what would you do?

Tyr056

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this could probably be used for a story idea, weather incest or not would depend on your own answer. this is a real problem that a friend of mine had to deal with several years ago.

first, the set up...

a young man and his father live together in a modestly sized city. the mother had left some years earlier after a nasty divorce and,due to the circumstances of the divorce (sorry, he never told me anything about it other than it was really ugly), the son chose to stay with his father to end the custody battle. they had gotten along well before the divorce, but in the few years that followed, their relationship grew quite strong.

since the son was still in school when his mother left, the father had to work even harder to keep their house and support his son's education, at the expense of his own love life. even though things were difficult, the father never blamed his son for the hardship and went even further by helping his son whenever it was needed. the son knew how hard it was on his father and deeply respected him for everything he did.

during the son's senior year things got better. the father got a promotion and sizable raise which, along with the son's part time job, allowed them both to relax a bit and enjoy some extra free time. the sons spent his time with his girlfriend, while the father was finally able to re-enter a decent social life.

as a bit of time past, the son grew increasingly more smitten with his girlfriend, and the father was able to find a girlfriend of his own. by a bit of coincidence, the son never mentioned his girlfriend to his father, fearing he would somehow be insulted or feel depressed over his lack of a love life, and the father did not tell the son of his girlfriend, not wanting his son to get any possible false hopes of getting a new mother. eventually both relationships matured and both men began having thoughts of a future with their respective girlfriends.

one night over dinner the subject of girlfriends was brought up and they were both surprised to learn of the others good fortune. they decided that it would be fun to have a double date to meet each others girl. after asking their respective girlfriends if they would like to double date, the two men decided it would be best for everyone to meet at their home before going out. the son was first to bring his girl home to meet his father, and as the father's date was yet to arrive, they sat and chatted while they waited.

finally the father's date arrived and rang the doorbell. as the father went to answer the door, the son and his girlfriend stood together, waiting to be introduced. as the father opened the door and invited his date in, a single word, spoken by the son's girlfriend, brings us to the crux of this dilemma...

"mom!?!"

now, regardless of what position you put yourself in- be it the father, son, mother, or daughter- the question remains the same.

what would you do?:eek:
 
I don't really see how it could possibly be incest - everyone seems to be straight and none of the males are related to any of the females. Amusing coincidence though.
 
if the father marries the mother, then the son and daughter become step sibling and can no longer - legally - continue their relationship. if the two children get married then the father and mother become step in-laws, and the same holds true for them. (seems silly to me really. as was stated, there are no blood relations so the only thing that prevents them both from having a loving relationship is a scrap of paper with some scribbles on it that someone deemed fit to call a law.:rolleyes:)

i mentioned incest because, if you were to write a story based on it, weather it became incest or not would depend on your answer.

to anyone who was wondering, my friend "bowed out" and chose to end the relationship with his girlfriend. after his dad doing so much for him, he just couldn't deny his dad a chance to be happy. he and his former girlfriend settled into being good friends and step siblings and he eventually met, fell in love with, and married another girl. but while he gives his wife as much love and affection as he can, he still laments whats he lost to this day. (not publicly of course)

its sad really. on the rare times when he will talk about it, you can tell where his heart still lies.:(
 
Hmm I didn't think that was legally how it worked, or perhaps it's different in different places, but I believe one does not become legally the parent of a spouse's child from a former marriage unless there is an adoption. And certainly it's possible for an older teen to become legally emancipated from their parent or for the parent to disinherit the child, which ought to cancel whatever step relation there was.
 
Wow this one's tough. Technically there is no blood relation and the chances of this situation happening are pretty slim. I think if all 4 are reasonably mature, sit down and discuss it. I think if the son is close to 18 then I don't think the relation between the mother and daughter should really matter. The mother wouldn't really be a "step mom" to the son as he's already grown and moving into the adulthood of his life. He doesn't NEED a mom at this point to raise him. I think they should follow their hearts and go for it. Pursue the relationships....
 
Hmm I didn't think that was legally how it worked, or perhaps it's different in different places, ...
It does vary from country to country. Different religions also differ, but in the UK for civil marriage or partnership (my notes in italics):

Absolute prohibitions

1 (1) Two people are within prohibited degrees of relationship if one falls within the list below in relation to the other.
Adoptive child, Adoptive parent, Child, Former adoptive child, Former adoptive parent, Grandparent, Grandchild, Parent, Parent's sibling, Sibling, Sibling's child.
(2) In the list "sibling" means a brother, sister, half-brother or half-sister. No mention of step-children or step-siblings.

Qualified prohibitions

2 (1) Two people are within prohibited degrees of relationship if one of them falls within the list below in relation to the other, unless-
(a) both of them have reached 21 at the time when they register as civil partners of each other, and (b) the younger has not at any time before reaching 18 been a child of the family in relation to the other.

Child of former civil partner, Child of former spouse, Former civil partner of grandparent, Former civil partner of parent, Former spouse of grandparent, Former spouse of parent, Grandchild of former civil partner, Grandchild of former spouse

(2) "Child of the family", in relation to another person, means a person who-
(a) has lived in the same household as that other person, and
(b) has been treated by that other person as a child of his family. So step-children (but not step-siblings) may be included, depending on the domiciliary status.

3 Two people are within prohibited degrees of relationship if one falls within column 1 of the table below in relation to the other, unless-
(a) both of them have reached 21 at the time when they register as civil partners of each other or enter a civil marriage, and
(b) the persons who fall within column 2 are dead.

Relationship => Relevant deaths

Former civil partner of child => The child or The child's other parent
Former spouse of child => The child or The child's other parent
Parent of former civil partner => The former civil partner or The former civil partner's other parent
Parent of former spouse => The former spouse or The former spouse's other parent
 
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