What is the darkest fetish you can put up with hearing discussed?

[HHHawkeye]

Edit: It occurs to me I may have put this on the wrong board. I apologize, I had trouble finding a suitable board for previous topics, found this one fit the most for the last few, and I suppose it slipped my mind that the topic of this one shifted a lot from the last ones.

I'm in a bit of a weird situation and I'm trying to gain some outside perspective on this with regards to my story I'm writing.

Basically, I have a thing for masochistic women. I find it hot when women enjoy being degraded, humiliated and abused. And the weird thing for me, personally, is that I'm turned on by this even if I don't like the actual fetish involved because it's too intense and dark for me. I've found when it just comes down to the idea of seeing a woman fantasize about, eagerly talk about, or get excited at the idea of dark things happening to them, I have a way, way higher tolerance for that than I would about actually seeing those same dark fetishes actually played out in the story.

Getting to the point, I have a story I'm working on that revolves around an island nation populated by a people whose women are so kinky and submissive that slavery is legal and mandatory for all female residents. The degree to how deep this submission goes, however, varies by individual, so they're raised in freedom off of the island and given the opportunity to come back at any time once they're of age, and decide then just how deeply they wish to be enslaved.

While the focus is on those who become slaves and those who are treated like literal animals, I intend to imply, but not show in action, that this has basically no limits, and that there's almost no fantasy so depraved that a man can't find a woman willing to be subjected to it. And as the main character is filming a documentary about the country, I've been debating the concept of having her at least briefly talk to one of the women who fantasizes about the kinds of fates even more intense than being treated like dogs or cows or beasts of burden.

The main issue is that I'm worried that my tolerance for women fantasizing about darker fetishes is just me being weird, that most people have an equal amount of disgust for a fetish being talked about and a fetish being put into practice in a story, and that my audience would rather I not show these women in any capacity at all. So I thought I'd ask: When it comes to someone discussing or anticipating something rather than actually seeing the thing play out, how dark does the fetish need to go before the mere act of discussing it would make you uncomfortable?

 

[UsuallyPresent]

Personally my preference is something that makes my partner sit up and drool happily at the very idea. Given the breadth of human sexuality, to say nothing of the many times broader realm of sexual fantasy, there will always - ALWAYS - be acts I’m not willing to participate in. Of the rest, I’ll be purely unskilled at or otherwise incapable of meeting my partner(s) expectations/hopes/desires.

How dark can I comfortably talk about? Privately a lot deeper with people I’ve learned to trust than on an open, public board!

That being said, someone who enjoys spankings that hurt even a little is a masochist, technically. As are people into branding, needleplay, or pick your own more extreme example. So you’ve got a very broad range of potential actions. For S&M, personallly I rate it roughly by damage done, from light pink skin to hot red to bruising to, well, potentially much worse, sometimes permanent. My general line in the sand is blood - keep it inside - and fairly short healing times - a few days at most. It has varied wildly, usually much lighter, sometimes messier. A lot is depending on acts, the people, situation, etc - and I’m very much aware I’m way beyond the pale for some and awful weaksauce for others.

Talk it out. Nothing, but nothing, is more important than clear, honest communications before people start letting the horniness free.

IMO, YMMV.

 

[LupusDei]

Actual acts of no pleasure and/or involving permanent damage will likely not be accepted on this site, talking about such may be a slippery slope. Perhaps keep descriptions from becoming too graphic and language clear that hypothetical actions are discussed.

How far it can go? What's the worst some people accept as fantasies?
If you think you have stable enough psyche search the word "Dolcett"
(zizki[dot]com/dolcett lists some of the originals I believe)

Don't hold it against me if you did go there. You're warned. Yes, that's seriously nuts.

Now, well... in the right mood, I can get off even to that (yes I know), even specifically to the completely sociopathic angle and the weirdly suppressed emotions of those girls, the "eww, oh well, sure" attitude.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Any sort of female domination human toilet play. Some people are into it, and I can understand how the utter degredation and submission would be a turn on for people who are into that. But lets be honest, that activity is simply too gross and or graphic for most people. It makes people outright squeamish. Also, Forced bisexuality from a female domme/male slave perspective is pretty taboo and makes most people very uncomfortable; or in other words, the so called "Fag Cuck Shit" dynamic which so often leads to angry readers responding with everything from insults to outright death threats against the author.
I am really not into non-consentual rape fetishes at all, though. Or any of the ones which are (thankfully) banned on this site.

 

[ky81nea]

Edit: It occurs to me I may have put this on the wrong board. I apologize, I had trouble finding a suitable board for previous topics, found this one fit the most for the last few, and I suppose it slipped my mind that the topic of this one shifted a lot from the last ones.

I'm in a bit of a weird situation and I'm trying to gain some outside perspective on this with regards to my story I'm writing.

Basically, I have a thing for masochistic women. I find it hot when women enjoy being degraded, humiliated and abused. And the weird thing for me, personally, is that I'm turned on by this even if I don't like the actual fetish involved because it's too intense and dark for me. I've found when it just comes down to the idea of seeing a woman fantasize about, eagerly talk about, or get excited at the idea of dark things happening to them, I have a way, way higher tolerance for that than I would about actually seeing those same dark fetishes actually played out in the story.

Getting to the point, I have a story I'm working on that revolves around an island nation populated by a people whose women are so kinky and submissive that slavery is legal and mandatory for all female residents. The degree to how deep this submission goes, however, varies by individual, so they're raised in freedom off of the island and given the opportunity to come back at any time once they're of age, and decide then just how deeply they wish to be enslaved.

While the focus is on those who become slaves and those who are treated like literal animals, I intend to imply, but not show in action, that this has basically no limits, and that there's almost no fantasy so depraved that a man can't find a woman willing to be subjected to it. And as the main character is filming a documentary about the country, I've been debating the concept of having her at least briefly talk to one of the women who fantasizes about the kinds of fates even more intense than being treated like dogs or cows or beasts of burden.

The main issue is that I'm worried that my tolerance for women fantasizing about darker fetishes is just me being weird, that most people have an equal amount of disgust for a fetish being talked about and a fetish being put into practice in a story, and that my audience would rather I not show these women in any capacity at all. So I thought I'd ask: When it comes to someone discussing or anticipating something rather than actually seeing the thing play out, how dark does the fetish need to go before the mere act of discussing it would make you uncomfortable?

well i can tell you that i talk dirty to my partner when i am pleasuring her cum you fucking bitch you know you want to.. and it usually works lol and i will say things like make me your cum whore, so not sure if that will help or not.

 

[Nuff_Said]

"Dolcett"

I'm not sure, but isn't "Queen Snake" on the top of the insane?

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

There are scenarios seen by some as "erotic" which simply leave others cold, mystified and shrugging. Expecting any kind of agreement worth the name on this, as with so many other matters linked to eroticism, is naivety bordering on stupidity. You find this out quite quickly when going down the route of chatting with an emailing partner. Pretty soon you discover that it's lucky to find any overlap of interests, let alone agreement on what might be a stimulating "dark fetish".

 

[ky81nea]

anything can be.. because we are all soooo different and some people are quite sheltered, they have no clue what is really out there. i mean in some countries around the world they actually have bruffles where it is legal to have sex with animals. they see it as fine. a lot depends on the culture in which you are brought up in. For some people who are terribley shelted. having sex in any postion other than missionary is wrong. they feel they must be covered and not see the nude bodies. some fetishes are far fetched and yes i am sure there are others out there that have them, the best thing to do is find a munch around you and go to those. if they still have them due to this stupid covid. you meet such neat people and find that actually each person has something.. Oh the munches are done by the BDSM community. it does NOT mean you have to be into pain. it is just so neat to be around people who do not judge you for your kink

 

[gunhilltrain]

anything can be.. because we are all soooo different and some people are quite sheltered, they have no clue what is really out there. i mean in some countries around the world they actually have bruffles where it is legal to have sex with animals. they see it as fine. a lot depends on the culture in which you are brought up in. For some people who are terribley shelted. having sex in any postion other than missionary is wrong. they feel they must be covered and not see the nude bodies. some fetishes are far fetched and yes i am sure there are others out there that have them, the best thing to do is find a munch around you and go to those. if they still have them due to this stupid covid. you meet such neat people and find that actually each person has something.. Oh the munches are done by the BDSM community. it does NOT mean you have to be into pain. it is just so neat to be around people who do not judge you for your kink

I think I've said that it's always somebody else's fetishes that seem weird; one's own are fine. That said, Dolcett, with cannibalism and bizarre suicides, is certainly very dark. But weirdness has been part of art and literature since, I suppose, the beginning - Poe, de Sade, Hieronymus Bosch, etc., etc. Someone was recently unsettled when I mentioned Bosch's paintings in one of my stories. A character guesses that he might have had an interest in BDSM (and sex in general) that he covered with religious imagery, but who can say for sure?

The really scary stuff is what happens in real life, and I mean more than a few insane people like Jeffrey Dahmer and Ed Gein. I mean just about every war and genocide ever perpetrated. Take your pick: it never ends.

One event I find notable was the interest in Holocaust porn in Israel fifty to sixty years ago.

Holocaust porn

 

[ky81nea]

I think I've said that it's always somebody else's fetishes that seem weird; one's own are fine. That said, Dolcett, with cannibalism and bizarre suicides, is certainly very dark. But weirdness has been part of art and literature since, I suppose, the beginning - Poe, de Sade, Hieronymus Bosch, etc., etc. Someone was recently unsettled when I mentioned Bosch's paintings in one of my stories. A character guesses that he might have had an interest in BDSM (and sex in general) that he covered with religious imagery, but who can say for sure?

The really scary stuff is what happens in real life, and I mean more than a few insane people like Jeffrey Dahmer and Ed Gein. I mean just about every war and genocide ever perpetrated. Take your pick: it never ends.

One event I find notable was the interest in Holocaust porn in Israel fifty to sixty years ago.

Holocaust porn

yes i must agree with u 150%

 

[gunhilltrain]

yes i must agree with u 150%

100% would have been fine!

 

[FamilyCruiser]

An all night orgy. Group sex at Point Barrow Alaska from November to January.