Where do you buy music?

[Wildcard Ky]

I found a music site that only charges about 20 cents per song. Seems like most sites charge about $1 these days.

It's a russian site, but that doesn't bother me any. I've been getting music from there for awhile, and there's never been any problems.

Just thought some of you might be interested in it.

Here's a link

GoMusic.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Music - I only buy CD's.

Target, Everybody's Music Store and Borders.











I might add, I have mostly classic rock and Irish music.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I buy CDs at Best Buy.

I used to go to Tower for a superior selection, but then they closed.

I think I might switch to strictly Amazon though, as I can get anything in print from there.

 

[buxxxom]

Mostly from Amazon. I like having the actual CDs in my hands. If you lose the song/download license, you have to pay again.

 

[Liar]

Thr Russian sites (there's another one too, can't remember what it's called) use some kind of loophole in Russian copyright law that means they don't have to pay the record laberls or the artists a single dime.

So buying from there is morally as "bad" as downloading the pirated stuff. Now, I don't have any morals vis-a-vis the bigass record companies. So i miught as well get it from file sharing. On the other hand, I seldom listen to the music they put out.

Last music I bought was from www.dreamfreeze.com. And many of my favourite artists sell their music via their own websites these days.

 

[DeeZire]

It's a russian site, but that doesn't bother me any. I've been getting music from there for awhile, and there's never been any problems.

The 'problems' don't occur on the consumer end, (other than NARAS lawsuits, which are rare for small-time consumers,) they occur on the creation end. Downloads have caused a thirty-percent drop in sales (outdated figure, probably more like fifty-percent) which translates into a fifty-percent cut in the incomes of songwriters and artists. Granted, some major label artists aren't worth worrying about, but the songwriters are.

How would you feel if you found success as a writer, and you started seeing an annual income of say, $30k. You quit your day job and dedicate your life to your art. Then, free downloading cuts your annual income to $15k. Would you still post links to sites that offer cheap downloads that don't compensate the writers? I don't think so.

A good site for independent music is CDbaby.com. Artists put their music up on consignment, and artists make most of the money.

 

[cloudy]

buy music?

 

[jomar]

Thanks Wildcard, I'll check it out. I usually buy from a locally owned store. We use iTunes too. And I've used CDbaby before.

ETA: I've been trying to set a good example for the kids. And me. Trying to do the right thing by all.

 

[yui]

buy music?

<cough> Lime <cough> wire ... <going to hell in a handbasket>

 

[Darklove666]

If I want the actual cd, I usually get it from Best Buy.

Individual songs= I-tunes.

Occasionally, the local store will have a "gem" in the used section for the right price, but most of the other stuff there is way overpriced. (17.00 an album)

 

[cloudy]

<cough> Lime <cough> wire ... <going to hell in a handbasket>

I love me some yui.

 

[DeeZire]

<cough> Lime <cough> wire ... <going to hell in a handbasket>

What else do you steal? Cars? Furniture out of other people's houses? Clothes? Someone stole my jacket once. Was that you? Someone else stole my recording equipment. Was that you too?

Are you posting from jail? You should be.

 

[Bizkit_Writer]

I'm almost addicted to Itunes since I got my Ipod, I sometimes bought CD's at Target, Walmart, Best Buy and Fye when I was buying them.

 

[cloudy]

What else do you steal? Cars? Furniture out of other people's houses? Clothes? Someone stole my jacket once. Was that you? Someone else stole my recording equipment. Was that you too?

Are you posting from jail? You should be.

Hey now! That's my little sister...be nice.

 

[Liar]

What else do you steal?

Um, no.

Downloading pirated music isn't theft.

It's illegal (or at least sharing music for download is, laws vary on whether downloading from filesharers also is), and one may of course agrue that it's immoral, but it isn't theft. It's more in the lines of patent or copyright infrigement than anything else.

Also, downloading only hurts the artist and label financially if the downloader would have bought the music if the pirating option hadn't been available. The "we lose a dollar for every download" scarecrow that the industry try to pull is ridiculous.

Btw, legal downloads (iTunes, amazon et al) have skyrocketed lately. And even the big companies, your Sony and BMG are beginning to realize that it's not about pricing as muich as customer convenience, and thus letting go of the DRM on large parts of their catalogs.

Why do many people download from Limewire et al? Sure, many do it because they are cheap, or can't afford the prices. But many do it because they get files that they can use as they please (no drm that restrict what mp3 player, cd or hard drive you can put it on ) with a minimum of hassle. I've downloaded CDs that I own, but that have inept copy protection implelemted so that a) I can't rip it and put it on my MP3 player and b) I can't even play it in my computer.

 

[yui]

I love me some yui.

I do love you, Cloudy. http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/japan/84873.gif

What else do you steal? Cars? Furniture out of other people's houses? Clothes? Someone stole my jacket once. Was that you? Someone else stole my recording equipment. Was that you too?

Are you posting from jail? You should be.

Epp! No cars. No Furniture. No clothes. Sorry about the jacket. Nope, wasn't me. Sorry, too, about the recording equipment. Nope, the recording equipment wasn't me either.

Nope, not posting from jail. Hope the same is true for you. I don't think I belong in jail, though, I do appreciate your honesty of opinion on the subject.

Much luck,

Yui

 

[Liar]

(Oh, and... Hi, Yui!)

 

[yui]

Hey now! That's my little sister...be nice.

I'm not getting a lot of mileage on the cute thing with this topic, am I?

Um, no.

Downloading pirated music isn't theft.

It's illegal (or at least sharing music for download is, laws vary on whether downloading from filesharers also is), and one may of course agrue that it's immoral, but it isn't theft. It's more in the lines of patent or copyright infrigement than anything else.

Also, downloading only hurts the artist and label financially if the downloader would have bought the music if the pirating option hadn't been available. The "we lose a dollar for every download" scarecrow that the industry try to pull is ridiculous.

Btw, legal downloads (iTunes, amazon et al) have skyrocketed lately. And even the big companies, your Sony and BMG are beginning to realize that it's not about pricing as muich as customer convenience, and thus letting go of the DRM on large parts of their catalogs.

Why do many people download from Limewire et al? Sure, many do it because they are cheap, or can't afford the prices. But many do it because they get files that they can use as they please (no drm that restrict what mp3 player, cd or hard drive you can put it on ) with a minimum of hassle. I've downloaded CDs that I own, but that have inept copy protection implelemted so that a) I can't rip it and put it on my MP3 player and b) I can't even play it in my computer.

Have I mentioned lately that I love you? Where is Min? Liar and Min are a love-fest for me ....

 

[yui]

(Oh, and... Hi, Yui!)

Sorry, missed this! Was too busy building my "Liar Shrine to the Truth" .... (Hi, Liar! So good to see your ... Picasso (?) face!)

 

[Liar]

Sorry, missed this! Was too busy building my "Liar Shrine to the Truth" .... (Hi, Liar! So good to see your ... Picasso (?) face!)

It's my El Greco face.

Check out this thread for more.

 

[sophia jane]

Itunes most often unless I buy a cd and then I shop by price.

 

[starrkers]

I buy CDs wherever they happen to be cheapest.

I use Limewire for stuff I wouldn't buy, stuff that is no longer available (I have eclectic tastes) or that I have already bought in LP format (remember vinyl?) but currently can't play because I don't have a working turntable.

Sometimes I have been known to buy a CD on the strength stuff I've heard in pirated form.
So the artist didn't lose a sale because of downloading - they actually gained one.

 

[BradBigBrain]

I buy CDs wherever they happen to be cheapest.

I use Limewire for stuff I wouldn't buy, stuff that is no longer available (I have eclectic tastes) or that I have already bought in LP format (remember vinyl?) but currently can't play because I don't have a working turntable.

Sometimes I have been known to buy a CD on the strength stuff I've heard in pirated form.
So the artist didn't lose a sale because of downloading - they actually gained one.

iTunes when possible. Limewire when not.

 

[DeeZire]

So the artist didn't lose a sale because of downloading - they actually gained one.

The numbers don't lie. Ever since Napster, and then Limewire, CD sales have plummeted. Songwriters who used to make a living writing songs are now having to go out and get shitty day jobs. This is a subject that is near and dear to my heart, and if I have to look like an asshole defending the rights of copyright owners, so be it.

It's funny how Laurel and Manu jump on anyone who plagarizes a story, protecting the rights of the original author, but the people who support this site think nothing of stealing royalty money from the authors of their favorite songs. Can't anyone see the irony is this?

There may be legitimate uses for limewire, and if yui, or starkkers can honestly say they've paid for all the music they've downloaded (free) from Limewire, then I apologize for misjudging them. The majority of users of free download sites do steal music, and they're crippling the music industry. It's these users who I'm railing against.

If you were to poll limewire users, they would probably all say the same thing; that they're replacing vinyl, or checking out new artists so they can purchase their CD's. But the numbers are still down 30%, 40%. How do you explain it? (Please, don't try to explain it. Or do try to explain it. It doesn't matter. I'll just stay away. This is giving me a headache.)

 

[Liar]

If you were to poll limewire users, they would probably all say the same thing; that they're replacing vinyl, or checking out new artists so they can purchase their CD's. But the numbers are still down 30%, 40%. How do you explain it? (Please, don't try to explain it. Or do try to explain it. It doesn't matter. I'll just stay away. This is giving me a headache.)

I think I did. Inability to adapt to a quick change in consumer behaviour is the main culprit.

Along came Napster, and suddently, all the music of the world was at your fingertips, directly into your computer with the click of a button. Yes, it was cheap. That's one thing. But first and foremost, it was EASY. People who COULD and WOULD pay for their music stopped doing so because the record companies couldn't match the ease ans swiftness of P2P.

It took years before the industry reacted. And when they did it was too little too late and too goddamn wrong. Hiked record prices and slapped copy protection on both discs (so that they often couldn't play in the buyer's hardware) and downloaded files (so that they coudn't play in the buyer's mp3 player of choice).

Then, cue iTunes. Immediate success, because it's users were iPod devotees, so they didn't care that the songs were drm coded for iPod only (at first. I don't know how it works these days). It was easy to use, fast and had all the popular music on it. And yep, people payed. Imagine that.