What's so wrong with gay sex? (Hint: Nothing)

[GentlemanJedi63]

I'm horny and need to vent:

Like so many other men here, I have always been straight, but began realizing and accepting I have strong homosexual desires. Perhaps not to the point of deciding I am gay, but I know I am not totally as straight as I publicly act and claim. From confusion, guilt, embarrassment, and shame evolved a man that can admit I am submissive, a bottom, I have a femme side that I wish to explore, I prefer older gay men, especially tops, I am more comfortable around older gay men, I want to suck cock more than I want to be sucked, and I want to get my ass fucked by an older gay top. Never did I ever think I would say those words, but they are the truth. So what is wrong with having perfectly natural sexual interests and desires? Because I desire them with another man? If sucking cock feels so good, why should I deny myself that experience? If women enjoy the feeling of having a nice hard cock inside of them, why shouldn't I enjoy the same feeling? Why does the prostate provide intense sexual pleasure to a man, but is located in a place that requires anal penetration?

I am married to a woman, our sex life and marriage are dead, and while divorce is coming, that doesn't mean I will immediately turn to men. I still have a strong preference for women, but I am also seeking the one kind of relationship that is forbidden, but necessary as men age. I would like to find one man with whom I can be sensitive around, vulnerable, but still be masculine. A close public friendship that can become, but not required to become, a much closer intimate and affectionate relationship. Truth is, I am open to the idea that my next partner may be another man, He may be a crossdresser or she may be a transgender woman, also. But, I am open to the possibility that my next intimate relationship may be with a non-traditional partner. Really, it all comes down to the person, not to the orientation, preferences, sexual practices only.

I have been unsuccessful in finding someone just to play with much less anything else. As usual, them men that I am the most interested in are too far away, or maybe they are married. While I am in no hurry, it can be pretty frustrating to have these desires, needs, and fantasies with nobody to share them with and perhaps explore them.

So I feel better now. Thanks for listening

 

[chapter6plan]

I agree with a lot of what you said. If my wife can suck a cock, why can't I? If I can eat pussy, why can't she? If I can fuck her ass, why can't you fuck mine? I'm looking for a hookup because of what's no longer happening in the bedroom. I'm not looking for a new soul mate or to shack up with a new lover ... just a regular opportunity to enjoy sex. And a man is new and exciting.
Finding a playmate is hard ... I've had a little luck on sniffies and double list and others speak well of silverdaddies.
The part I disagree with ... I'd like some dude half my age to play with ....

 

[GentlemanJedi63]

Well, I wouldn't turn down a hot 30 year old bottom, either! ;-)

 

[Kristal_1976]

Sorry about your marriage, and I'm glad you're able to share a little bit about it. As someone that didn't really come out of their sexual shell until much later in life I completely understand exploring and wanting something that has perhaps been missing in the past. I don't think there's absolutely anything wrong with it and I hope you lots of luck in finding it!

 

[Wag_that_tail86]

There is nothing wrong with accepting that you have non-straight sexual desires and you are open to new experiences. In fact, I would celebrate it...

 

[klippert]

I'm horny and need to vent should have been your tag
You said it yourself that you are in no hurry... If your marriage is ending and and its amicable, even split ?!!. then you have time. Before my first marriage ended I jumped back into M/M sex. That was risky for a multitude of reason. My attorney, 'she' even said... keep it in your pants. She can do what she wants... If you're compromised the court it already tilted her way" . If you can...after the dust clears... consider moving to a different city or town. Then join a few online sites and post what you have in your opening to this thread... with some slight changes. There are other things to consider... that, if you wish, please PM Me..

 

[easyoff]

The only thing wrong with it is, I don't get enough of it.

 

[ChasBozwell30]

There's nothing wrong with exploring yourself more as you get older. People change, and they learn more about themselves. I've always been bicurious, but now I'm incredibly keen to explore it, to taste more. The important thing is to be happy, you're not hurting anyone, enjoy your life. Try new things! x

 

[Britva415]

What's so wrong with gay sex?

Why suggest that there's anything wrong with it?

 

[hungryboytoy]

Nothing is wrong with gay sex. The only thing holding you up is your own brain.

Labels are for other people. Don't worry about yours, just enjoy yourself.

 

[dodgeboy2]

There is as much wrong with gay sex as there is with, transsexuals' sex, lesbian sex, bi sex, Hetro sex or any other sex out there and that is nothing as long as they are all willing partners, the only thing wrong is the is when you have dumb ass peoples believing it is wrong!

 

[TrailerHitch]

The trouble is people feel trapped and pressured by labels. I have had bi-sexual thoughts for many years but kept them to myself other than fantasizing. My wife and I began discussing an open marriage and in those discussions my bi-sexual curiosity came out. Surprisingly she supported my desire to explore this as I supported her desire to experiment with other lovers. I was shocked, to say the least, that she was supportive, but she was clear in her opinion. Don't worry about labels, let that guilt and repression go and have fun, just be safe.

 

[none2_none2]

I'm horny and need to vent:

Like so many other men here, I have always been straight, but began realizing and accepting I have strong homosexual desires. Perhaps not to the point of deciding I am gay, but I know I am not totally as straight as I publicly act and claim. From confusion, guilt, embarrassment, and shame evolved a man that can admit I am submissive, a bottom, I have a femme side that I wish to explore, I prefer older gay men, especially tops, I am more comfortable around older gay men, I want to suck cock more than I want to be sucked, and I want to get my ass fucked by an older gay top. Never did I ever think I would say those words, but they are the truth. So what is wrong with having perfectly natural sexual interests and desires? Because I desire them with another man? If sucking cock feels so good, why should I deny myself that experience? If women enjoy the feeling of having a nice hard cock inside of them, why shouldn't I enjoy the same feeling? Why does the prostate provide intense sexual pleasure to a man, but is located in a place that requires anal penetration?

I am married to a woman, our sex life and marriage are dead, and while divorce is coming, that doesn't mean I will immediately turn to men. I still have a strong preference for women, but I am also seeking the one kind of relationship that is forbidden, but necessary as men age. I would like to find one man with whom I can be sensitive around, vulnerable, but still be masculine. A close public friendship that can become, but not required to become, a much closer intimate and affectionate relationship. Truth is, I am open to the idea that my next partner may be another man, He may be a crossdresser or she may be a transgender woman, also. But, I am open to the possibility that my next intimate relationship may be with a non-traditional partner. Really, it all comes down to the person, not to the orientation, preferences, sexual practices only.

I have been unsuccessful in finding someone just to play with much less anything else. As usual, them men that I am the most interested in are too far away, or maybe they are married. While I am in no hurry, it can be pretty frustrating to have these desires, needs, and fantasies with nobody to share them with and perhaps explore them.

So I feel better now. Thanks for listening

From a cumulation of your posts, I get the sense of confusion -- masculine vs feminine, pussy vs cock, etc. Plus your unhappiness with your marriage just complicates trying to figure this stuff out...

I never got much out of counseling as I "think" things to the umpth degree, so counselling never seemed to expose me to a new way of interpreting what I feel. However, perhaps you might get something out of it. It is better to figure things out as to what you really want out of life.

I would add thar most on here don't talk about other males in their family. Sometimes male issues aren't just about same sex attraction, but unresolved things with other males in our lives. I don't think my dad gave me my sexual preferences, but the fact that I couldn't stand him did influence the fact that for most of my life I felt more kinship with older guys when it came for sex, but unlike you I was always a top. I was seeking out and older man as if on a quest for that mythical male womb thar I could be inside and get unconditional love from a man. Most of my experiences with men - namely my dad was a constant demand to earn even the tiniest of love or at least. Though I outstanding grades, I was the "retarded" one. Though I ran 47 miles in a 50 mile marathon, I was an embarrassment because at the awards banquet I ate my peas with a spoon. There was no pleasing that man. He died a long time ago. We made our peace, but in all honesty I loved what fatherhood was supposed to be about. I just didn't like the man he was. My partner is practically my age. (We are only about 3 years older than your 61.) So he isn't older enough to be a dad, nor really even an older brother (I have no brothers.) Yet he is everything my dad was not. I was checking my smart phone for space when I ran into a photo of him with his 3 grandbabies via his son. My man hates having his picture taken, yet he did that photo for them. He has the biggest heart I know regardless of gender. I had my own stereotypes about genders, and they even can get care deeply. In 2018, I was in the hospital for 5 weeks. I came close to death with West Nile. When I finally came out of sedation, there was my masculine partner crying over ME. I didn't think a man was capable of such depth of feeling for another man. He was. I don't deserve this man, but he stays with me. There isn't a day that I don't miss being inside this mainly man, but cannot because of my ED. His enduring love makes the ED tolerable.

You asked "what's so wrong with gay sex". I would say that any kind of sex with another human group that is always void of any feeling (indifference) is nothing short of a poison of the soul. That isn't to say that every positive sexual encounter requires putting a ring on the other person's finger and thinking only of the American flag, apple pie, the Virgin Mary, and motherhood during the sex. However, saying there is zero emotion because that is proof that is someone is still str8 is complete bull. There are 100% gay identifying men who only seek out anonymous, one night stand m2m counters. That doesn't make them str8 either, and they would never make such a silly claim.

I'm not a fan of labels either. However, most that don't like labels simply want to cling to the straight label to avoid being given a gay or bi label. Why have any labels at all if you don't believe in labels?

 

[wishywashy1956]

I'm horny and need to vent:

Like so many other men here, I have always been straight, but began realizing and accepting I have strong homosexual desires. Perhaps not to the point of deciding I am gay, but I know I am not totally as straight as I publicly act and claim. From confusion, guilt, embarrassment, and shame evolved a man that can admit I am submissive, a bottom, I have a femme side that I wish to explore, I prefer older gay men, especially tops, I am more comfortable around older gay men, I want to suck cock more than I want to be sucked, and I want to get my ass fucked by an older gay top. Never did I ever think I would say those words, but they are the truth. So what is wrong with having perfectly natural sexual interests and desires? Because I desire them with another man? If sucking cock feels so good, why should I deny myself that experience? If women enjoy the feeling of having a nice hard cock inside of them, why shouldn't I enjoy the same feeling? Why does the prostate provide intense sexual pleasure to a man, but is located in a place that requires anal penetration?

I am married to a woman, our sex life and marriage are dead, and while divorce is coming, that doesn't mean I will immediately turn to men. I still have a strong preference for women, but I am also seeking the one kind of relationship that is forbidden, but necessary as men age. I would like to find one man with whom I can be sensitive around, vulnerable, but still be masculine. A close public friendship that can become, but not required to become, a much closer intimate and affectionate relationship. Truth is, I am open to the idea that my next partner may be another man, He may be a crossdresser or she may be a transgender woman, also. But, I am open to the possibility that my next intimate relationship may be with a non-traditional partner. Really, it all comes down to the person, not to the orientation, preferences, sexual practices only.

I have been unsuccessful in finding someone just to play with much less anything else. As usual, them men that I am the most interested in are too far away, or maybe they are married. While I am in no hurry, it can be pretty frustrating to have these desires, needs, and fantasies with nobody to share them with and perhaps explore them.

So I feel better now. Thanks for listening

Wow, that was well said, and I'm in the same position as you are in at the moment. The time will arrive soon enough for both of us, I hope. If you care to carry on with the subject or anything else, give me a shout, and I'll get back with you as soon as I can TY

 

[GentlemanJedi63]

Good Sunday afternoon to all who replied to my thread. Thank you!!! Many of you articulated my biggest frustration, which is labeling others and ourselves. Maybe I'm curious, bisexual, or gay. Am I curious straight man? Am I bisexual? Am I really gay? If I get naked with another man, and someone walks in, what is going to make me identifiable? I mean, if another man has his dick in my mouth, are people going to say I am just curious, but not gay? Or will they say I must be gay? It can make your head spin. So, all I am is just a normal human being with normal sexual desires, interests, preferences, and fantasies. If I get to experience the pleasures of gay sex, and I come to prefer it over straight sex, then how is that different than saying I prefer straight sex over gay sex? It's just a preference. It's our society that makes it into something evil, perverse, or wrong.

 

[chapter6plan]

Good Sunday afternoon to all who replied to my thread. Thank you!!! Many of you articulated my biggest frustration, which is labeling others and ourselves. Maybe I'm curious, bisexual, or gay. Am I curious straight man? Am I bisexual? Am I really gay? If I get naked with another man, and someone walks in, what is going to make me identifiable? I mean, if another man has his dick in my mouth, are people going to say I am just curious, but not gay? Or will they say I must be gay? It can make your head spin. So, all I am is just a normal human being with normal sexual desires, interests, preferences, and fantasies. If I get to experience the pleasures of gay sex, and I come to prefer it over straight sex, then how is that different than saying I prefer straight sex over gay sex? It's just a preference. It's our society that makes it into something evil, perverse, or wrong.

If another man has his dick in your mouth and any of us lit guys walk in, we're going to call you damn lucky.

 

[Escierto]

Its not gay if one of you thinks your a woman..wink

That was my Get Out of Gay free card until I decided that I don't give a fuck. Call me a fag, a homo, a cocksucking queer. I don't care.

 

[GentlemanJedi63]

If another man has his dick in your mouth and any of us lit guys walk in, we're going to call you damn lucky.

LOL!! Very true!!

 

[GentlemanJedi63]

That was my Get Out of Gay free card until I decided that I don't give a fuck. Call me a fag, a homo, a cocksucking queer. I don't care.

My Get Out of Gay Free card was my idea that I would have to be drunk to engage in gay sex. I finally decided I wanted to experience and feel everything, and not find an excuse to deny the pleasure. Frankly, when I have chatted with other men, it turns me on when they call me a faggot,especially when it's a gay man calling me that. It's as if they are saying that they may be gay, but I am the example of total homosexuality.

 

[load69]

If another man has his dick in your mouth and any of us lit guys walk in, we're going to call you damn lucky.

And we’re going to be very jealous

 

[ChrissyCD64]

Who said there was anything wrong with gay sex?

 

[Katch123]

Dick, Pussy, or Ass it doesn't matter . Sex is just giving or receiving pleasure period.

 

[J1biboi]

Who said there was anything wrong with gay sex?

A lot of people, but fuck them!!

 

[Escierto]

I was hesitant about commenting, due to my lack of 'qualifications' on the matter, as a straight (heterosexual) man. It has become abundantly clear that there are a LOT of married men on this site, who are unsure of their sexuality, preferences, and "labels".
To begin with, if any adult (male or female) wants to have consensual sex with another adult (male or female), and it will affect only the 2 of you - go for it.
However, I may be 'old-school' when it comes to my opinion(s), but if you're in a marriage, or otherwise committed relationship, having sex with an outsider, whether they are same/opposite gender, is cheating, and you forfeit some/all of your personal integrity.
If you're a married guy, and want to have sex with another woman, or guy, without your wife's knowledge or permission, then you have to take into account the effect it will have on your self, and spouse. Keeping it a secret doesn't make it 'ok'. Guilt (and betrayal) is a bitch, and you can't "un-do" it. . . . . . Ever.
Most of the time, your 'secret' will be discovered, and that's when the betrayal, heartbreak, devastation, mistrust, shame, etc., begins.
While I completely empathize / sympathize with married folks whose marriage has become sexless, for whatever reason(s), "stepping out" of that agreement, to satisfy yourself, isn't the greatest reason to do so. And to do it, anyway, will surely damage the "significant" other.
Look at it this way . . . . . what if - in your sexless marriage - YOUR SPOUSE was the one to do the "stepping out" . . . . How would YOU feel, if/when you found out?
Whether you're bi-curious, bisexual, gay..... whatever . . . . consider the pain your "pleasure" may cause.
Think with the 'head' on your shoulders, before you act, with the 'head' in your pants....

I think you vastly underestimate how many people in sexless marriages would not care at all if their spouses got sex somewhere else. At some point the spouses are just friends or roommates if nothing else.

 

[Escierto]

I thought that is what DIVORCE is for ?!

Why this all or nothing POV? Many couples stay together for financial or family reasons even though they are just friends. You seem to have this idea that you think everyone should conform to.