What the hell????

[ABSTRUSE]

I woke up this morning to the realization that.......the sun still came up.

It's still not clear who's president, but let's look at it this way:

No one here died from what happened. There are no troops in our neighborhoods. We still have certain rights, one of them being to be in this forum and speak our minds.
We don't have to stand in line for food.
Warlords didn't slaughter us or cut off our limbs.
We have somewhat clean drinking water and better yet, indoor plumbing.
We have hospitals and shopping centers and banks.
We have cars and homes and family and friends...some of us even have our health.
We can pass over the border into the next state without fear.
Aliens didn't land in our back yards and vaporize us.

okay, what I'm trying to say is that, it's not as bad as we can make it out to be.......it may not be good at times, but it's not as horrible as others around the world have....by golly some people don't have the internet

I just wanted to try to project some postive vibes here folks.....we are writers of smut...publically viewed and sometimes trolled, but damnit...it's ours.

So.....feel free to humiliate, flog , defame, throw rocks at me or do what ever may help.......Dunk the clown(Me) if you must. I'll let it go for today without retribution.

Abs

 

[oggbashan]

The main advantage of democracy is that it is one way of changing a country's government (or not) without bloodshed or 'death lists'.

The system of checks and balances in the US political system means that radical change is difficult, whoever is elected to be President. That system may creak and groan under the strain but it exists and can be used to defend freedoms that people value even against their President.

Og

 

[English Lady]

Abs - good on you.

EL -who always sees the bright side

 

[razor_nut]

I'm trying to keep positive as well.

Just one note though, those checks and balances fail when you have all one party in every branch. We now will (most likely) have a republican president, supported by a House and Senate with majority rule of republicans that is stronger than the last term, and a judicary branch with a conservative majority that is sure to grow in the coming years.

With this kind of domination, republicans can pass just about whatever they want upon the people.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Yeah, everything looks the same outside, but we now have to face the fact that we live in a nation that doesn’t share the values of most of us here on Lit. We’re all refugees in our own country now: a minority.

We now have a government that will do its best to shut Literotica down; one that views we who post here as basically criminal and possibly even deserving of punishment.

We’ve endorsed a government that is spending the lives of our sons and daughters and neighbors for no good reason in Iraq, and one that’s killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis for no better reason than that they lived there. We don’t notice these deaths, but I assure you, every one of them leaves behind a family and friends that loved them and needed them and lost them through the actions of our government, a goivernment we've just given the thumbs up to.

Most of us will be poorer as we continue to pay for the tax cuts of the rich and incorporated. Our schools will continue to get less money. Public services like transportation and infrastructure will continue to deteriorate. Decent jobs will be harder to find and there will be less money for re-training. Money will continue to flow from the poorer to the richer.

Women will very likely lose the right to abortion, increasing the number of impoverished and unwanted children and resulting in an enormous setback to women’s rights.

The Supreme Court will be rigged to the right, having all sorts of effects on legislating morality.

The price of gas and energy will remain high and probably get higher. We’ll have no practicable national energy policy. We can expect more oil shortages and shocks and military interventions.

It’ll be more and more risky for an American to venture anywhere abroad, even in Europe, home of our traditional allies, and we’ll be less free at home. Respect for America will continue to deteriorate, replaced by hatred and suspicion. We’ll continue to live under this grinding pall of fear and paranoia here at home.

It’s a defeat for those of us who view the world in terms of empathy and understanding, and a victory for those who feel that might makes right. It's a defeat for those of us who feel connected to our friends in other countries, and a victory for the rabid nationalists.

So yes, the sun’s still shining and there’s still food on the table, but it’s not the same country it was when I went to bed last night. We're a minority now, and who's going to look out for our rights?

--Zoot

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I'm so glad that you people exists here......makes it all so much nicer.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I'm so glad that you people exists here......makes it all so much nicer.

That's who we are now: the Literotica Underground, a little subculture of perverts and freaks. We've got to look out for one another.

--Zoot

 

[English Lady]

That's who we are now: the Literotica Underground, a little subculture of perverts and freaks. We've got to look out for one another.

--Zoot

Is it wrong that the above really turns me on?

 

[TheEarl]

Yeah, everything looks the same outside, but we now have to face the fact that we live in a nation that doesn’t share the values of most of us here on Lit. We’re all refugees in our own country now: a minority.

We now have a government that will do its best to shut Literotica down; one that views we who post here as basically criminal and possibly even deserving of punishment.

We’ve endorsed a government that is spending the lives of our sons and daughters and neighbors for no good reason in Iraq, and one that’s killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis for no better reason than that they lived there. We don’t notice these deaths, but I assure you, every one of them leaves behind a family and friends that loved them and needed them and lost them through the actions of our government, a goivernment we've just given the thumbs up to.

Most of us will be poorer as we continue to pay for the tax cuts of the rich and incorporated. Our schools will continue to get less money. Public services like transportation and infrastructure will continue to deteriorate. Decent jobs will be harder to find and there will be less money for re-training. Money will continue to flow from the poorer to the richer.

Women will very likely lose the right to abortion, increasing the number of impoverished and unwanted children and resulting in an enormous setback to women’s rights.

The Supreme Court will be rigged to the right, having all sorts of effects on legislating morality.

The price of gas and energy will remain high and probably get higher. We’ll have no practicable national energy policy. We can expect more oil shortages and shocks and military interventions.

It’ll be more and more risky for an American to venture anywhere abroad, even in Europe, home of our traditional allies, and we’ll be less free at home. Respect for America will continue to deteriorate, replaced by hatred and suspicion. We’ll continue to live under this grinding pall of fear and paranoia here at home.

It’s a defeat for those of us who view the world in terms of empathy and understanding, and a victory for those who feel that might makes right. It's a defeat for those of us who feel connected to our friends in other countries, and a victory for the rabid nationalists.

So yes, the sun’s still shining and there’s still food on the table, but it’s not the same country it was when I went to bed last night. We're a minority now, and who's going to look out for our rights?

--Zoot

Cheer up Doc, life's not that bad. I've just been flattened and dumped by my Lady of 13 months, I'm listening to depressing music, I've been drunk every evening for the last week and I'm the one telling you to cheer up? Someone been putting mercury in your coffee?

The Earl

 

[sweetnpetite]

I just wanted to try to project some postive vibes here folks..... Abs

ON the bright side:

Term Limits.

(I'm not going to hold my breath for a referendum)

 

[Guest]

Thank you Abby, you're the best.

Perdita

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Thank you Abby, you're the best.

Perdita

yeah, I know........I'd asked for a statue in my honor but the gosling would shit on it.

 

[SnoopDog]

Aliens didn't land in our back yards and vaporize us.

Just wait and see.

Snoopy

 

[Colleen Thomas]

For two hundred years we have been waking up to the day after to find Armegeddon was percipitated by our votes. It's an exhaustive, draining, and frustrating spectacle and it's not surprising that it leaves people farazzled. But in four years we will do it again and the sun will rise the day after that one too.



For all those who feel hopeless today.

 

[SnoopDog]

For two hundred years we have been waking up to the day after to find Armegeddon was percipitated by our votes. It's an exhaustive, draining, and frustrating spectacle and it's not surprising that it leaves people farazzled. But in four years we will do it again and the sun will rise the day after that one too.



For all those who feel hopeless today.

In some way you are right, and I hope you are not mad at me for my other thread, but you also have to try and understand the other site.

Snoopy

 

[Colleen Thomas]

In some way you are right, and I hope you are not mad at me for my other thread, but you also have to try and understand the other site.

Snoopy

Little beagle, if I had been mad, you would have known it. I've nothing if not an explosive temper.

The odd thing is I do see both sides. I see them with a good deal more clarity than most here today, because my view is not clouded with victory or defeat. It's fairly emotionless and therefore more objective.

The world's anger, fear and inablility to grasp how we, as a nation, could put such a nimrod back into office is easy to understand and sympathize with. At the same time, it shouldn't be such a surprise, a few here, myself included, have been prediciting four more years for a while now. All could hope it wouldn't happen, but at the same time, an objective view left Kerry winning a long shot.

What you, and the rest of the world needs to see is that domestic issues play more strongly in this country than world issues.

The avid hunter, who enjoys the outdoor life, sees the Democrat's asault on his right to own a gun as far more important than bombs falling in Iraq. To a religious man who feels abortion is murder, the hundreds of "unborn" children who die daily leagaly is more egrigious than the few who die daily in Iraq. And the list goes on. We don't vote based solely on a president's foerign policy. A lot of us vote based on issues closer to home.

I am not angry with you or anyone else outside the US who is unhappy with the results. I only wish you to see that GWB's abilities as a statesman are not the only or even main factor in a person's decision to vote here usually.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

That's who we are now: the Literotica Underground, a little subculture of perverts and freaks. We've got to look out for one another.

--Zoot

 

[SnoopDog]

Little beagle, if I had been mad, you would have known it. I've nothing if not an explosive temper.

The odd thing is I do see both sides. I see them with a good deal more clarity than most here today, because my view is not clouded with victory or defeat. It's fairly emotionless and therefore more objective.

The world's anger, fear and inablility to grasp how we, as a nation, could put such a nimrod back into office is easy to understand and sympathize with. At the same time, it shouldn't be such a surprise, a few here, myself included, have been prediciting four more years for a while now. All could hope it wouldn't happen, but at the same time, an objective view left Kerry winning a long shot.

What you, and the rest of the world needs to see is that domestic issues play more strongly in this country than world issues.

The avid hunter, who enjoys the outdoor life, sees the Democrat's asault on his right to own a gun as far more important than bombs falling in Iraq. To a religious man who feels abortion is murder, the hundreds of "unborn" children who die daily leagaly is more egrigious than the few who die daily in Iraq. And the list goes on. We don't vote based solely on a president's foerign policy. A lot of us vote based on issues closer to home.

I am not angry with you or anyone else outside the US who is unhappy with the results. I only wish you to see that GWB's abilities as a statesman are not the only or even main factor in a person's decision to vote here usually.

-Colly

Understood. That might be my problem, because since I'm, not an american of course I'll focus mainly on the foreign politics of the US of A. But I also don't really think that George W is the best choice when it comes to inner politics. But on that I can't really comment, because I lack insight.

Snoopy

 

[ABSTRUSE]

People, it's like wanting the last pickle in the jar....you fish around with a fork, it bobs and weaves, you finally stab it and it falls back in before you get it clear of the jar's mouth, so you try again, chasing it, stabbing it until finally you get it and carefully lift it out, but by then the desire is gone and you realize are you're left with is pickle brine and some odd bits of crap floating on the bottom.

I have no idea what this means, I have major PMS and I want a dill pickle.

 

[minsue]

People, it's like wanting the last pickle in the jar....you fish around with a fork, it bobs and weaves, you finally stab it and it falls back in before you get it clear of the jar's mouth, so you try again, chasing it, stabbing it until finally you get it and carefully lift it out, but by then the desire is gone and you realize are you're left with is pickle brine and some odd bits of crap floating on the bottom.

I have no idea what this means, I have major PMS and I want a dill pickle.

 

[comp|icity]

Umm, sorry - I am generally very supportive of positivity, so don't want to dampen that, but I thought the following ought to be said:

No one here died from what happened. There are no troops in our neighborhoods. We still have certain rights, one of them being to be in this forum and speak our minds. Unlike in Iraq

We don't have to stand in line for food. Like they do in Iraq

Warlords didn't slaughter us or cut off our limbs.Unlike many unfortunates in Iraq.

We have somewhat clean drinking water and better yet, indoor plumbing. That's more than has been established in Iraq.

We have hospitals and shopping centers and banks.
We have cars and homes and family and friends...some of us even have our health.ok, I think you know the parallel I'm going to draw

We can pass over the border into the next state without fear. oh, yes one more time (although I suppose I could use Palestine here)

Aliens didn't land in our back yards and vaporize us. Ahh, now that woould be the Americans in Iraq...

I know this message is wasted on Literoticans, who by their nature are already very liberal, I just wish there was a way of venting this in the face of all those ignorant fools who think this man is doing a good job. (and yes, I realise us Brits can't talk unless we get rid of Blair).

 

[dr_mabeuse]

People, it's like wanting the last pickle in the jar....you fish around with a fork, it bobs and weaves, you finally stab it and it falls back in before you get it clear of the jar's mouth, so you try again, chasing it, stabbing it until finally you get it and carefully lift it out, but by then the desire is gone and you realize are you're left with is pickle brine and some odd bits of crap floating on the bottom.

I have no idea what this means, I have major PMS and I want a dill pickle.

I know what it means, Abs. It means you want a pickle desperately.

Mine's available, and maybe it would help me out with these blues.

--Zoot

 

[BlackShanglan]

That's who we are now: the Literotica Underground, a little subculture of perverts and freaks. We've got to look out for one another.

--Zoot

Charming though the image is, it's hard to feel a deeply persecuted minority when one has, in fact, got 48% of the vote.

 

[minsue]

Re: Re: What the hell????

I know this message is wasted on Literoticans, who by their nature are already very liberal, I just wish there was a way of venting this in the face of all those ignorant fools who think this man is doing a good job. (and yes, I realise us Brits can't talk unless we get rid of Blair).

Admit it, preaching to the choir is fun

 

[McKenna]

Re: Re: What the hell????

Umm, sorry - I am generally very supportive of positivity, so don't want to dampen that, but I thought the following ought to be said:

No one here died from what happened. There are no troops in our neighborhoods. We still have certain rights, one of them being to be in this forum and speak our minds. Unlike in Iraq

We don't have to stand in line for food. Like they do in Iraq

Warlords didn't slaughter us or cut off our limbs.Unlike many unfortunates in Iraq.

We have somewhat clean drinking water and better yet, indoor plumbing. That's more than has been established in Iraq.

We have hospitals and shopping centers and banks.
We have cars and homes and family and friends...some of us even have our health.ok, I think you know the parallel I'm going to draw

We can pass over the border into the next state without fear. oh, yes one more time (although I suppose I could use Palestine here)

Aliens didn't land in our back yards and vaporize us. Ahh, now that woould be the Americans in Iraq...

I know this message is wasted on Literoticans, who by their nature are already very liberal, I just wish there was a way of venting this in the face of all those ignorant fools who think this man is doing a good job. (and yes, I realise us Brits can't talk unless we get rid of Blair).

Jesus fucking Chrits! There are ENOUGH political threads to tout your views! Go find one and leave this one alone! Good God... I'm flabbergasted by the stupidity of people today, and not just Americans.

Abs, I'll wrassle you for that pickle. No, no, Mab. Not that pickle!