What Nicole and others really thihnk of lit at other sites

[Starfish]

I was going to do a newbie joke (Irony? Irony anyone?) but then I noticed your post total is higher than mine. What the hell is THAT about? LOL

Newbie? I've been here as a registered member under the G.R./Starfish Identity for 6 months. I've been here under another name which has been removed at my request, for a year and a month. I've been reading at this site for longer.

I am no newbie, but I am no old timer like yourself.


I guess you could say my post count is higher, because I've been making up for a lot of 'silent' time.

 

[Wizard]

I had enough and had to speak my mind...................


"Killermuffin"
Went there, read the thread, could give a fuck less. So they think we're a buncha bitches with constant infighting? Whoopee fuckin do. Ambro scuttled his happy ass over and made that board cause a bunch of us bitched about his ridiculous posting habits which essentially amounted to Thread Title: Groupie's Name Thread Content: Hi! You have mail! We miss that how again?

I do Ambro the courtesy of staying off that board because his Shiny Happy Posters can't deal with me as I am. Intolerant assholes. Hell, some people on this very thread can't deal with me as I am. Who gives a fuck? Not I.

If they wanna whine about how horrible this board has become, more power to 'em. Let 'em cry and get cuddles from Mindless Groupies because we play to rough over here, or because we're "cliquish." Oh my gawd, we let all of our human nature hang out here. Tough stuff, grow a skin cause we don't censor our members.

Unlike that board, we're anti-censorship. That means we DO NOT censor anyone just cause we don't like what they say. Otherwise it's fuckin censorship. Just cause some troll spews it's bilish jealous guts out doesn't mean that we can say ick! Censor it! Censorship is an all or nothing kind of thing. We accept all or we're censoring our content.

Shiny Happy Posterland is a censored environment. They don't like you or what you say, you are outta there. So they banned Kid Rock and his Hoochie mamma. I guess that makes them good people. I mean, it's not like KR is actually human and deserving of his rights to post. It takes guts to take an anti-censorship stand and stick to it. It's not going to be popular because someone is always going to demand that those we don't like be censored, like trolls and idiots. But if we keep moving that line in the sand, then more and more of our free speech on this board is taken away.

Fighting happens, we got a huge cultural wash here and some things just don't mix. Take the whole Democrat and Republican thing for a ferinstance. Unlike some other boards who presume to censor for the good of the membership, Laurel leaves what we choose to read and react to up to us. She drew her line in the sand. No personal info and no minors. She doesn't cross it for her convenience, why the hell shouldn't she cross it for someone elses?

We're supposed to be adults here. We can cry about how we come online to relax and enjoy ourselves because the real world is such a cruel place. Reality check kiddies. This is the real world too. If your fat and ugly in the office, guess what, you're either fat and ugly here or a fuckin liar. If there's mean people in the mall, well guess what, there's mean people here. You want to go someplace to relax and enjoy yourself without the real world, read a harelquin romance where reality is checked at the cover or do your one stop "check reality at the door" shopping in Shiny Happy Poster Land where the only danger is being banned for being your normal bitchy self or dying of hyperglycemia.

As for those other boards, Nicole is obviously not someone you'd care to trust, cause she has no problems talking about someone behind their backs. Other than that, who cares what they think in Shiny Happy Poster Land? I don't give a rats ass. Just like they don't give a rats ass what KillerMuffin here in litland thinks. Of course, KM in SHPL is a different matter. They'd ban me if I was ever myself there 'cause I don't censor myself for anyone's convenience. I guess that's why I like it here. I can say it and it won't be deleted and won't get me banned. There, fogeddaboudit. Censorship Central. I am not in their "clique." Of course, that bothers me not at all.

They're over there, happy as bubble gum in a dispenser, and I'm over here, happy as a Muffin at a pornsite.

I forgot what my point was. Oh yeah. Don't waste your time, Siren, they don't matter. Not really.





I think that was pretty well put KM...............................


Dixon Carter Lee
Something Wicked This Way Comes

Registered: Nov 1999
Location: LA
Posts: 3630
Is it a clique? Yeah. So what? Clique is just another word for community, which is the goal here.


Not everyone is going to fit in with one another............

But if you are going to talk about someone have the respect to talk to them.......Many on this board know who I don't care for and they could care less about me......................That is fine. The way I see it 99% of you folks I'll never see and really don't care about anyhow..........I wish no harm on any but I wouldn't go out of my way to have a drink with many.

I did notice the thread with everyones pics is funny to me.......Everyone pating one another on the back how cute or sexy they are..........come on give me a break there are some ugly mothers on the thread..............and Fat too.....
Most of the folks here are "Fake" plain and simple.........
Siren brought this up before in picking her avatare........
Folks bitch at shit like my spelling and others...........Well Fuck excuse me I didn't know we where at school and spelling counted I thought it was a fucking pron site and we talked about good fucking.................................got new thought on things we could do to our boy friend girl friends or what ever........

I have been flamed with the best of them in almost 2 years , I get board fade away for a while always reading and come back to jump in the game again.

I think Siren was within her rights to confront the issue.......
I know I respect folks that have the balls to say Wiz your wrong or fucked up..........I mean hell I have also learned alot for this place.
I don't like snakes and a snake is one that runs away to talk about someone else..........

Just how I see it.

 

[jcgirl]

Re: Shit it was me, and I am not hiding.

I posted that. Guess I screwed it up when I went to copy it, I am a techno geek.

But it is not about who posted it, and it is about what people really are saying and going somewhere else to say it. and not saying it here,

No worse than a troll.

It is the truth of how they feel,...pretending to be nice when in fact they are mean and bitter and say ugly things behind our backs.

How is this entire thread different than what Nicole said? Nothing. Nothing is different. What do you expect a person to do? Copy and paste whatever the hell they said about one board on another to the board they were speaking of? Thats ludicrous. I'm pretty sure some are like me who post to several different boards. Am I to post the same thing to every board? I think not. It would take me an hour to post the same freaking thing.

Im not afraid to speak my mind or take a different road from the majority. But Ill be damned if I have to watch what I say to make sure EVERYONE who thinks they should hear it, hears it. Its closeminded and impossible to achieve.

I have yet to see a single post from any of you at the other BB in question. Now how the fuck is that not being mean and bitter behind those registered posters backs? That BB has never, I repeat NEVER claimed to be in any way shape or form better than Lit. Because its not. Its DIFFERENT. Just different. Every board has a personality. Its derived from its posters and its originators. And as we all know, some personalities mesh and some clash. That makes no board better than another, and not one poster better than another.

You people are being childish. Im sure if Nicole thought that speaking her mind on this PARTICULAR topic here would not have gotten her ass flamed than she would have done it. We've all known Nicole a long time. When has she not spoken her mind. So what if she took it to another board.

If I log off my computer and bitch about you whiners to my husband, am I being mean and bitter behind your backs? No. Because its none of your fucking business what I say to other people. If it was meant for your ears I would have told it to your face.

 

[Mensa]

Where's the off switch?

ive only been here for 2 weeks [/B]

571 posts in two weeks? Women! You can't live without 'em and you can't turn 'em off.

 

[Mensa]

The truth will out!

I've told lots of people I don't like that I like them, just to keep peace and move things along.

So that's the way of it, is it? Alright for you, buddy!

 

[Nicole]

I had enough and had to speak my mind..................

I think Siren was within her rights to confront the issue.......
I know I respect folks that have the balls to say Wiz your wrong or fucked up..........I mean hell I have also learned alot for this place.
I don't like snakes and a snake is one that runs away to talk about someone else..........

Just how I see it.

Wizard as I have stated I said what I did there because the question was asked there, had it been asked here I would have said the same.

This isn't about me hiding, hell Siren knows I don't like her, she doesn't like me either. BUT, what exactly was the point of this thread? Why did Siren not join the AA site and take it up with me over there ... I will not apologise for my feelings, Siren has hurt me on many, many occasions, but quite simply the question was asked there. I didn't go out to hurt anyone, I stated my opinion ... MY right.

I happen to feel that this site has indeed changed, you go back and read some posts from Jan/Feb/March of 2000, when there weren't as many members, and I know places grow and I'm happy it has, but people used to really think about what they said before saying it, now people just dive in and say whatever.

I don't feel I'm wrong to have the feelings I have, neither is Siren, but may I just point out that she has done in this thread what she hates ... she has started to stir shit, and because people didn't agree with her see got all uptight about it. If you notice it wasn't until the people I mentioned came on that people agreed with her.

We all have our own right to say what we please, start a thread over here with what you see is wrong with this site and I'll be sure to answer it.

Like I said this is stupid, this is exactly why I don't bother coming here as often, and when I do I don't read everything, I don't spend much time at AA either, my life is changing and I'm learning through life that there are more important things than shit like this to worry about.

We all have the right to think and believe what we like, where we say it and whom we say it too is also our right like JC said, when she closes off and talks to her husband about all of us, is that also going behind someone back ... because we are ALL guilty of that.

 

[Silverlily]

Re: Where's the off switch?

Women! You can't live without 'em and you can't turn 'em off.

Maybe you need to stop getting involved with the battery operated kind.

 

[Wizard]

Your right Nicky the board changes.......It happens we both have been around to watch folks come and go.................As Laurel once said it happens, I have watch so many new folks come in , have to run there posts up right away cause they think the number means something.............................

You were talking about someone and got caught ....................you didn't like it and so your trying to reason you way out of it.....

you gave your opinion and I gane mine...............

 

[Siren]

I have not posted since yesterday But I gotta ask you Nicole

 

[Siren]

I am very sincere in this question I am asking

 

[Comshaw]

Let me make this clear up front, I don't know Nicole, just by a few of her posts. So what I'm about to say references the under laying concept of Siren's post and is not a personal attack on anyone.
For my money, anytime, let me repeat that,ANYTIME I say anything I make sure those involved know what I've said and why. So If I were to go to another board; bitch, moan, complain and bellyache about people here, I would consider that to be two faced and gutless. UNLESS I had already told those here how I felt. Otherwise how would anyone ever be able to trust that what I said was the truth of how i felt and not just something to placate them; While all the time biting them in the ass someplace else?

Posted by jcgirl:


You people are being childish. I'm sure if Nicole thought that speaking her mind on this PARTICULAR topic here would not have gotten her ass flamed than she would have done it. We've all known Nicole a long time. When has she not spoken her
mind. So what if she took it to another board.

If I log off my computer and bitch about you whiners to my husband, am I being mean and bitter behind your backs? No. Because its none of your fucking business what I say to other people. If it was meant for your ears I would have told it to your face.

This is precisely what I'm talkin' 'bout. My grandaddy taught me years ago, if your going to say something about someone, say it to their face and damn the torpedoes. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. This does not mean you have to be cruel with your opinion, only that it should be said directly to whom ever it's about and not around or behind them.

None of our fucking business what you say to other people? If it concerns me, if it's about me, it damn sure is my business!
I take it that it wouldn't bother you in the least if someone was making comments about you, but weren't brave enough to say them to you, and you found out about it? You'd just shrug it off and chalk it up to 'that's the way people are', right? If it wasn't meant for thier ears, it should be said at all.
Personally I could care what's said on another board. But discussions like this give me more facts and fellings with which to judge the credibility of posters.
In other words, those I will listen to and respect their opinions and those I will take with a grain, no make that a shaker full, of salt.
Anyone has the right to say anything they please, whenever and where ever they please, But must also live with all the consequences of their opinions and actions.

Comshaw

 

[jcgirl]

None of our fucking business what you say to other people? If it concerns me, if it's about me, it damn sure is my business!
I take it that it wouldn't bother you in the least if someone was making comments about you, but weren't brave enough to say them to you, and you found out about it? You'd just shrug it off and chalk it up to 'that's the way people are', right? If it wasn't meant for thier ears, it should be said at all.
Comshaw

Yes, basically

 

[Siren]

Re: I am very sincere in this question I am asking

 

[Wizard]

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This is precisely what I'm talkin' 'bout. My grandaddy taught me years ago, if your going to say something about someone, say it to their face and damn the torpedoes. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. This does not mean you have to be cruel with your opinion, only that it should be said directly to whom ever it's about and not around or behind them.

None of our fucking business what you say to other people? If it concerns me, if it's about me, it damn sure is my business!
I take it that it wouldn't bother you in the least if someone was making comments about you, but weren't brave enough to say them to you, and you found out about it? You'd just shrug it off and chalk it up to 'that's the way people are', right? If it wasn't meant for thier ears, it should be said at all.
Personally I could care what's said on another board. But discussions like this give me more facts and fellings with which to judge the credibility of posters.
In other words, those I will listen to and respect their opinions and those I will take with a grain, no make that a shaker full, of salt.
Anyone has the right to say anything they please, whenever and where ever they please, But must also live with all the consequences of their opinions and actions.

Comshaw [/B]

Go Grandaddy...........................Smart man

 

[Wizard]

Re: Re: I am very sincere in this question I am asking

Re: I am very sincere in this question I am asking

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Originally posted by Siren
enough of all this shit........


What is it I did to offend you so much that you feel such anger and resentment towards me a year later?

I am curious to know and more than that....I want to know why you think I hurt you......

Maybe I can apologize for it, if I knew.....This is to make a truce I already know too much water is under the bridge to forge anything else.....

but, I am asking in all sincerity......

What did I do and say to hurt you long ago for which you still harbor so much anger towards me for?

Wont you please tell me?
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I DONT WANT MY QUESTION TO NICOLE TO BE LOST, SO POSTING AGAIN.

 

[Comshaw]

posted by jcgirl

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Originally posted by Comshaw
None of our fucking business what you say to other people? If it concerns me, if it's about me, it damn sure is my business!
I take it that it wouldn't bother you in the least if someone was making comments about you, but weren't brave enough to say them to you, and you found out about it? You'd just shrug it off
and chalk it up to 'that's the way people are', right? If it wasn't meant for thier ears, it should be said at all.
Comshaw
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Yes, basically

Excuse me while I fetch my salt shaker.

Comshaw

 

[Nicole]

This is turning into a war for all, Siren give me 10/15 minutes to email you, it happens to be day time here and I have other commitments here too, I don't sit here waiting for answers.

 

[Siren]

Nicole with all due respect.......

 

[Guest]

Siren if you're going to Vegas you better reconsider. you'll have a lynch mob waiting for you when you get off the plane at the rate you're going.

 

[april-wine]

hmmmmmmm a chicken with a threat how convenient......siren i do hope you reconsider, would be a shame for yout o miss out because of this silliness.......

 

[Dillinger]

Hey Siren - I CAN take you out, get you drunk and help you feel better (you could too Dixon, if you decided to show up in Vegas) but - babe... y'all is gonna have to show up in Vegas for that to happen. And let me tell you something... its worth your time even if I'm the only other person who shows up! *grin*

Now... on to other matters.

I come to Lit because I like it here. I like that its uncensored. I like the friends I've made here. At times I like the debate. I like trading witticisms with assorted odd characters. I like Laurel. I think I would like Manu if he ever acknowledged my existence with a post. I like Literotica and I accept the good and the bad.

I don't post at "that" other board and I don't much care what they say about me. In fact, I'm really fucking pissed I wasn't on that list of people being talked about "behind their backs." Guess its good that I changed my original title "Public Enemy #1" to something else. I must have lost my edge. Ah well.

I'm here because I want to be here. Plain and simple. If I didn't like it I'd leave. I'm not at even that "other" place (as opposed to "that" place) - seems I didn't meet the requirements - even though I am quite familiar with most of the functionings of the #1 requirement - apparently lack of actually personally possessing a vagina makes me ineligible. Ah well.

Something you all should realize about the internet. It should be obvious but its also easy to forget. ANYTHING you post in public (and many things you post in private too) are available to ANYONE... anywhere... anytime (I can show you archives of usenet conversations going back 10 and more years). Anything you've ever said online is available to anyone who wants to find it. Anything you email to someone can be forwarded to someone else. This is not a phone conversation. You ARE being recorded ALL the time. That's the bottom line. (You know - I don't go look at the other site(s) but this has happened before - I know people who have been sent emails from "friends" saying "hey did you see what they said about you at so and so's site" and attach the URL for them to go look at it. Even if someone isn't actively out looking for what's being said about them - someone else will be "kind" enough to tell them about it anyway.)

Perspective. Put this in context. We ALL have at times talked about people behind their backs (good things and bad). It happens. But what you say to some friends in the corner of a bar after a few drinks... on the phone... at the water cooler - is very different than what you say online. If you post something in public on the internet - if you talk about someone behind their backs - then realize that you might as well be saying it right to them. And hey - if you're OK with that - then go for it. But don't think that you're saying something in confidence.

And - for when you find yourself on the otherside of the equation. Hey - We ALL have at times talked about people behind their backs. (WOW, didn't I just say that) - and we will continue to do so - on the phone, in the corner of a bar, at the water coller. And yes, online. That's how people are. We say good things... we say bad things. We hurt people's feelings - sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally. Sometimes we regret it... sometimes we dont. Ah well...

I've said this before - I'll say it many more times. If I don't respect someone - then whatever they say - whether its about someone else or about me - doesn't REALLY MATTER to me. Why should the opinions of someone I don't respect have any affect on me? (Unless its my boss and it keeps me from my next promotion!!! Oh... wait, I didn't say that... Boss - if you're reading this... I like you... I respect you... really I do.)

But in the interests of having a fair playing field. In the interests of full exposure. Just so none of you are blindsided. ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC SITE (and many sites you think are private as well) is available for anyone - ANYONE - anywhere - anytime to read. That means any country - anyplace... 20 - 30 - 40 or more years from now it can still be sitting there for your grandchildren to read. (Waving to Dillinger Jr from the past - I hope you like what your granddaddy has to say here... oh yeah - what are the babes like in the future? I bet the clothing styles are REALLY hot!!!)

I'm sorry that anyone's feelings have been hurt by what happened. I'm sorry that people's feelings have been hurt in the past and will be hurt in the future. Just remember what and who is important to you and put it into perspective. And we can all perhaps learn a lesson and maybe pause a minute before posting something that we may not have fully thought through. And if you've thought it through and still want to post it - go ahead... just don't be surprised if everyone sees it... they will.

(Did I mention I like it here at Lit?)

 

[Nicole]

Okay these are my reasons why.

None of it may have been intentional, but it still hurt me.

Siren in the time that we were friends we did a lot for EACH OTHER, but also in that time you had the ability to make me feel small, belittled, like a stupid small school child that in your eyes never would be good enough, and yes I have been in the wrong to let that sit and stew and not go to you with the problem, but as I just said to you not too long ago, you seem to rail road me when we talk, and also that may not be intentional but again it hurts.

So the way you have hurt me is with your words, which again may not be intentional, but sometimes your words can be scathing, and they do dig deeply.

The problem here is that we are two very different people ... But we are both emotional people.

BUT .... And I will stick by this.

This board HAS changed, take the Unregistered posts in this thread, back in the time I was talking about, this wouldn't have happened, we would have just said what was on our minds and got on with it.

I don't happen to agree with what the unregistered person has to say, but again it's the freedom of speech thing, something that people don't want removed.

Also the question WAS asked on another site, not this one, I only answered what I felt was the truth.

So to you Siren I'm sorry if I hurt you with my words, words I do stick by mind you, but I did have no right to name you and others, so I'm sorry for letting things stew to the point of trying to hurt you at every opportunity I had.

I am sorry.

 

[Siren]

thank you Nicole

 

[registered "^^"]

They outlawed lynching

in vegas......more profitable to slot you too death!

have fun in vegas people!