What's wrong with asking women to be chivalrous?

[LJ_Reloaded]

Men, does that make you feel threatened?
Women, does that make you feel put upon?

 

[phrodeau]

Unless it's voluntary, it isn't chivalry.

You have never understood that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

When a woman beats me in arm wrestling she can be chivalrous. Until then it's my job to be Captain Bad Ass.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Men, does that make you feel threatened?
Women, does that make you feel put upon?

Threatened, no. Like it is a violation of the natural order ... yes.

 

[badbabysitter]

Men, does that make you feel threatened?
Women, does that make you feel put upon?

It's simple.. women aren't chivalrous to you, because you're a jerk

I wouldnt go out of my way to be nice to someone who has nothing but scorn for me

 

[neci]

common courtesy goes a long way.

 

[bronzeage]

I had a mother. I don't need another one.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

It's simple.. women aren't chivalrous to you, because you're a jerk

I wouldnt go out of my way to be nice to someone who has nothing but scorn for me

And you wonder why your other name here is Badbabyshitter?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Threatened, no. Like it is a violation of the natural order ... yes.

The natural order of things is for women to quit work and do the dishes.

What woman here is willing to do that?

 

[badbabysitter]

And you wonder why your other name here is Badbabyshitter?

thank you for continuing to prove my points

 

[sweepthefloor]

The natural order of things is for women to quit work and do the dishes.

What woman here is willing to do that?

I would quit my job, wash dishes and give blowjobs for shelter, but what man is willing to throw my paycheck in the trash? I haven't met one willing yet. The best I can hope for is to keep my job, and hand over the check.

 

[DarkMiracle18F]

I would be a stay at home mom if things worked out.

Chivalry really is nothing but shown respect in general ways - given this, it should go both ways in any relationship.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I would quit my job, wash dishes and give blowjobs for shelter, but what man is willing to throw my paycheck in the trash?

Men who live in the time and age where Chivalry originated and was widely practiced would burn you as a witch for bringing in a paycheck.

 

[oggbashan]

Men who live in the time and age where Chivalry originated and was widely practiced would burn you as a witch for bringing in a paycheck.

Wrong. Women defended the castles when their men were away fighting wars. Women could and did become craftsmen and traders. It was only false ideas of 'chivalry' in the late 18th and 19th centuries that changed what it was acceptable for a woman to do.

Of course, women were paid less for the same work and regarded as 'second-class' craft/tradesmen but they could do it. One of my female ancestors in England owned and ran an omnibus company, several were master printers, and almost none of them were recorded in censuses just as 'wife'. They all had a defined job as well as being a wife and mother. My eldest aunt, born in Queen Victoria's reign, outearned every one of her brothers despite being paid less for her job as an executive board member because she was a woman.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Actually I was just reaching for sweepthefloor's goat. The age of chivalry was harder on women than the modern less chivalrous age is.

If we're going to hold men to a centuries-old standard then why do women complain about being held to centuries-old standards? What's good for the goose is good for the gander - something that precious few people here seem to understand.

You cannot have a stable society where men are held to all these rules and women are held to none. Can anyone cite even ONE rule of lady-hood that women are held to anymore?

Wrong. Women defended the castles when their men were away fighting wars.

Ah, I see. Maybe that's what made Joan of Arc so famous. Oh wait she got burned as a witch, sillyme. (Actually that ain't funny. if you read the history behind that, even the run-up to that was pretty damned disgusting. Stupid king, whose life and political career she saved, threw her right under the bus. A more deserving chap for the guillotine would be hard to find.)