What would life be in a Matriarchal Society?

[Frimost]

What would life be like in a Matriarchal Society?

There was a time long, long ago where there were many women warriors and precedents and standards in civilization were to early to have become tradition. In these early halcyon days, there were more male warriors then women, yes, but there were still enough female fighters (more than now) that given other circumstances who knows how civilization might have turned out given other variables? In these days when mores and cultural expectations were still fluid could have things turned out much differently regarding gender roles? What if for example the Amazons had been stronger, with greater numbers and better leadership than what they apparently had at the time? What if they had conquered the early Greeks and other early Eurasian nations? How would are society be today if the tables were turned and had a history and tradition of female warriors and leadership? Would today the MALE body be the common standard of beauty with provocative young men in magazines, ads, and advertisements? Would most porn be catered to the tastes of women, would the smut be 90% male in nature, would there be dozens of magazines of naked men posing submissively in the pages within? What do you think it would be like? With thousands of years of different selective breeding than what we have had would the very bodies of men and women be different from what they are today? Would there be lad's nights at the bar where I could get in for free? Would a handsome man be able to get into parties with no charge and women wanting to enter in a similar fashion be required to be in the company of good-looking men? Would women be the ones aggressively picking up men at the bars, restaurants, and pubs around town on Friday nights?

What do you think?

 

[deliciously_naughty]

birth control would be free and chocolate would be declared the national food

 

[Frimost]

well then...

So if I wanted to rule the world then all I would have to do is take over the Ivory Coast where 90% of the worlds coco (used to make chocolate) is produced? Then I could just site back on my giant pile of chocolate and only dole it out to my followers while the rest of the women who refuse to follow me live life sans chocolate and fudge!

 

[deliciously_naughty]

no...free daycare would have to be involved as well...and a living wage for stay at home moms (which would be a revered and respected position). Teachers would make the salaries of ceos (and would be among the most respected people in society) too.

It's not so easy that all you would have to do is control our chocolate supply.

 

[Sillyman]

I think a truly matriarchal society would be less violent, and would have a greater focus towards social works. I think we would also see more iniatives to help children.

 

[Guest]

A true matriarchy would be as oppressive and unpleasant as a patriarchy.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

A true matriarchy would be as oppressive and unpleasant as a patriarchy.

you just say that b/c you don't want to lose the power you hold as a member of the dominant group

 

[Frimost]

Probably....But how much so..afterall it would be a society that had evolved from the genes and practices of Amazons and other female warriors.

Perhaps, in that case, it would be the men who would be culturally expected to stay home and care for the kids?

Would prostitution by a primarily female driven market with the typical "John" being a "Jane"? Would there be much more cases of women raping men then the occasional isolated incidents that occur today?

 

[Frimost]

I think Unregistered Q is a female unless I am mistaken?

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Probably....But how much so..afterall it would be a society that had evolved from the genes and practices of Amazons and other female warriors.

Perhaps, in that case, it would be the men who would be culturally expected to stay home and care for the kids?

Would prostitution by a primarily female driven market with the typical "John" being a "Jane"? Would there be much more cases of women raping men then the occasional isolated incidents that occur today?

I would expect that women would still end up the primary caregivers when they wanted to...or at least at first. If, for example, the woman wanted to breastfeed, or there was a living wage paid for staying home and helping your child to grow and learn I might even consider doing it.

Prostitution? I think it would be a very different picture...but it's fuzzy in my head as to what it would look like.....

 

[Sillyman]

Would prostitution by a primarily female driven market with the typical "John" being a "Jane"? Would there be much more cases of women raping men then the occasional isolated incidents that occur today?

I think that wouldn't require a merely social change but a biological one as well. Regardless of the society, a woman will bear the baby, thus leaving the woman to deal with the consequences of sex. Therefore, a woman would still need to be selective who she sleeps with, although in the social order you described, a man's positive traits would be based more heavily on what he could bring to the home than on his income potential. Looks would probably be a lot higher than brains on the chart as well.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

although in the social order you described, a man's positive traits would be based more heavily on what he could bring to the home than on his income potential. Looks would probably be a lot higher than brains on the chart as well.

I would totally disagree with your last comment. Although it is desirable to have an attractive mate...I am much more concerned with IQ being passed onto the next generation. You're talking about a male dominated society again...looks over brains. In a female dominated society brains would be more important. The only reason women are so looks obsessed is that our society has taught us to be that way.

 

[Guest]

you just say that b/c you don't want to lose the power you hold as a member of the dominant group

Ummm.. power. Sounds good. I like that idea.

 

[Frimost]

I am much more concerned with IQ being passed onto the next generation.

Yeah, BUUUUT is the desire you have to pass on intelligence bore subconsciously from the fact that our very society does expect the man to be the primary "bread-earner" of the house to be successful in life and desirable to other women (and thus give you grandchildren)?

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Yeah, BUUUUT is the desire you have to pass on intelligence bore subconsciously from the fact that are very society Does expect the man to be the primary break-earner to be successful in life and desirable to other women (and thus give you grandchildren)?

try that again in english please...

 

[Frimost]

That was English, get a thesaurus if you need one.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

That was English, get a thesaurus if you need one.

now that you edited it and fixed your spelling mistakes

 

[deliciously_naughty]

your sentence structure still sucks. But I digress....

My desire to pass on intelligence to the next generation stems from two factors, neither of which you stated. They are as follows:
1. So that the following generation can be wise enough to correct mistakes of the past.

2. So that the following generation can continue to innovate and move forwards.

It has nothing to do with a man or a woman specifically bringing home income or my desire for grandkids. Considering I don't want children yet, I certainly don't desire grandchildren. (the last comment was a joke for the humor-impaired)

 

[Sillyman]

I would totally disagree with your last comment. Although it is desirable to have an attractive mate...I am much more concerned with IQ being passed onto the next generation. You're talking about a male dominated society again...looks over brains. In a female dominated society brains would be more important. The only reason women are so looks obsessed is that our society has taught us to be that way.

In a situation where one person stays at home to do cooking and housework, intelligence is a liability. Intelligence creates a more aggressive individual who is more likely to question your authority. You would want your husband to be a good obedient dumb shit. If they know you are intellectually superior to them, or at least they believe that, than they will submit to your judgement without questioning.

I do think women would be obsessed with looks, but they would be obsessed the same way men are in our society, with how the opposite gender looks, and that a cute dumb guy would be a sign of power.

To say that a man doesn't want smart children would be both sexist and incorrect. However, men do not choose women iniatially on the basis of intelligence, even though women have greater impact on the intelligence of the child. Intelligence traits are carried on the X chromosome.

 

[Frimost]

I disagree, not with you personally but with women not being visual stimulated like men. We men may be MORE visually attuned to physical features than women may, but its like the pot and the teakettle, women still are highly visual because we as humans and as predators prize our sense of vision. Therefore, in a society where women are dominant and make the choices men would be selected much more for physical characteristics then there are today because women would have no shame for doing so and no remorse or compunction to be shallow and pick men based on purely physical attraction. I bet there would be allot more "boy-toys" around in a matriarchy then there is now.

 

[HighSchoolJock]

you mean we dont allready you fuck heads dont know jack BABY BIOTCHES RULE THE EARTH

 

[Pyper]

Probably....But how much so..afterall it would be a society that had evolved from the genes and practices of Amazons and other female warriors.

The Amazons were an imagined society that fought the Greeks in Greek mythology...much like the Centaurs. They never existed. There have been only a very few (though much publicized) archaeological discoveries of woman warriors, and never an entire society full of them.

Male dominance over women is thought to have begun with the technological advance of agriculture approximately 9000 years ago. Before, as hunter-gatherers, women were responsible for two thirds of the food obtained for the tribe, as they were the gatherers. With the advent of agriculture, men as the physically stronger members of the tribe began to gain control of the food source, and thus control of society as a whole.

Women, however, as controllers of the food source in hunter-gatherer times were not superior to men, and did not control society.

 

[Frimost]

In a situation where one person stays at home to do cooking and housework, intelligence is a liability. Intelligence creates a more aggressive individual who is more likely to question your authority. You would want your husband to be a good obedient dumb shit. If they know you are intellectually superior to them, or at least they believe that, than they will submit to your judgement without questioning.

Well I want an intelligent woman, but maybe its just because I'm stupid! lol

 

[deliciously_naughty]

I want an intelligent spouse as well...if for no other reason than I would be irritated as hell at a boytoy within days.

 

[Frimost]

The Amazons were an imagined society that fought the Greeks in Greek mythology...

Yeah, suuure, just like the city of Troy was a mythological city of legend that didn't exist until some crazy maverick dug it up and low and behold...it's REAL!