What the Secret Service says about our Presidents JFK- Now

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'In the President's Secret Service:Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect', by Ronald Kessler


"Here are snippets from a book of "Impressions & Observations"
of Secret Service personnel assigned to guard *U.S. Presidents /
**First Ladies, and ***Vice Presidents."


JOHN & JACQUELINE KENNEDY:
*"A philanderer of the highest order. "
**"She ordered the kitchen help to save all the left-over wine during
State dinner, which mixed with fresh wine and served again during
the next White House occasion."

LYNDON & LADYBIRD JOHNSON:
*"Another philanderer of the highest order. In addition, LBJ was as
crude as the day is long."
"Both JFK and LBJ kept a lot of women in the White House for
extramarital affairs, and both had set up "early warning systems"
to alert them if/when their wives were nearby. Both Kennedy
Johnson were promiscuous and oversexed men. "
**"She was either naive or just pretended to "not know" about her
husband's many liaisons. "

RICHARD & PAT NIXON
*"A "moral" man but very odd and weird, paranoid, etc. He had
horrible relationship with his family, and in a way, was almost
a recluse."
**"She was quiet most of the time."

SPIRO AGNEW:
***Nice, decent man, everyone in the Secret Service was
surprised about his downfall."

GERALD & BETTY FORD:
*"A true gentlemen who treated the Secret Service with
respect and dignity. He had a great sense of humor. "
**"She drank a lot!"

JIMMY & ROSALYN CARTER:
*"A complete phony who would portray one picture of himself
to public and very different in private, eg., would be shown
carrying his own luggage, but the suit cases were always empty;
he kept empty ones just for photo op's. Wanted the people to
see him as pious and a non-drinker, but he and his family drank
alcohol a lot. He had disdain for the Secret Service, and was
very irresponsible with the "football" nuclear codes. He didn't
think it was a big deal and would keep military aides at a great
distance. Often does not acknowledge the presence of Secret
Service personnel assigned to serve him."
**"She mostly did her own thing."

RONALD & NANCY REAGAN:
*"The real deal --- moral, honest, respectful, and dignified.
They treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and
honor. Thanked everyone all the time. He took the time to know
everyone on a personal level. "
"One "favorite" story which has circulated among the Secret
Service personnel was an incident early in his Presidency,
when he came out of his room with a pistol tucked on his hip.
The agent in charge asked: "Why the pistol, Mr. President?"
He replied, "In case you boys can't get the job done, I can help."
It was common for him to carry a pistol. When he met with
Gorbachev, he had a pistol in his briefcase. Upon learning that
Gary Hart was caught with Donna Rice, Reagan said,
"Boys will be boys, but boys will not be Presidents."
[He obviously either did not know or forgot JFK's and LBJ's
sexcapades!]"
**"She was very nice but very protective of the President; and
the Secret Service was often caught in the middle. She tried
hard to control what the President ate, and he would say to the
agent "Come on, you gotta help me out."
The Reagans drank wine during State dinners and special
occasions only; otherwise, they shunned alcohol; the Secret
Service could count on one hand the times they were served
wine during their "family dinner". For all the fake bluster of
the Carters, the Reagans were the ones who lived life as
genuinely moral people."

GEORGE H. & BARBARA BUSH:
*"Extremely kind and considerate Always respectful.
Took great care in making sure the agents' comforts were
taken care of. They even brought them meals, etc.
He was the most prompt of the Presidents. He ran the White
House like a well-oiled machine."
**"One time Barbara Bush brought warm clothes to agents
standing outside at Kennebunkport; one agent who was given
a warm hat, and when he tried to nicely say "no thanks"
even though he was obviously freezing, President Bush said
"Son, don't argue with the First Lady, put the hat on."
She ruled the house and spoke her mind."

BILL & HILLARY CLINTON:
*"Presidency was one giant party. Not trustworthy --- he was
nice because he wanted everyone to like him, but to him life
is just one big game and party. Everyone knows of his sexuality."
**She is another phony. Her personality would change the instant
cameras were near. She hated with open disdain the military and
Secret Service. She was another one who felt people are there to
serve her. She was always trying to keep tabs on Bill Clinton."

ALBERT GORE:
***An egotistical ass, who was once overheard by his Secret
Service detail lecturing his only son that he needed to do better
in school or he "would end up like these guys" --- pointing to
the agents."

GEORGE W. & LAURA BUSH:
*The Secret Service loved him and Laura Bush.
He was also the most physically "in shape" who had a very
strict workout regimen. The Bushes made sure their entire
administrative and household staff understood to respect and
be considerate of the Secret Service.
**"She was one of the nicest First Ladies, if not the nicest;
she never had any harsh word to say about anyone."
KARL ROVE was the one who was the most caring of the
Secret Service in the administration."

BARACK & MICHELLE OBAMA:
*" Clinton all over again" - hates the military and looks down
on the Secret Service. He is egotistical and cunning; looks you
in the eye and appears to agree with you, but turns around and
does the opposite---untrustworthy. He has temper tantrums."
**She is a complete bitch, who hates anybody who is not black;
hates the military; and looks at the Secret Service as servants."
 
LOL. So all the Dems were liars, drunks and frauds, all the Reps were moral, upstanding pillars of society.
 
Ah, this guy is the Washington Insider for Newsmax. Colour me surprised.
 
So... according to this "article", the secret service is blabbing about a sitting president?


If that's true, they're completely unprofessional, and endangering national security... if not, this entire "article" is bullshit.

So, which is it?
 
I think many of the statements are well known and not very big secret regarding past presidents. I would be surprised that any SS would discuss a sitting president. They are far to disciplined for that.

I have two friends in the SS. One currently is attached to Bush Sr. He said that both Reagan and Bush Sr were very respected and liked because they were genuinely polite and nice people and knew each agent by their first names as well as info like wife and kids. They treated agents like family.

The SS like Bill Clinton but was not fond of Hillary during her tenure as FL but it has been remarked she has changed since that time.

My one bud states that the SS like Bush Jr. regardless of his political image. In person he was respectful and has a great sense of humor.

Neither will discuss Obama. As I said they are disciplined and do not discuss a sitting president. However I honestly believe both Obamas are racist. They attended a church for many years led by a minister who preaches racism from the pulpit.

Regarding Carter it is not a secret he did not like the military. I do think Carter was probably a genuinely decent man. The problem with being overly pious is when a chink in the armor appears it gets sensationalized because we all know we expect Christ like perfection from our Christians. :rolleyes:

The only president I met and it was just a handshake when he visited our base was Bush Jr. My perception was firm handshake and seemed like a genuinely nice man. I only observed him up close for 5 minutes tops.

I am not that politically minded to be honest so I have no dog in this hunt. My adult life was the Marines and I did not concern myself with politics. Since I now live overseas my interests in politics are even less.
 
LOL. So all the Dems were liars, drunks and frauds, all the Reps were moral, upstanding pillars of society.

That is the same guy giving the can of corn emoticon seal of approval for a Schutzstaffel flag.
 
That is the same guy giving the can of corn emoticon seal of approval for a Schutzstaffel flag.

He also thinks that we should celebrate dropping the bomb every August. Not commemorate, actually celebrate. He's a piece of shit.
 
Those are not the author's words.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/secret-service-tattletales/

By the way, the book was published over two years ago.

Indeed.

FULL ANSWER

This partisan screed has some very red flags flying, which should warn the wary reader that it's not accurate. It's not signed, a clue that whoever wrote it does not wish to take responsibility. He or she gives no direct quotes or page-number citations from the book supposedly being summarized — only paraphrases that, it turns out, reflect the opinions of the anonymous writer but not necessarily those of Secret Service agents. Most versions of the message (unlike the one we cite here) do not even give the title of the book or the author.

The truth is the message makes grossly false and misleading claims about what is contained in the book. "In the President's Secret Service" was written by Ronald Kessler, a former Washington Post reporter who is now chief Washington correspondent for the conservative news site Newsmax. When we contacted Kessler, he told us:

Author Ronald Kessler: [A]bout a third of the items are wrong and not in the book. In addition, the summaries of Obama, Agnew, and Bill Clinton are completely wrong, Contrary to the email, the book actually says Obama treats the Secret Service with respect and appreciates what the agents do. It does not say he hates the military.

Furthermore, the book is not the one-sided partisan attack that the e-mail describes. As Kessler says:

Kessler: The book is totally non-partisan and skewers Democrats–JFK, LBJ, Carter, Gary Hart,– and Republicans–Nixon, Jenna Bush, Barbara Bush, Dick Cheney's daughter Mary, Agnew, Ford, and Bush's treasury secretary John Snow–alike.

We won't attempt to address every claim this message makes about every president. Some are accurate enough. The book does quote former Secret Service agents as saying Lyndon Johnson had numerous sexual affairs in the White House and elsewhere (pages 15-16). It says agents considered Jimmy Carter the "least likeable" modern president (page 70), and relates a number of unflattering anecdotes about him (pages 70-79). And it also says that unlike Carter, Ronald Reagan "treated Secret Service agents, the Air Force One crew, and the maids and butlers in the White House with respect" (page 87).

But the e-mail grossly misrepresents what the book says about Obama and some others.

Obama

Contrary to the e-mail's account, the book does not say that President Obama "hates the military and looks down on the Secret Service." In fact, it says the opposite.

"In the President's Secret Service," page 223: Agents say both Barack Obama — code-named Renegade — and Michelle Obama — code-named Renaissance — treat them with respect, as does Biden.

"Twice Obama invited agents to dinner, including a party for a relative, both at his home," says an agent who was on his candidate detail. Michelle Obama insists that agents call her by her first name.

About the least flattering thing the book says about Obama is that he "has continued to smoke regularly," despite saying he was quitting (page 224). That was early in the administration. Kessler's book first appeared in 2009.

Agnew

Kessler's book does not describe Spiro T. Agnew as "a nice, decent man" or say that "everyone was surprised at his downfall," as this e-mail falsely claims. Agnew was the Republican vice president who resigned in disgrace in 1973 after pleading "no contest" to criminal charges stemming from his acceptance of bribes, and who later repaid $268,000 in kickbacks and interest to the state of Maryland as the result of a civil suit, and was disbarred from the practice of law.

Kessler's book says that Agnew — far from being "a decent man" — was "having affairs while in office" and relying on Secret Service agents to cover for him. "We felt like pimps," the book quotes one unnamed former agent as recalling (pages 35-36).

Ford

The book doesn't describe Gerald Ford as "a true gentleman," as the message claims. To be sure, agents are quoted calling Ford "a decent man." But the book says he was also so "cheap" that he tipped golf caddies only a buck and sometimes cadged money from agents to pay for small purchases, such as a newspaper (page 49).

Clinton

Bill Clinton is described as chronically late for events (page 143), and the book tells a number of unflattering tales about his wife, Hillary, who is described as having an "angry personality" and "an explosive temper" (page 169). But agents don't describe him as "not trustworthy," as the message claims. And there's no reference to the Clinton presidency being "one giant party," or anything similar. In the book, one unnamed agent says Bill Clinton "is very friendly to agents" and "does treat the guys really well" (page 170).

We can't vouch for the accuracy of everything in Kessler's book, which sometimes relies on quotes from former agents who are not named. But this anonymous e-mail is wholly one-sided and in many instances a false description of what the book contains.

– Brooks Jackson
 
So you're saying that Lost Cause is a lying sack of shit?

KR that is very harsh don't you think? Rather than a lying sack of shit, I prefer to think of Mr. (notice the polite addition of this title) Lost Cause as a partisan prevaricating perverter of inaccurate and distorted partial facts that has suffered a feces impaction from longterm and ongoing constipation brought on by the mindless and continual consumption of toxic predigested bits.


Now see, isn't that much more civil?



Comshaw
 
KR that is very harsh don't you think? Rather than a lying sack of shit, I prefer to think of Mr. (notice the polite addition of this title) Lost Cause as a partisan prevaricating perverter of inaccurate and distorted partial facts that has suffered a feces impaction from longterm and ongoing constipation brought on by the mindless and continual consumption of toxic predigested bits.


Now see, isn't that much more civil?



Comshaw

Being civil just leads to wars.
 
LOL. So all the Dems were liars, drunks and frauds, all the Reps were moral, upstanding pillars of society.

Did you expect anything else? This was all common knowledge "on the inside" for years. Want to hear the story of Hills and the Marine One pilot?
 
Those are not the author's words.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/secret-service-tattletales/

By the way, the book was published over two years ago.

Did you expect anything else? This was all common knowledge "on the inside" for years. Want to hear the story of Hills and the Marine One pilot?

Are you so blinded by partisanship that you don't even see the facts as presented by the alleged author of the hatred you so glibly support?
 
So... according to this "article", the secret service is blabbing about a sitting president?


If that's true, they're completely unprofessional, and endangering national security... if not, this entire "article" is bullshit.

So, which is it?

I agree it's unprofessional for the SS to be pissing on Obama and Michelle.

Though I suspect that what was said is true.......:)
 
I'll save time for the next person clicking in --

Another debunked piece of horseshit from Lost Cause, an ammonia soaked cunt.
 
Having trouble reading again, I see.

BARACK & MICHELLE OBAMA:
*" Clinton all over again" - hates the military and looks down
on the Secret Service. He is egotistical and cunning; looks you
in the eye and appears to agree with you, but turns around and
does the opposite---untrustworthy. He has temper tantrums."
**She is a complete bitch, who hates anybody who is not black;
hates the military; and looks at the Secret Service as servants."


You having trouble with your time line...?...
 
BARACK & MICHELLE OBAMA:
*" Clinton all over again" - hates the military and looks down
on the Secret Service. He is egotistical and cunning; looks you
in the eye and appears to agree with you, but turns around and
does the opposite---untrustworthy. He has temper tantrums."
**She is a complete bitch, who hates anybody who is not black;
hates the military; and looks at the Secret Service as servants."


You having trouble with your time line...?...

Read Phrodeau's post. You're looking really stupid right now.
 
Read Phrodeau's post. You're looking really stupid right now.

Let me think now...did it occur to you that I was responding to the opening post???

Did it occur to you that I have no requirement to read any posts other than the post to which I was responding???

You're pretty loose with the "stupid" statement.

I'm s'posing everyone is stupid but you.
 
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