What will become of Kerry? (as if anyone really cares)

[sweetnpetite]

Kerry to continue from Senate
For his part, Kerry on Wednesday vowed to take his beliefs back to the U.S. Senate, where he has served since 1984 and has another four years left of his current term.

“In the years ahead, I am going to fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts,” he said in his concession speech.

Kerry told supporters in an emotional campaign farewell in Boston that “we cannot win this election.”

“In America, it is vital that every vote count ... but the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal fight,” Kerry said, referring to an earlier option of contesting the race in Ohio and the fact that Bush was 3 million votes ahead in the popular vote.

“I would not give up this fight if there was a chance that we would prevail,” he said, but “there won’t be enough outstanding votes for us to win Ohio, and therefore we cannot win this election.”

Speaking at Faneuil Hall in Boston, where he launched his quest for the White House more than a year ago, Kerry said he had telephoned Bush to congratulate him on his victory.

Yet Kerry’s public remarks contained an element of challenge to the president.

“America is in need of unity and longing for a larger measure of compassion,” he said. “I hope President Bush will advance those values in the coming years.”

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6405260/?GT1=5809

 

[fogbank]

I definitely feel badly for Kerry. Everything I had seen of him spoke of integrity, courage and wisdom. Here's hoping he's able to keep his enthusiasm for his duties as a senator after this.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

May the spineless bastard crawl back into the DNC ranks where he may parrot the party surrender again and again from the minority. Fucking wanker.

 

[Couture]

John Kerry will divorce Teresa then seek a civil union with Dick Cheney.

John Edwards will go to Hollywood where he will star in the remake of Three's Company.

Dick Cheney will resign as Vice-President and write a tell-all book about how he pulled the strings for President Bush. New members of Bush administration will denouce Cheney as evil and a homo.

Rumsfield privatizes the army and makes billions in its IPO.

 

[Guest]

 

[R. Richard]

I am not really a political guy, however the following really pisses me off!

For his part, Kerry on Wednesday vowed to take his beliefs back to the U.S. Senate, where he has served since 1984 and has another four years left of his current term.
[Kerry has spent the last year running for President and damn near nothing else. He has missed almost every Senate vote for the past year. How does missing a year of votes serve the people of Massachusetts or anywhere else for that matter?]

“In the years ahead, I am going to fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts,” he said in his concession speech.
[[Does 'fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts' mean he is going to miss another year of Senate votes? Or does he mean he will give back the pay and pension he has not earned over the past year?]

Kerry does not work for me, but I am one of the people paying his salary for no work. As far as I am concerned, Kerry is a lazy, shiftless, dishonest bum! My opinion is in no way connected with his politics or party affiliation, it is based upon his dishonesty.

JMHO.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Why just the people of MA, why not the 49% of America that voted for him?

Because only 49% of America voted for him and he's just a little bitter.

 

[McKenna]

The Kerry's have a vacation home here in Ketchum, Idaho. Maybe he'll come try and make my state a blue state?

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

See now, this is EXACTLY how I learned to despise football fans.

Year after year, every winter, the football fan of every team of also-rans got a free pass to insult the Buffalo team for being the second-best team in the whole country.

 

[Couture]

I am not really a political guy, however the following really pisses me off!

Kerry has spent the last year running for President and damn near nothing else. He has missed almost every Senate vote for the past year. How does missing a year of votes serve the people of Massachusetts or anywhere else for that matter

....Kerry does not work for me, but I am one of the people paying his salary for no work. As far as I am concerned, Kerry is a lazy, shiftless, dishonest bum! My opinion is in no way connected with his politics or party affiliation, it is based upon his dishonesty.

JMHO.

Wait to you get the bill from George. Not only did you pay his salary while he was campaigning, you paid him to lose 6 trillion dollars over a period of 4 years.

You fucking tool.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Originally posted by R. Richard
I am not really a political guy, however the following really pisses me off!

For his part, Kerry on Wednesday vowed to take his beliefs back to the U.S. Senate, where he has served since 1984 and has another four years left of his current term.
[Kerry has spent the last year running for President and damn near nothing else. He has missed almost every Senate vote for the past year. How does missing a year of votes serve the people of Massachusetts or anywhere else for that matter?]

“In the years ahead, I am going to fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts,” he said in his concession speech.
[[Does 'fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts' mean he is going to miss another year of Senate votes? Or does he mean he will give back the pay and pension he has not earned over the past year?]

Kerry does not work for me, but I am one of the people paying his salary for no work. As far as I am concerned, Kerry is a lazy, shiftless, dishonest bum! My opinion is in no way connected with his politics or party affiliation, it is based upon his dishonesty.

JMHO.

Yeah, I more or less would have preferred it if he'd resigned the Senate when he decided to run for President.

 

[LordMonsterous]

I think the answer is simple.

Kerry who?

 

[Couture]

I wish the Bush resigned as governor of Texas when he ran against Gore. Yes, and I also wish that McCain resigned from the Senate for his presidential bid. Oh and that Reagan guy.

While we are on the subject of wishes, I wish that republicans would grow a brain instead of believing everything they hear Rush say.

 

[hunting_tiger]

I am not really a political guy, however the following really pisses me off!

For his part, Kerry on Wednesday vowed to take his beliefs back to the U.S. Senate, where he has served since 1984 and has another four years left of his current term.
[Kerry has spent the last year running for President and damn near nothing else. He has missed almost every Senate vote for the past year. How does missing a year of votes serve the people of Massachusetts or anywhere else for that matter?]

“In the years ahead, I am going to fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts,” he said in his concession speech.
[[Does 'fight on for the principles and people of Massachusetts' mean he is going to miss another year of Senate votes? Or does he mean he will give back the pay and pension he has not earned over the past year?]

Kerry does not work for me, but I am one of the people paying his salary for no work. As far as I am concerned, Kerry is a lazy, shiftless, dishonest bum! My opinion is in no way connected with his politics or party affiliation, it is based upon his dishonesty.

JMHO.

Lets see if I got this right .. GWB has spent the last year trying to be reelected.

Is that the reason why some people say that Cheney runs USA ?

 

[Guest]

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

I heard someone say, last night "What's Kerry gonna do now? I mean, this guy lost the election for the Presidency to Bush!" (emphasizing the "Bush" part)

I liked that.

 

[Pure]

I agree with couture.

Kerry will likely fade, though the final campaign was not badly conducted.

He 'falls between two stools' as the saying goes. He's neither right or populist democrat (like Clinton), nor a left one (like Kennedy).

He's not been that good on the war. Assuming the war bogging down continues, Kerry does not have a very good position, since it's mainly been to call for more troops. As to the 'four year' stay proposed by Kerry; maybe no distinction. I don't put that past Bush.

Put in a token figure, retinue, simulacrum of parliament, lotsa guards (like Karzai) and say 'we won; we're leaving.'

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I'm just curious: with all the dissatisfaction everyone seems to feel for Kerry, who would you have run in his place? Who do you think would have been more electable?

---dr.M.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Dean.

I still would have preferred Dean.

 

[shereads]

Lets see if I got this right .. GWB has spent the last year trying to be reelected.

Is that the reason why some people say that Cheney runs USA ?

That's different, HT. The president never spent much time at work to begin with.

 

[Pure]

mab, i tend to think Clark-- with machinery and brains behind him-- might have been more electable.

IOW a southerner, protestant, of stellar military record.

 

[Guest]

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I'm just curious: with all the dissatisfaction everyone seems to feel for Kerry, who would you have run in his place? Who do you think would have been more electable?

---dr.M.

Anyone who won the Democratic primaries would have been subject to Rovian attack dog measures. But I can make a case for a couple of those who were trying.

Liberman would have had a shot, IMHO. Dibold conspiracy theories aside, one of the main reasons Bush won florida this time around has been his staunch support of Israel. He separated older, jewish voters from their traditional Democratic leanings by raising the spector of Kerry selling out Israel to cement his cheriesihed closer ties with Europe. With Liberman, that might not have occured.

Edwards, might have actually been a better candidate than Kerry. Like it or not, he's from the south and painting him as "an elitisit North eastern liberal snob" wouldn't have flown. He seemed to have more charisma than Kerry and might, just might, have been able to carry a southern state or two. Of course he is very young and a Clinton clone, so that's a big if, but he would have stood a better chance than Kerry in the South east.

Clarke, would have stood a chance. He's defintely not your run of the mill liberal. His military service, while obviously not unimpeechable, is very close. The positions I heard him give on things were so moderate as to be almost centrist. He stood a good chance of getting the votes of moderate republicans. Granted, the far left liberal base of the Democratic party would have called him a republican in Dem's clothing, but in the end, they would have voted for Satan over GWB, so you loose nothing. Clarke probably would have run stronger in the Southeast and mid-west.

While each of these men had Something going for him, they all had strikes. Kerry, had NOTHING going for him. He was not Charismatic at all, I know long time Dems who held their nose when they voted for him. He wasn't decisive, had no plan he was willing to expound on and ran a very vanilla campaign, that seemed to lend creedence to the GOP charges he was incdecisive. He was a war protestor, and while many Dems hold the view that is being patriotic, the view isn't held in the southeast or west, if anything it's viewed as traitorus in the states where he needed to beat GWB. I think Kerry was the most electable in the minds of Democrats who voted in the primaries because he had the fewest strikes against him to start with. Rove found plenty to attack. The key was, he had the fewest strikes because he had taken the fewest stands, and when the attack dogs went to work, there was nothing of substance in the man or his record to counter the smears.

The situation being what it is, I feel pretty strongly the best choice never entered a primary Doc. The absolute best candidate would have been a highly popular democrat from Ohio, or Virginia, or Florida or somewhere out west. A man with the grassroots support in his home state to carry it and living in a home state with enough electoral votes to make a difference. Before the first ballot was cast, the Northeast was theirs, the old north west was theirs, the west coast was theirs. They just needed one major state in the southeast, mid west or west to buck the trend and go democrat.

-Colly

 

[shereads]

I'm just curious: with all the dissatisfaction everyone seems to feel for Kerry, who would you have run in his place? Who do you think would have been more electable?

---dr.M.

I think Dean's unedited honesty would have come into fashion. His candidacy died because Tim Russert kept telling Democrats that we thought Dean was unelectable.

That said, I admire Kerry for having been willing to take on the most thankless first term of any president in memory. We're in a pit so deep, just offering to help dig out was heroic.

We made the same error this time we did in 2000: we marketed our candidates as solutions to complicated issues. Karl Rove long ago learned that most people don''t study issues beyond the point where they cease to be entertaining.

I'm going to send e-mails to all of my candidates, including Dean, to thank them for trying. no matter how we feel right now, they feel worse. To offer yourself as the person to try to reverse the damage, and have it thrown back in your face so soundly, must feel like pure hell.

Elizabeth Edwards has been diagnosed with invasive breast cancer. They lost a son five years ago. What a lousy week they're having.

 

[shereads]

I can't imagine how Kerry must feel, particularly about the way veterans were torn apart by his candidacy. He got no credit at all for the years he devoted along with John McCain to seeking answers about our MIAs in Vietnam. He got no credit for his efforts to spend more on veterans issues and less on the corporate military machine. He was the first candidate who had volunteered for Vietnam, and the people who hated Bill Clinton for dodging the draft treated him even worse.