What if Obama really had turned out to be the POTUS those to his left hoped/expected?

[KingOrfeo]

Would his chances of re-election now be better, or worse?

 

[TexasWife25]

Would his chances of re-election now be better, or worse?

better
because he would be able to count more on
the support from the left.

Im not saying the left are suddenly going to
vote republican

However.. they dont have to go out and vote at all...

 

[KingOrfeo]

Would the country be better now, or worse?

 

[phrodeau]

Considering he was an inexperienced, non-American, communist Muslim, he's done a pretty good job.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Thanks! You gave me a terrific plot bunny!

 

[KingOrfeo]

Considering he was an inexperienced, non-American, communist Muslim, he's done a pretty good job.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

I know. But liberals are still pissed because he (1) wouldn't shut down the Guanatanamo Bay prison, signed the bill authorizing indefinite detention of citizens, etc.; and (2) let Wall Streeters have a seat at the table, and even in his Admin, when trying to sort out that mess.

 

[ChinaBandit]

He's fumbled the ball on most of the plays from scrimmage.

What else can you say?

 

[alltherage]

The only difference between the so called left and the so called right is the speed at which corporations get what they want. I dont think his positions matter to the left so much as those of the right do. They will vote for Obama because they fear the right more than they are angry at him.

 

[renard_ruse]

Would his chances of re-election now be better, or worse?

The fags think he's grrrrreat! First fag President.

 

[KingOrfeo]

He's fumbled the ball on most of the plays from scrimmage.

What else can you say?

You can say something that does not involve sports metaphors.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The only difference between the so called left and the so called right is the speed at which corporations get what they want.

I know. But, I'm positing for debate here a hypothetical scenario in which, for this one Administration at least, that were not entirely true.

 

[kotori]

Would his chances of re-election now be better, or worse?

In spite of everything, he won't lose any votes on the left. I mean what is the alternative? Stay home and let the lunatics run the asylum?

 

[Liar]

Depends on what you mean those to his left hoped.

Is it that he hasn't been left enough? I don't think that hurts his reelection chances much. Far more damning, is the complaint that he hasn't been forward enough. There are enough people who don't vote for ideology, but for leadership. As long as one of the candidates aren't batshit bugnuts, they'll vote for whoever appears strongest.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Depends on what you mean those to his left hoped.

Is it that he hasn't been left enough? I don't think that hurts his reelection chances much. Far more damning, is the complaint that he hasn't been forward enough. There are enough people who don't vote for ideology, but for leadership.

Look, Obama succeeded in getting some kind of health-care package, where Clinton failed. He got practically all he demanded in stimulus-packaging. Abroad, he dealt with the Egyptian Revolution as well as a POTUS could have, really did get us out of Iraq and put an end to neocon dream of empire there, and he helped tip the balance in the Libyan Civil War at no cost in American lives. Oh, and got bin Laden, how many years did W have to do that? You can't say he hasn't been forward enough.

 

[Liar]

Look, Obama succeeded in getting some kind of health-care package, where Clinton failed. He got practically all he demanded in stimulus-packaging. Abroad, he dealt with the Egyption Revolution as well as a POTUS could have, and he helped tip the balance in the Libyan Civil War at no cost in American lives. Oh, and got bin Laden, how many years did W have to do that? You can't say he hasn't been forward enough.

Sure, if you look at this record. Reality and appearance ain't the same thing. He got stuff done internationally by measured approach and soft diplomacy. He got stuff done domestically by mediation and congressional sausage churning. Neither is very, for the lack of a better word, photogenic.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

"What if Obama really had turned out to be the POTUS those to his left hoped/expected?"

He was not, is not and will never be.

If wishes were wings pigs would fly and I'd be richer then Warren Buffett.

Pig still walk, I'm still broke and the President still is in way over his head.

Mike

 

[richard_daily]

Would his chances of re-election now be better, or worse?

He's getting re-elected regardless of what the left think of his disappointing showing in his first term... So it's a moot point.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Would the country be better now, or worse?

If Obama had turned out to be the President those on his left had hoped, the country would be far worse off.

Bin Laden would still be alive.

Afghanistan would have been left for the Taliban to retake and for Al Qaeda to have safe haven in if they could have cut a deal with the Taliban.

All the detainees in Guantanamo would have been released or acquitted in civilian trials and the facility would have been closed.

The debt would have been an additional $5 to $10 trillion dollars for green energy projects and further government "stimulus."

His re-election prospects would even be worse than they are now because all of the above irresponsible acts are no more appealing to political moderates than they are to conservatives. The one saving grace of American politics is that extremists, be they left or right, find it difficult to command a sufficiently large base of support.

That's why they're referred to as extreme.

 

[unregistered]

 

[TexasWife25]

Would the country be better now, or worse?

I dont think so..
Its never good for the country to be dominated by one party or the other.
If you look back, typically our most prosperous times where when power
has been balanced, one party in congress, the other as president.

If the left got everything they wanted, we'd be far worse off.
If the right got everything they wanted, we'd be far worse off.
Different paths, same shit hole.

 

[richard_daily]

If he had turned out to be what the left fully expected, he'd probably would have been booted back to Chicago long ago to reprise his role as "Community Organizer."

you old white folks already tried that, remember? It's called the "tea party".

How did that work out for you?

 

[unregistered]

 

[richard_daily]

It managed to dump 80 of you fuck ups out on the street last time around.

Sorry, I'm an independent... But I just caught you admitting that you were a tea bagger...

Enjoy Obama's 2nd term, loser.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I dont think so..
Its never good for the country to be dominated by one party or the other.
If you look back, typically our most prosperous times where when power
has been balanced, one party in congress, the other as president.

If the left got everything they wanted, we'd be far worse off.
If the right got everything they wanted, we'd be far worse off.
Different paths, same shit hole.

Them days is over.

 

[The_Trouvere]

I wanted a second Franklin Roosevelt and a new New Deal. I wanted someone who could out think and out maneuver the Republicans.

He needed to reduce the unemployment rate before moving on health care. If he had restored the good economic numbers of the Clinton administration he would be looking forward to a landslide reelection.