Where's a bat when you need one?

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Fuck the politics of it. Everyone and their mother knows this asshole is a misogynistic pig. He spends hours upon hours being proud of his chauvinistic pig image. We all know he's guilty. But he can't resist trying to use his power as a media icon to score a "man, am I strong and have a big dick" victory over womenkind.

Fuckin' makes me sick. It's the reason I tend to hate my gender.

Bill O'Reily Sexual Harassment

 

[impressive]

And the hubris to intimate that the publicity will influence the election? Who the fuck does this prick think he is?

 

[minsue]

A countersuit for slander and a challenge to play recordings of the phone calls even though she hasn't said any recordings exist. Smart.

 

[Edward Teach]

Fuck the politics of it. Everyone and their mother knows this asshole is a misogynistic pig. He spends hours upon hours being proud of his chauvinistic pig image. We all know he's guilty. But he can't resist trying to use his power as a media icon to score a "man, am I strong and have a big dick" victory over womenkind.

Fuckin' makes me sick. It's the reason I tend to hate my gender.

Bill O'Reily Sexual Harassment

He ain't worth getting upset over, LC. Besides, he can't even write decent porn.

You know, the sad part is that he could probably be as successful or at least nearly as successful, a benefit to society even, without being a hypocritical, lying bully.

Ed

 

[Guest]

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Hmmm... a misogynic asshole who harasses women sexually, threatens them when they protest, and is a favourite among the Republicans...

Who would have guessed..?

 

[BlackSnake]

Fuck the politics of it. Everyone and their mother knows this asshole is a misogynistic pig. He spends hours upon hours being proud of his chauvinistic pig image. We all know he's guilty. But he can't resist trying to use his power as a media icon to score a "man, am I strong and have a big dick" victory over womenkind.

Fuckin' makes me sick. It's the reason I tend to hate my gender.

Bill O'Reily Sexual Harassment

I don't hate my gender, but I watched the Donald Trump show last night. Talk about a group of idoits. Making women clothes..."...I know what I like seeing women in..." Freakin' idoit. They totally lost their minds when the models showed up. Just because you like seeing women wearing certain things, don't mean that they would be caught dead in it. Damn!

On the subject, I don't even consider men like O'Reily as a member of my gender. If he had a big tool, he would have to try to beat a woman down to get her in bed.

Men of my gender don't want to be superior to women. The desire is to be chosen by women.

IMO

 

[BlackSnake]

Hmmm... a misogynic asshole who harasses women sexually, threatens them when they protest, and is a favourite among the Republicans...

Who would have guessed..?

I am a Republican, but I don't favor this guy.

 

[Lord Naraku]

It is very sad that people in America are no longer innocent till proven guility. In the articile posted I saw no evidence against this man. I guess I'll run and get the rope since it's fairly clear no one thinks he might be innocent.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I am a Republican, but I don't favor this guy.

Every rule has an exception.

 

[cantdog]

It is very sad that people in America are no longer innocent till proven guility. In the articile posted I saw no evidence against this man. I guess I'll run and get the rope since it's fairly clear no one thinks he might be innocent.

The test, under the ridiculous provisions of the sexual harassment statute, is "Did she ever say the language or behavior was unwanted?"

If she did, then he must stop it. If he does not, then he's in violation.

The way the thing is set up, the most prudish person in a workplace determines the limits. And all they have to do is say it makes them uncomfortable, whether it's sexual or not. After that, it doesn't matter how otherwise appropriate the language or behavior might be. If one person says she is uncomfortable the behavior must cease. It's very different from any kind of criminal law.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

As it SHOULD be! Otherwise, we'd have women trying to tell judges that they felt uncomfortable with their male coworkers pinching their behinds, staring at their boobs, or asking if they "had gotten any lately", and tje judges would agree with the men who say "oh, come ON! I was just kidding!"

 

[cantdog]

In my experience, peons lose their jobs when harassment complaints occur, but people like Clarence Thomas and O'Reilly are never in any jeopardy.

The girl will suffer far worse out of this than that ass will, whether he did it or not.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I read the news item and it seems to be a he said/she said kind of thing. Even assuming he is a misogynistic pig, that doesn't, in itself, mean he made these sexual harassing phone calls. It is up to the plaintiff to prove it. His lawyer says he believes there are tapes of the conversations. If there are, they will prove who is right. If there are none, and she has no evidence except her own word, she shouldn't win.

If he can't prove an attempt at extortion, he shouldn't prevail in his lawsuit either.

Now, I suppose a lot of women, especially Dita will flame me for basically saying the man should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

 

[rgraham666]

You don't need a baseball bat, Lucifer. A tightly rolled magazine works just as well. It's denser and harder than a piece of wood the same size.

Penthouse is just about right. Playboy is a little too thick to roll properly. Time and Newsweek are too thin. And the stiff spine of National Geographic prevents proper rolling as well.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I read the news item and it seems to be a he said/she said kind of thing. Even assuming he is a misogynistic pig, that doesn't, in itself, mean he made these sexual harassing phone calls. It is up to the plaintiff to prove it. His lawyer says he believes there are tapes of the conversations. If there are, they will prove who is right. If there are none, and she has no evidence except her own word, she shouldn't win.

If he can't prove an attempt at extortion, he shouldn't prevail in his lawsuit either.

Now, I suppose a lot of women, especially Dita will flame me for basically saying the man should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Whether he did or did not do it, is something that should be proven in a court of law. That said, his past words and actions ARE admissible IF and only if, they demonstrate a pattern of harassment. Thats in a court of law.

In the court of public opinion, he's guilty of enough infractions of common courtesy towards women that ladies are likely to be up in arms and pre judge him, men who don't carry his neandertal perception of women and their place as well.

Innocent until proven guilty is the law of the land, but if you are already guilty of being a misogynistic pig, you don't have a lot of room to demand the benefit of the doubt. His lawyers are going to use a lot of their exclusiuons to keep women off that jury, methinks.

-Colly

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Naruto, Box,

I understand the idea of innocent until proven guilty, but much like the OJ trial and the Westerfield trial, there are times when you want to cry out enough is enough.

O'Reilly is obviously guilty in this case. His anti-female actions have been well-documented, his counter-attack mean-spirited, and his strong opposition to any sort of sexual harrassment law and pro-female endeavor at all is well-known. We can see the bloodied knife in his hands metaphorically speaking, but we all play along with his dreamed up attack on sexual harrassment laws, because he's IUG. For the next three months, I guarantee all we'll hear on his show is attacks on feminists and women who "think they can bring me down" and a shredding of any decency she might have left. Like a rape victim, she will be torn to shreds by asshole lawyers and will likely have little chance to get a new job outside VERY Sympathetic organizations. Also, I guarantee that before the case is over she will be charged with theft, blatant sexual teasing, and probably at least one mention of her hitting on O'Reilly. All of them will be lies calculated to defame her because in our twisted system of justice it is really the complaining woman who is on trial. The man scores hits with the jury by making her out to be a monster and the more the woman has to defend, the less credibility she'll have when she desperately tries to make her case. It is exactly similar to rape cases in many respects.

BlackSnake, I agree that this guy does not have a big dick. He has a small one and a bad personality. That is why he has to use his power. And he uses it, even on air, like an invincible weapon. Look at his language, listen to his rants right now. He's got himself up like God because a woman dared question his practices. He wants to use it to dismantle the works of the "feminazis". He sees this has nothing more than a means to political victory. And the bitch of it is he'll probably win. He's got the money, the power, and a horde of women-hating fans who'll support him till the end. He'll ruin this woman and gloat afterwards, call it a victory for men everywhere.

That's why this brings me down.

-Lucifer the male pig-hater

P.S. rgraham, Maybe a phonebook could do the trick?
Edward, I know, it's just sometimes...You can't help yourself, especially when you're cynical enough to pretty much tell the future.
imp, He thinks he's God. Just like the rest of them.
svenska, cant, thanks for getting what I was really upset at.
Colleen, you probably said it better, again.

 

[cantdog]

Sounds like a wrap, people!

*dusts hands, takes deep breath, smiles with satisfaction*

Ok, there's another smooth, neat job of discussion. Beautiful work from all concerned! And! We got through the whole thing right to its conclusion without amicus or what's-his-name.