges and shit not to mention all that nerdy dorky intellectual capital that you repigs are trying to drive out of the country.

Since we're playing to the stereotyping crowd here, do you suppose it was a "Red State" neighborhood where the cops fired 700 blanks in one afternoon?
Put more bluntly, was this murder rate compiled in the inner city of New Orleans, where such crimes are statistically more likely to occur. And if so, does this sound like the stereotypical home to a bunch of Republicans?
If Louisiana votes "blue" in 2008 and the murder rate is unchanged, who do we blame?
 
Don K Dyck said:
Thanks LT . . . more evidence that the American Dream has become the American Nightmare . . . :)

So sad really . . . ;)

Right. Missed this part, didn't you? "We're going in the reverse of 46 of the top 50 cities in the United States. Almost everyone is going down..."

Are you the worlds greatest pessimist seeing the glass as 8% empty rather than 92% full, or just a complete and utter fuck head?
 
LT would feel really stupid if he knew John Kerry carried the Orleans Parish 78% to Bush's 22%. New Orleans is so blue, it's fucking deep purple.
 
WriterDom said:
LT would feel really stupid if he knew John Kerry carried the Orleans Parish 78% to Bush's 22%. New Orleans is so blue, it's fucking deep purple.

AMEN Brother
 
WriterDom said:
LT would feel really stupid if he knew John Kerry carried the Orleans Parish 78% to Bush's 22%. New Orleans is so blue, it's fucking deep purple.

Careful. You're picking on one of LT's poorly thought out threads. Now he's going to start insulting you.
It's also likely he'll say you support something you don't care anything about one way or the other.
 
Thats a red state?

How retarded. Not only is the mayor of New Orleans a dem, but most of the city council is, as is the governor of the state, both US senators, the Congressional represenatative from Orleans parish and most of the state legislature.
 
Ham Murabi said:
Careful. You're picking on one of LT's poorly thought out threads. Now he's going to start insulting you.
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Won't be the first time.
 
Spank me again, LT...since you like to spank those from the red states/are kinda conservative... I ask you to SPANK ME LIKE YOU MEAN IT!!

If you can.

*Kharis*
 
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