Wheres the Human Rights Outcry about Danny Pearls Murder?

[bored1]

Danny Pearl was brutally murdered as we all know,What I dont understand is the SILENCE from all the Human Rights Groups and the Socialist European Media and the Usual Civil Rights Groups in the US.Yet remember the outcry about the treatment of the detainees? In the meantime 2 of the peace loving detainees recieved surgery today compliments of the US taxpayer.I could find nothing on Amnesty Internationals web site and other Human rights sites as well concerning Danny Pearl. These groups are frauds.

 

[p_p_man]

Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated.

He was kidnapped and murdured by criminals. Not held prisoner by a government.

If you're going to defend the United States treatment of the prisoners on Cuba, defend sensibly.

ppman

 

[riff]

Fuck, I don't know how am I the fuck supposed to fucking know that?

These two tarts look pretty fucking clueless too. Proceed.

 

[Mensa]

Re: Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated.

He was kidnapped and murdured by criminals. Not held prisoner by a government.

If you're going to defend the United States treatment of the prisoners on Cuba, defend sensibly.

ppman

It does speak volumes about what some of these people are really like. Danny Pearl was not a combatant, he had nothing to do with "official" Washington. He was a reporter, a civilian. His only "crime" was that he was an American. I would say that a hell of a lot more than his human rights were violated by this gang of cowards.

The least these "Human" rights organizations could do is express outrage at such a heinous act and offer condolences to the man's family. They couldn't even bring themselves to perform that little act of decency. Respect for them and their concerns is in short supply, just as they deserve.

 

[bored1]

Re: Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated.

He was kidnapped and murdured by criminals. Not held prisoner by a government.

If you're going to defend the United States treatment of the prisoners on Cuba, defend sensibly.

ppman

Im not defending anyone. I just want to know why the same Socialist groups who constantly pound the US about "Human Rights" are quiet about this violation of Pearls human rights. I have yet to hear one "Moderate" Muslim condemn what was done to that man.Imagine the outcry if some "criminals" in the US kidnapped and murdered an Islamic reporter in retaliation.The fact is they are not criminals they are animals and should be hunted down and killed.

 

[p_p_man]

bored1 and Mensa...

Both of you are misunderstanding the reason for the existence of Human Rights movements. They are not there to bring to everyones attention to every murder that is carried out in the world by non-governments.

They are there as watchdogs over authority's treatment of prisoners in their care.

Whilst we're on the subject I didn't hear any protest from Bush either about the violation of Danny Pearl's human rights.

ppman

 

[bored1]

Re: bored1 and Mensa...

Both of you are misunderstanding the reason for the existence of Human Rights movements. They are not there to bring to everyones attention to every murder that is carried out in the world by non-governments.

They are there as watchdogs over authority's treatment of prisoners in their care.

Whilst we're on the subject I didn't hear any protest from Bush either about the violation of Danny Pearl's human rights.

ppman

So, Mr Pearl was just an everyday run of the mill murder?And only governments can violate human rights,What a bunch of self serving nonsense.He was murdered because he was an American Jew. As for "misunderstanding" the human rights moment,there are a few things I admit I dont understand,like, the lack of outcry when certain governments stone adulters to death or cut there hands off for stealing or shoot prisnors in the back of the head etc. Oh yeah now I understand its about diversity.Bush had the decency to express sympathy to the family something no Muslim group has done.

 

[Mensa]

Re: bored1 and Mensa...

Both of you are misunderstanding the reason for the existence of Human Rights movements. They are not there to bring to everyones attention to every murder that is carried out in the world by non-governments.

They are there as watchdogs over authority's treatment of prisoners in their care.

Whilst we're on the subject I didn't hear any protest from Bush either about the violation of Danny Pearl's human rights.

ppman

I'm fully aware of the raison d'etre of Human Rights organizations. It would have been politic and decent to at least mention their opposition to such an act. Silence, in this case, seems to indicate indifference.

Sorry, guy, but they're on the wrong side in this one. Bush condemned the criminal actions more profoundly than did any member of such "august" and "caring" bodies. The murderers actions expose them as criminals, not political activists, just garden variety criminals.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: bored1 and Mensa...

Sorry, guy, but they're on the wrong side in this one. Bush condemned the criminal actions more profoundly than did any member of such "august" and "caring" bodies.

Yes, as did Blair. But neither mentioned Human Rights.

As bored1 was raising the question of non-protest from the Human Rights organisations, I was replying in like kind.

 

[Mensa]

Re: Re: Re: bored1 and Mensa...

Yes, as did Blair. But neither mentioned Human Rights.

As bored1 was raising the question of non-protest from the Human Rights organisations, I was replying in like kind.

The key word is "Human" . It would have been the right thing to do from a human point of view. This act transcends their mandate.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Re: Re: bored1 and Mensa...

The key word is "Human" . It would have been the right thing to do from a human point of view. This act transcends their mandate.

OK. But instead of getting bogged down in detail, I'll answer in general terms.

bored1 made a statement with regards to Human Rights Organisations and Danny Pearl. It looked to me like an an attack on people who give up their lives to the protection of others.

I don't think bored1 said what he did and meant it. I think he said what he did to prove a right wing point.

Otherwise he would also mention other bodies and individuals who did not question the violation of Danny Pearl's Human Rights.

If bored1 is going to use the Board to spread the Right Wing message. then all I ask of him is not to focus on small areas of the Left Wing philosophy.

But as he's probably gone to bed now I doubt if he'll read this.

ppman

 

[miles]

Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated.


That is undoubtedly the stupidest statement I've seen in quite some time.


His human rights weren't violated, he was just kidnapped and murdered.

Un-fuckingbelievable.

 

[Siren]

I agree with ya bored

 

[Unclebill]

Re: Re: Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated.

Originally posted by Mensa
. . . His only "crime" was that he was an American. . .

Not quite accurate; park of his crime was being a Jew also. The animals that slaughtered him made that quite clear.

And the idea that "Maybe it's because his human rights weren't violated." just reinforces what I've said numerous time; there are so very few people who understand the concept of rights.

And from my observation of these self-proclaimed Human Rights outfits stand for most everything but that.

These morons are vastly concerned with the treatment of the animals incarcerated in Cuba under quite humane conditions yet they are silent regarding the treatment of the Chinese people subjected to a terrorizing Communist government. And where is the outcry over the terrorist animals held in Afghanistan? Are they held in better conditions than those in Cuba? But of course they must be; how could I not see the obvious?

They ignore for the most part the slaughters that occur routinely in Africa by the latest thug who designates himself a government and pacifies his opposition with a withering hail of machine gun fire or some similar means of eliciting their allegiance.

They seem really concerned, don't they, with Sadam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait, his (and many Arabic nations) expressed intent to eliminate Israel, his use of chemical weapons on people in his own country, etc.

Yup, the Human Rights people really impress me.

Am I surprised that they care nothing for a single American life, or a Jewish life? Hardly. It merely supports my existing judgement of them.

Miles, sadly, after dealing with this mentality for the time you and I have encountered it here, I find it all to believable; absolutely disgusting, despicable, intellectually dshonest, utterly bereft of humanity, but all too believable.

 

[bluespoke]

Well said Unclebill.

I agree wholeheartedly with every word.

Too often the Human Rights organisations asume that the Western Industrial nations cannot suffer abuse. Why, are we not human too?

The argument that they don't involve themselves with individuals is crap. Every human being is an individual and deserves as much consideration as any other.

Despite ignoring cases like this they will still be sending out the letters for membership and funds. The waste paper bin will be waiting for mine.

 

[bored1]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bored1 and Mensa...

OK. But instead of getting bogged down in detail, I'll answer in general terms.

bored1 made a statement with regards to Human Rights Organisations and Danny Pearl. It looked to me like an an attack on people who give up their lives to the protection of others.

I don't think bored1 said what he did and meant it. I think he said what he did to prove a right wing point.

Otherwise he would also mention other bodies and individuals who did not question the violation of Danny Pearl's Human Rights.

If bored1 is going to use the Board to spread the Right Wing message. then all I ask of him is not to focus on small areas of the Left Wing philosophy.

But as he's probably gone to bed now I doubt if he'll read this.

ppman

Spreading a right wing message?I think not,I was just pointing out the obvious fraud of "Rights" groups.-- I meant everything I said.I quess I should have mentioned some of the European Media who also didnt seem to care that the man was butchered,but went to great lengths to expose the "mistreatment" of the heathens in Cuba.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I try to look at both sides of an issue, and will admit freely that Im right of center when it comes to certain issues mostly economic and geopolitical and a little left on issues of individual "Human" rights.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The fact remains that the Ultra Left just doesnt get it,What these people did to Pearl they would do to anyone who posts on this board.Including you ppman-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I truly believe that we are in the infancy of WW3, now some may find that a little extreme and thats fine.read a little history from the early 30s there are many similarities.Either deal with these animals now or deal with them after they nuke a major western city. They care nothing about human rights.the fact that so called human rights groups are quiet on the abuses in the 3rd world cess pools speaks volumes.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Oh yea I did go to bed!

 

[jass1960]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bored1 and Mensa...

.......expose the "mistreatment" of the heathens in Cuba

Despite your protests of innocence I think the above phrase shows where you are coming from

 

[Marxist]

What the hell are Human Rights groups going to do about a kidnapping? It's not like they can provide money for legal council, demand an embassy to cooperate, or march down the streets with banners demanding a hostage's release.


This has to be one of the dumbest threads of the year.


Your heart was in the right place Bored 1 but the question is just plain stupid. It's like asking "What's the post office doing about the rise in crime?"

 

[jass1960]

"What's the post office doing about the rise in crime?"

...thats what I would like to know

 

[Mensa]

What the hell are Human Rights groups going to do about a kidnapping?

They issue press-releases all the time on a myriad of issues. They could have released one condemning the murderous act, that's all, just that one little act would have spoken volumes. But they couldn't bring themselves to do even that.

If you are a Human Rights organization, you must be concerned with all humans, not just those that support your own political agenda. Something not enough of these people seem to understand. Perhaps it's time for a housecleaning.

 

[Marxist]

...thats what I would like to know

When they found anthrax in the mail they sent everyone on Capitol Hill home, gave them Cipro, and decontaminated the building. They gave the postal workers a lawn mask, rubber gloves, and a can of Lysol.

Maybe we should send the postal workers after the terrorists. I mean hell, the postman is probably armed already. Let's just let him take out his frustration on Osama instead of the co-worker that took a bite out of his tunafish sandwich and put it back in the fridge.

 

[bored1]

They issue press-releases all the time on a myriad of issues. They could have released one condemning the murderous act, that's all, just that one little act would have spoken volumes. But they couldn't bring themselves to do even that.

If you are a Human Rights organization, you must be concerned with all humans, not just those that support your own political agenda. Something not enough of these people seem to understand. Perhaps it's time for a housecleaning.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very Well Said Mensa.

 

[Marxist]

They issue press-releases all the time on a myriad of issues. They could have released one condemning the murderous act, that's all, just that one little act would have spoken volumes. But they couldn't bring themselves to do even that.

That would be less than the equivalent of that post office I spoke of and those flyers listing the MOST WANTED criminals on the wall. I guess THAT's what the post office is doing about crime.


The idea of asking a private organization dependent on limited private funding to devote time and energy to a problem that they can have zero impact in settling is moronic and a time waster.


Amnesty International DOES work against established terrorist groups (the Shining Path in Peru for example) that have some form of government and aren't stictly thugs and criminals who don't give a flying fuck about the appeals of Human Rights groups.


I can't believe this is even a topic of conversation...


Are you guys just looking to poke at the Human Rights groups? I have a lot of sympathy for Daniel Pearl but think about this:

1. No one made him go to a very volatile region. He volunteered to cover it. He liked the adventure and first person perspective.

2. He knew his wife was pregnant before he left. I think that's a pretty good reason to stay at home and out of a war zone where journalists have been killed and kidnapped with impunity.

3. He used poor judgement in meeting his "source." Pearl was not super-experienced in this kind of clandestine behavior.

4. He was an Israeli Jew with heavily Jewish features. He stood out like me at a klan rally.


I feel for Pearl's wife and family but Human Rights groups could not have done a goddamned thing.

 

[Mensa]

That would be less than the equivalent of that post office I spoke of and those flyers listing the MOST WANTED criminals on the wall. I guess THAT's what the post office is doing about crime.


The idea of asking a private organization dependent on limited private funding to devote time and energy to a problem that they can have zero impact in settling is moronic and a time waster.


Amnesty International DOES work against established terrorist groups (the Shining Path in Peru for example) that have some form of government and aren't stictly thugs and criminals who don't give a flying fuck about the appeals of Human Rights groups.


I can't believe this is even a topic of conversation...


Are you guys just looking to poke at the Human Rights groups? I have a lot of sympathy for Daniel Pearl but think about this:

1. No one made him go to a very volatile region. He volunteered to cover it. He liked the adventure and first person perspective.

2. He knew his wife was pregnant before he left. I think that's a pretty good reason to stay at home and out of a war zone where journalists have been killed and kidnapped with impunity.

3. He used poor judgement in meeting his "source." Pearl was not super-experienced in this kind of clandestine behavior.

4. He was an Israeli Jew with heavily Jewish features. He stood out like me at a klan rally.


I feel for Pearl's wife and family but Human Rights groups could not have done a goddamned thing.

Blaming the victim is base. The Human Rights groups could have done something, they could have expressed outrage at such a vile act. They couldn't change what happened but they could have acted Human post-facto and done the right thing. Defending the indefensible is a no-win proposition.

 

[Marxist]

Blaming the victim is base. The Human Rights groups could have done something, they could have expressed outrage at such a vile act. They couldn't change what happened but they could have acted Human post-facto and done the right thing. Defending the indefensible is a no-win proposition.

"Expressed outrage." LOL

Does a get-well card cure cancer?


He knew the risks and took them. The people that could do something substantiative tried and failed.

This is a sorehead issue for someone like Rush, not someone like you Mensa.