What is the future of the republican party?

[zipman]

I have a feeling that this mid-term election is going to decide what the republican party is going to become.

There's a fire smoldering in the big tent and the religious right seem to be the match. There's a lot of frustration on the part of the religious right that Bush hasn't vigorously pushed their anti-gay amendment.

There's also a lot of anger from fiscal conservatives to the utter lack of fiscal restraint demonstrated by both congress and the president over the course of the Bush presidency.

About the only core group who isn't pissed at him is big business.

The republicans have abandoned many of their supposed core values over the last 5-6 years, such as fiscal responsibility, small government, american isolationism, etc.

It should be pretty interesting watching what happens.

 

[~hellbaby~]

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[Cap’n AMatrixca]

"Religious Right"

"Religious Right"

"Religious Right"

Sqwack!

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

Sqwack!

 

[zipman]

Considering the approval ratings of Bush and Congress are dropping to the lowest levels in a long, long time, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Personally I think they are going to have to totally embrace the religious right as they really can't run on security, fiscal responsibility, immigration, or much else for that matter.

They are going to have to use the tried and true abortion and gay marriage issues to try and galvanize their base.

 

[zipman]

"Religious Right"

"Religious Right"

"Religious Right"

Sqwack!

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

"Democrats are the Party of Faith too!"

Sqwack!

Breaking News: Republicans declare that if you support gay marriage, not only are you destroying the fabric of American morality, you are supporting terrorism too! Film at 11:00.

 

[zipman]

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It certainly is amusing, although if Cap'n is any indication, the replies by republican supporters is going to be even funnier!

 

[~hellbaby~]

Considering the approval ratings of Bush and Congress are dropping to the lowest levels in a long, long time, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Personally I think they are going to have to totally embrace the religious right as they really can't run on security, fiscal responsibility, immigration, or much else for that matter.

They are going to have to use the tried and true abortion and gay marriage issues to try and galvanize their base.

Some heroics and fearful rhetoric may be in order. Or a miracle of some sort.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Meanwhile, from the Democrat side of the aisle, the ACLU is not only trying to remove religion from government, but the Public Square, and that's supposed to help defeat the Republicfans by demoralizing the Christians...



Plus they want to okay the Catholic Mexican Invasion of of Chocolate Protestant N'Awlins...



Pot is calling out da kettle!!!

Dat's what's funny and why I vote Libertarian...

 

[zipman]

Meanwhile, from the Democrat side of the aisle, the ACLU is not only trying to remove religion from government, but the Public Square, and that's supposed to help defeat the Republicfans by demoralizing the Christians...



Plus they want to okay the Catholic Mexican Invasion of of Chocolate Protestant N'Awlins...



Pot is calling out da kettle!!!

Dat's what's funny and why I vote Libertarian...

Like I said, pandering to the religious right is the only platform you guys have.

If Lit's Libertarians are saying it, the GOP is only a few days behind.

 

[breakwall]

I may not like the Republican party in it's present form, but until the Democrats actually become a viable threat, there's no pressure on the GOP to change.

And the Dems aren't going to be anything to worry about until the next decade.

 

[zipman]

Some heroics and fearful rhetoric may be in order. Or a miracle of some sort.

Maybe an Osama sighting?

 

[zipman]

I may not like the Republican party in it's present form, but until the Democrats actually become a viable threat, there's no pressure on the GOP to change.

And the Dems aren't going to be anything to worry about until the next decade.

I disagree.

The main reason the republicans have done well since 2000 has been 9/11 and promoting an atmosphere of fear.

But the truth about how much "security" they are providing has been destroyed by the ports and border issue.

To many of the swing voters and even the republican faithful, the emperor has no clothes.

They can't bash democrats on fiscal responsibility, security etc. anymore.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

zip, that ties in so well with what I just posted in the other thread that I am going to quote and post it...

 

[kbate]

The problem with Democrats is that they haven't had a new idea since 1938. It's been the same old song and dance for them since Roosevelt.

The problem with Republicans is that they finally got the power they craved for 40 years - and had no idea what to do with it - so they became Democrats and threw money at every issue.

 

[zipman]

The problem with Democrats is that they haven't had a new idea since 1938. It's been the same old song and dance for them since Roosevelt.

The problem with Republicans is that they finally got the power they craved for 40 years - and had no idea what to do with it - so they became Democrats and threw money at every issue.

LOL, I wouldn't say 1938, but the essence of your post is dead on target.

 

[Recidiva]

I can't support the Republicans and the Democrats seem to be investing in hate because they think that's what got the Republicans as far as they did.

I'm writing myself in for the next election.

Considering giving up politics for my health. Sure, I'll argue, but I won't care.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Yeah, how long have I been saying Democrats aren't going to get squat by negativity and name-calling?

You have to develope a positive message with firm goals and methods, in short, instead of claiming to have a plan and refusing to show it because it's brilliance will be recognized and used by the other side to their benefit ala Kerry, you have to take a risk, ala Gingritch, and give people a reason to vote for you and stop calling everything that disagrees with you a Republican...

 

[zipman]

zip, that ties in so well with what I just posted in the other thread that I am going to quote and post it...

Still not a single comment about what the republican platform is going to be, I notice.

Maybe it should be, "We've spotted Osama more times than any previous administration!"

 

[unregistered]

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

If I were you, I'd highlight their lack of a platform by laying out yours first and then calling them on it becasue so far, the plan I see the Republicans proposing is remaining strong on Iraq and Jihad while continuing to shepard a growing economy that it increasing tax revenues and shrinking the debt at the same time the trade deficit is shrinking...

How are the Democrats going to at least continue these trends? Premature withdrawel and tax increases?

 

[Recidiva]

Still not a single comment about what the republican platform is going to be, I notice.

Maybe it should be, "We've spotted Osama more times than any previous administration!"

The folks in power right now aren't Republican so much as doing their own damned thing. This will give real Republicans a chance to be different from them, by actually standing for what they're supposed to stand for.

Whoever is in power, it's going to take a generation to undo the damage done to the law and America's interests, foreign and domestic. They'll have plenty to fix.

My bet is the party itself is going to run on a platform of renewal. I think the Dems are going to get a shot at governing, but if they can't come up with someone to do it intelligently, they're just going to be wasting their time until the Republican business gets it back under their control.

At least Republicans keep the trains going on time. Democrats have been taking the approach of saying how awful we are as people and how we should all be guilty and angry.

 

[ezlay_2nite]

I have a feeling that this mid-term election is going to decide what the republican party is going to become.

There's a fire smoldering in the big tent and the religious right seem to be the match. There's a lot of frustration on the part of the religious right that Bush hasn't vigorously pushed their anti-gay amendment.

There's also a lot of anger from fiscal conservatives to the utter lack of fiscal restraint demonstrated by both congress and the president over the course of the Bush presidency.

About the only core group who isn't pissed at him is big business.

The republicans have abandoned many of their supposed core values over the last 5-6 years, such as fiscal responsibility, small government, american isolationism, etc.

It should be pretty interesting watching what happens.

I think there are more people who have moved to the center than the press let's on...

McCain will herd the far right/left...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Of the top four or five parties, yours is the only one not offering me something to vote for, only something to vote against. Hell, man, I've been doing that for fucking years now...

 

[unregistered]

 

[Recidiva]

I think there are more people who have moved to the center than the press let's on...

McCain will herd the far right/left...

I love McCain, or did. He's showing early signs of selling out. Time will tell, here, but I can't elect him with the price his party's going to expect from him. He'll pay it.