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ABSTRUSE

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A pattern in rural school shootings: girls as targets


NICKEL MINES, PA., AND BOSTON - The scene Monday at the buff-colored, one-room schoolhouse in the gentle heart of Amish country was wrenching, but also distressingly familiar.

One of four fatal school shootings to beset rural America in just over a month, the rampage that killed five young girls raises anew a host of old concerns - about campus security in countryside settings, access to guns by unstable individuals, and "copycat" violence advanced by media attention.

They are startling incidents against the backdrop of declining numbers of school fatalities. But this premeditated attack, like another one five days earlier in which a drifter corraled teenage girls, killing one, at the high school in Bailey, Colo., have an unusual and disturbing feature: girls as targets.

"The predominant pattern in school shootings of the past three decades is that girls are the victims," says Katherine Newman, a Princeton University sociologist whose recent book examines the roots of "rampage" shootings in rural schools.

Dr. Newman has researched 21 school shootings since the 1970s. Though it's impossible to know whether girls were randomly victimized in those cases, she says, "in every case in the US since the early 1970s we do note this pattern" of girls being the majority of victims.

The two cases are reminiscent of a 1989 shooting in Canada, when a jobless hospital worker killed 14 female engineering students at the University of Montreal, accusing them of stealing jobs from men, says Martin Schwartz, an Ohio University sociologist and an expert on violence against women. He sees such incidents as related to a culture of violence against women, "a mutation - something beyond."

In Bailey, an armed drifter walked into Platte Canyon High School last Wednesday, ordering men out and sexually assaulting some of the six girls he held hostage, shooting one before killing himself. In this week's tragedy in Pennsylvania's bucolic Lancaster County, the gunman ordered boys and adults to leave, bound the 10 girls, and shot them, then himself.

p>Another similarity between the Pennsylvania and Colorado cases - as well as two other recent school shootings in Vermont and Wisconsin - is their rural settings. It is rare for mass school shootings to occur in cities, Newman says. Despite their safe image, rural communities can be an especially fertile breeding ground for revenge, she and others agree.

"People think small towns are safer, but in a small community grievances can fester," says Cheryl Meyer, a professor of psychology at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio, who has researched similarities of school shootings in rural and small towns. "It's so often about revenge. Even if something happened 20 years ago, it doesn't mean it is gone. People talk about it and everybody remembers. It just trails after you."

Such a motive may have factored into Monday's shootings in the tiny hamlet of Nickel Mines, Pa., police say.

Flanked by corn fields and a few white oaks, the Amish schoolhouse could have been lifted out of the 19th century. With no guards, chain-link fence, or "drug-free zone" signs - or even a telephone - it seemed a world apart.

The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts, lived just down the road with his family in a double-wide trailer. He hauled milk from Amish farms at night, usually before the next day's milking began about 4 a.m. A co-worker says he might never have met the farmers he serviced. Then, he would take his children to school.

On Monday, however, he left suicide notes for his family, then drove his pickup truck to a school he no doubt passed many times on late-night milk routes. He brought to the school a semi-automatic pistol, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a 12-gauge shotgun, and a rifle - along with restraints, lumber to block the doors, and a change of clothing.

In a scene that seemed to echo the Bailey shooting, the gunman ordered boys and school aides out, then bound 10 girls ages 6 to 13. He called his wife on his cellphone.

Police arrived after a teacher ran for help to a nearby farm. They called him on his cellphone, but no answer. Then the gunman opened fire, and police stormed the barricaded building, breaking through windows.

Five of the girls died at the scene or at hospitals. At press time, officials said five remained in critical condition.

Law-enforcement officials, working to unearth Roberts's motive, said Tuesday that sexual assault seemed the most likely one. In a suicide note, they said, Roberts recalled an incident 20 years ago when he, a pre-teen at the time, molested younger children. The note indicated he had been haunted by dreams about molesting young girls, police said.

"I don't think it was an attack on the Amish community, but a target of opportunity," Col. Jeffrey Miller, commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police, said Monday. "It was almost impenetrable," he said of the barricaded school. "His goal was to be in there for an extended period of time. He was hunkering down for a hostage-related siege."

'Copycat' concerns
The apparent similarities between the Bailey and Nickel Mines shootings - and their close proximity in time - raise experts' concerns about "copycat" attacks.

News media bear some responsibility for this phenomenon, says James Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston. This is especially the case when attackers' personalities and grudges are exposed to high-profile public analysis - as when two teenage attackers in the Columbine attack were featured on the cover of a news magazine, he says.

"We've seen with school shootings and postal shootings that the shooters can become role models for others," Dr. Fox says. "While most sympathize with the victims, others empathize with the shooters. It's the publicity they get that turns the shooter into a celebrity that spawns more of them."

Some see in the latest school shootings echoes of the 1980s, when there was a spate of carefully planned attacks on students by adults from outside the schools.

Between 1988 to 1989, there were nine premeditated attacks by adults targeting schoolchildren, says Fox. In those cases, however, there was no pattern of girls being targets - a new wrinkle. To him, that year stands out for its "contagion of adults who got even with society by killing its most beloved members - schoolchildren."

While national crime statistics show a steady drop in the murder rate, including violent school fatalities, there seems to be fewer incidents but "more spectacular stuff going on," Dr. Schwartz says. "Splashy violence is what's going up, even though crime as a whole going down. The only thing not going down is fear engendered by these types of high-profile events."

A community banding together
In Nickel Mines, the news media showed up almost as promptly as police - within minutes jamming the narrow streets and nearby fields with satellite trucks, television crews, and crane-high lights.

For grieving Amish families, driving past the crime scene late into the night or talking quietly in small groups nearby, the fierce media glare came as a shock to a community that resolutely avoids the spotlight.

"I was irate when I first heard about the school, then the hurt started," says an Amish fireman, who helped maintain a security perimeter around the school late Monday night. He says local firemen and policemen had expected a crush of news media, because of the intense public interest in school shootings. But, he adds, "we never expected to have to deal with it here."

"It's unbelievable. We never expected that anything like this would happen," says Ruth, a Mennonite neighbor who wanted to give only her first name.

"I don't understand it, but it's not from God," says Fannie Beiler, another Mennonite. "He wants us to love one another."

There are scores of such schools in the quiet farming communities around Lancaster County, a center for the Old Order Amish in the United States. An estimated 28,000 Amish live in the area - of about 200,000 nationwide.

Amish families live simply - no cars, electricity, cellphones, or iPods - and grieve quietly. A keystone of their faith is pacifism. When a young Amish boy in the next town of Bart was killed on his way to help a neighbor with the milking by a hit-and-run driver two weeks ago, there was no talk of lawsuits. Nor did Amish families join their "English" neighbors in calling for a new sign cautioning drivers to slow down.

In Bart, Paula Flinn set up a hand-painted sign on her front lawn for their Amish neighbors, who drove past the house in closed, black buggies at a rate of 50 an hour, some late into the night, after the shooting. Her sign reads: "Our prayers and thoughts are with you."



Makes you stop and think. I feel my children's schools are safe, but are they? Are rural communities safer than bigger cities? makes you wonder how safe we are, not just from foriegn threats but from domestic threats as well.
 
Abs, no offense, but this sort of thing is exceedingly rare.

It's the targets, Amish school children, and the media spotlight that magnify this event.

In the short time since that horrid event a lot more kids have died in car accidents and accidents in the home.

The world, in many ways, is much safer than it used to be. Especially here in the West. Don't let an isolated, media saturated event upset your perspective.

*HUGS*
 
rgraham666 said:
Abs, no offense, but this sort of thing is exceedingly rare.

It's the targets, Amish school children, and the media spotlight that magnify this event.

In the short time since that horrid event a lot more kids have died in car accidents and accidents in the home.

The world, in many ways, is much safer than it used to be. Especially here in the West. Don't let an isolated, media saturated event upset your perspective.

*HUGS*
Just sorta makes you wonder considering there were three school shootings in a weeks time, Ya know?

I guess people are just nuts and that's that.
 
ABSTRUSE said:
Just sorta makes you wonder considering there were three school shootings in a weeks time, Ya know?

I guess people are just nuts and that's that.

A quirk of statistics, plus maybe a little copycatting because of media attention.

If there were three such incidents a week for ten years, then I'd be concerned.

For example, they mentioned the Marc Lepine incident in the article. That was in 1989. We had a vaguely similar incident here in Canada a couple of weeks ago. That's two in seventeen years. So it's not the kind of thing I worry about.

I am very careful stepping off the curb though. Drivers I worry about.
 
rgraham666 said:
A quirk of statistics, plus maybe a little copycatting because of media attention.

If there were three such incidents a week for ten years, then I'd be concerned.

For example, they mentioned the Marc Lepine incident in the article. That was in 1989. We had a vaguely similar incident here in Canada a couple of weeks ago. That's two in seventeen years. So it's not the kind of thing I worry about.

I am very careful stepping off the curb though. Drivers I worry about.
Hell yes!! Death machines abound!!!
 
I've had a knife pulled on me twice at work - by a kid on both occasions.

People are going crazy, and they're going crazy younger.
 
scheherazade_79 said:
I've had a knife pulled on me twice at work - by a kid on both occasions.

People are going crazy, and they're going crazy younger.
Don't forget the killer Alpacas. :cool:
 
There has never been a time when life was risk-free, and never will be. Utopia is not an option. That said, others have commented on the rarity of such events. Media "distill" bad events, making them seem more common than they are. Perspective is needed to not become unbalanced by such things.
 
Roxanne Appleby said:
There has never been a time when life was risk-free, and never will be. Utopia is not an option. That said, others have commented on the rarity of such events. Media "distill" bad events, making them seem more common than they are. Perspective is needed to not become unbalanced by such things.
I'm in agreement with Roxanne.

There might well be a Zeitgeist that goes with such things, just as there is a Zeitgeist for what's in fashion in sports, clothing, music or food. For example, in the 70's there were bomb threats at schools. It happened a few times, got lots of media attention, then stopped, very like streaking. Strange as it may sound, there can be "fads" in people doing crazy things, including how nuts decide to kill people.

But even given that, such things are not common or frequent. I'd be more afraid for the children in inner city schools where kids deal in drugs, belong to gangs, have guns or knives, than I would be afraid that some random nut is going to come in and start shooting.

I think the Amish have the most admirable and best outlook on this of any group to suffer such a terrible tragedy. And that is that they're not going to let this destroy or change their community. They won't be installing a phone in the schoolroom, or adding in guards or metal detectors as they did at Colombine. Because they understand that this was one crazy guy. And there is no predicting who or when or how in such instances.

There is no sure way of preventing such rare (if terrible) acts from ever happening, not unless you want fear of it happening to run your life.
 
What's safe these days? The womb. That's where safety begins and ends, in my opinion.

There's too much tragic shit happening in the world today for me to believe otherwise.
 
Maybe I'm just getting oldster's disease, but there seems to be a hell of a lot more rage in the world than there used to be 20 or 30 years ago. I think in general life is a lot tougher to handle and people are more likely to snap.

I think the Baily, Colorado case and the Amish killings were basically sex crimes of some horrible sort, but I'm not even shocked anymore when I hear about people going on violent, unprovoked rampages. I just feel like there's so much pent-up anger and tension in society in general, that things move so much faster, that there's so much coming at us so fast under such pressure with so much competition, that people snap and lash out.

I guess it bothers me that it doesn't surprise me. And I don't think there's much we can do about it.
 
Aurora Black said:
I'm sorry. I should have thought before I said that. :rose:
No! I love that you said it. It made me smile. Because you're partly right. It is safer than what is out "there" :rose: :rose:
 
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