I mean, spaceship vs. spaceship. Nothing the Space Force now has is intended for that kind of fight -- apparently, the weaponry has not yet been invented.
What would real-life space combat be like?
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I watch movies... they are the forerunners of what is to come. I know about Area 51. Its counterpart, Area 52, is still way Top Secret Max, located in Greenland. That's where the aliens are helping to build up Space Force in return for ocean water. I saw the movies of that too. When they complete the prototypes, the grey aliens are permitted to suck up one-third of the oceans in a force field and whip it off to Mars to revive the planet like Superman promised Lois Lane they would.
Superman would do it himself, but he is under contract with Disney for some new shows, and they won't release him from the contract. It's lined with kryptonite and tamper-proof.
Are you still with me? I could go on.... about silliness like this thread that has nothing to do with politics if you want.
Superman would do it himself, but he is under contract with Disney for some new shows, and they won't release him from the contract. It's lined with kryptonite and tamper-proof.
Are you still with me? I could go on.... about silliness like this thread that has nothing to do with politics if you want.
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Here is a really really good lecture on the subject. It's an hour and a half but really informative
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The only thing that has always bugged me about cinema and sitcom space wars were the explosions.
If oxygen is needed, for combustion, and there's only a limited amount onboard a craft that explodes, there shouldn't really be a large or prolonged fire during structural failure
If oxygen is needed, for combustion, and there's only a limited amount onboard a craft that explodes, there shouldn't really be a large or prolonged fire during structural failure
Also, any explosion that does happen shouldn't make any noise.
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Oh god, my pet peeve is the unrealism of space battles in the few sci-fi movies that have them.
I watched one old Sci-Fi movie where the sound effects were all from submarine warfare and himself was so bugged with me because I was rolling around laughing and critiquing the sound effects all the way thru up until he gagged me. LOL
The other thing is aerodynamics. In space. No no no no.....
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That is not true.
Here's what the Space Force has -- nothing at all in the nature of ship-to-ship weaponry.
David Weber's Honorverse is military SF for engineers -- when Weber describes a space battle, he tells you exactly how many missiles each side launches at what velocities, how many are destroyed by point defenses, how many get through and what damage they do.
Unfortunately, it's all based on black-box technologies that might never be possible.
Unfortunately, it's all based on black-box technologies that might never be possible.
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So the Death Star wouldn’t have gone all Saturn Ring explosion?
Thanks….you just ruined my childhood…
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So, tell us what the X37B was doing in space for 908 days a while back? When you find out get back to me.
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While he’s at it, he can explain what the lights people are seeing between about 280-320 degrees in the night sky. I ain’t talking bout the “drones” or Newark’s landing conga line either….if you don’t know, the Utoob has plenty of vids…
Aerobraking. Nothing combat-related.
There, there. Go watch the Ghostbusters remake and unwind!So the Death Star wouldn’t have gone all Saturn Ring explosion?
Thanks….you just ruined my childhood…
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Until gravitational propulsion is developed fighter to fighter combat is unrealistic. Our aircraft vectoring is only possible due to an atmosphere and jet propulsion. Battle between spacecraft would probably be high energy weapons on a straight line. imho
Lasers? Has anyone yet actually figured out a way to use lasers as weapons? That's such a standard SF cliche -- but here we are in 2024, and every army in the world is still relying on chemical-powered slug-throwers.
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Railguns would seem to be feasible in space.
And the mirrors focusing sunlight in Ringo's Troy Rising. But those are more mining and static defence.
What off Earth are you talking about?
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The fact is you don't know. All you do is make flat statements without any evidence.
What off Earth are you talking about?
Boeing X-37:
The Boeing X-37, also known as the Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV), is a reusable robotic spacecraft. It is boosted into space by a launch vehicle, then re-enters Earth's atmosphere and lands as a spaceplane. The X-37 is operated by the Department of the Air Force Rapid Capabilities Office, in collaboration with United States Space Force,[1] for orbital spaceflight missions intended to demonstrate reusable space technologies. It is a 120-percent-scaled derivative of the earlier Boeing X-40. The X-37 began as a NASA project in 1999, before being transferred to the United States Department of Defense in 2004. Until 2019, the program was managed by Air Force Space Command.[2]
An X-37 first flew during a drop test in 2006; its first orbital mission was launched in April 2010 on an Atlas V rocket, and returned to Earth in December 2010. Subsequent flights gradually extended the mission duration, reaching 780 days in orbit for the fifth mission, the first to launch on a Falcon 9 rocket. The sixth mission launched on an Atlas V on 17 May 2020 and concluded on 12 November 2022, reaching a total of 908 days in orbit.[3] The seventh mission launched on 28 December 2023 on a Falcon Heavy rocket, entering a highly elliptical high Earth orbit.[4][5]
The Boeing X-37, also known as the Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV), is a reusable robotic spacecraft. It is boosted into space by a launch vehicle, then re-enters Earth's atmosphere and lands as a spaceplane. The X-37 is operated by the Department of the Air Force Rapid Capabilities Office, in collaboration with United States Space Force,[1] for orbital spaceflight missions intended to demonstrate reusable space technologies. It is a 120-percent-scaled derivative of the earlier Boeing X-40. The X-37 began as a NASA project in 1999, before being transferred to the United States Department of Defense in 2004. Until 2019, the program was managed by Air Force Space Command.[2]
An X-37 first flew during a drop test in 2006; its first orbital mission was launched in April 2010 on an Atlas V rocket, and returned to Earth in December 2010. Subsequent flights gradually extended the mission duration, reaching 780 days in orbit for the fifth mission, the first to launch on a Falcon 9 rocket. The sixth mission launched on an Atlas V on 17 May 2020 and concluded on 12 November 2022, reaching a total of 908 days in orbit.[3] The seventh mission launched on 28 December 2023 on a Falcon Heavy rocket, entering a highly elliptical high Earth orbit.[4][5]
