what if America hadn't entered WWII...

[Problem Child]

...what would have happened? What would be the worst and best consequences evolving from our non-participation in that long and bloody war?

Personally, I think the worst thing would have been that the Nazis would have taken over and held onto Europe for a long time, perhaps even until the present day, holding the good citizens of that continent in opression and slavery, denying them their civil rights and an opportunity to live and travel freely.

Millions more jews, gypsies and homosexuals would have died. The Germans might have conquered Russia as well, and had untold additional millions to condemn to a life of misery in their slave labor camps.

The U.S. would probably not be as prosperous, because it would have taken longer for us to get out of our depression, and our economy would never have gotten the huge boost it got from the war. Our trading commerce with a Nazi europe would probably be limited at best, if it existed at all, hampered by extreme tariffs.

We would be denied the joys of vacationing in europe, as well as having to live with decreased tourist revenue from all the europeans not allowed to come here.

We probably wouldn't get to enjoy buying Mercedes and Lamborghini's, and people in a Nazi dominated europe wouldn't be buying our goods.

We would have to spend a huge amount on defense to guard against further Nazi agression, constantly on alert for attacks...and we would be constantly embroiled in third world wars of agression with the Nazi controlled puppet stakes, much like in the cold war with the USSR, only a Nazi empire would be more powerful, as they would control all of Europe AND Russia.
We certainly would have a much greater fear of nuclear war if the Nazis held all that power.

All in all, I think the world would obviously be a much worse place to live, and I'm pretty darn happy our grandfathers were willing to go and do their duty in Europe to help stop the Nazi menace.



On the other hand though, if the Nazi's ruled Europe, p_p_man probably wouldn't have access to a computer.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

There's a pretty good alternative history novel called "Fatherland" that answers that very question.

 

[Siren]

I agree with PC 100%

 

[registered "^^"]

Bond........Adolf Bond

Just doesn't sound right!

 

[lavender]

 

[Problem Child]

For all of you sitting down and getting ready to pound out a long reply, it was really just a setup for the punchline.

Please don't waste your time on serious rebuttals.

 

[Siren]

Ah you young whippersnappers

 

[Siren]

I knew that PC

 

[p_p_man]

Punchline?

There was a punchline?

 

[Doulton]

Ya know, for you all to feel so threatened by P P Man, and to have to resort to petty attacks such as this...

Oh, and I agree with Lavender. Whatever the exact outcome of the war, I don't think the Nazis would have lasted long.

 

[Orlanth]

If the USA was not in WW2. Then the Japs would have invaded us Australians. And that is one thing I do not want.

I know alot of other tings would happen as well.

And no, I am not racist towards the Japs.

 

[Aussie Worm]

I always thought the war in Europe was drawing to a close time the USA entered. Not that it matters, some people don't like the USA because they isolated them selves from the war and pretended it wasn't happening for so long.

I don't know about anywhere else in the world, but some of the older people in Australia still hold a grudge against the Japanese, but its not strong enough to really mean anything.

 

[Closet Desire]

Isolation...

I'm amused that some think the US would have only been affected by economics had it not entered the war.

If the US had not entered the war it could very well have been New York or Washington rather than Hiroshama that was the first target of an atomic attack.

The US entered the war with a weak military, out dated planes and armor, and poor organisation. It's industrial strength allowed it to come up to speed quickly and shift the balance--not only to the benefit of Europe but also to its own benefit.

 

[alexander tzara]

What if Elvis had never played the UK?
Oh, yeah - he didn't. Somehow we survived.

What if the Beatles hadn't bothered playing America?
You'd still be listening to Pat Boone, puffing on pipes and wearing checked sweaters. Hahahaha.

Oh, yeah - you still are. =o)~

 

[Cheyenne]

For all of you sitting down and getting ready to pound out a long reply, it was really just a setup for the punchline.

Please don't waste your time on serious rebuttals.

And what a great wind up it was, too!

LMAO!

 

[p_p_man]

From the top of my head and...

without looking up any facts I think that America would have succumbed to the jackboot before 1950.

England could possibly have lasted another year maybe two (at one stage our food supply was down to one week so I'm assuming that we would have received food from somewhere).

Not taking into account the guerrila war that was already planned during 1940-41 (Churchill's secret army as it was popularly known as when facts of its existence finally emerged), Churchill would have been executed as a war criminal and England would have thrown its lot in with Germany. With England taken, Germany would have been able to concentrate on the Soviet Union which could probably have carried the war for a further 2 years up to 1945-46 until Germany's A-Bomb was made public. Then the Soviet Union would have surrendered and the vast oil fields of Siberia would be free for the taking.

There would have been no news about Penemunde (sp) and so the rocket technology would have continued without destruction. As would have the heavy water experiments in Norway and Germany would have had the Atomic Bomb and a means to deliver it to the United States and the Soviet Union by about 1945-46.

America would have still suffered at Pearl Harbour but the Axis powers would now be able to concentrate on one enemy only and so the USA would probably have surrendered by 1945-46.

As Hitler saw the world in simple images he always thought that with a Nazi controlled Europe and a British controlled Empire the two countries were made for each other. He wanted nothing more than to proclaim Germany as Leader of the World with Britain as an equal partner bringing in the colonies. In fact secret talks were meant to have taken place before 1937 with just that type of proposal on the agenda. With Britain on Germany's side Japan would have had no choice but to relenquish its grip on the territories it had gained and become just another subservient nation.

Germany would have forged a new one party super state (formerly known as the World) peace would have eventually come about as more and more countries threw their lot in with the New Order and we would all be walking around speaking German and probably more affluent than we are today. With the early rocket technology continuing unabated, the huge fund of scientific talent, and the massive resources available we would have broken into space on a large and more organised scale in the 1970s-1980's and colonisation of Mars would probably be in its infancy by now.

It paints a rosy picture if America had stayed out of the Second World War and had just surrendered when its time came.

But to do even the tiniest fraction of what I've written above the regime would have had to be completely ruthless, which of course we know it was, carrying out its progroms with impunity until society was carved in the image of the vision of its creator, Hitler.

I personally wouldn't have lasted being of non- Ayrean features and being born at the wrong time, and countless other millions would also have died with me. But who knows? Germany may well have relaxed its policies on race etc by the 1980s. And Hitler would probably be dead of natural causes.

Leaving behind not a bad world to live in.

Myself I'm pleased America eventually decided to join the fight, it gave me a chance to annoy Problem Child!

 

[miles]

PeePee stepped in doo-doo

we would all be walking around speaking German and probably more affluent than we are today



You're being facetious, aren't you? Am I supposed to take a bite of that bait?

Please, tell me you're joking.

 

[p_p_man]

Miles...

read back. dis ain't a "fer real" t'read...

s'just dat PC and me is poppin' ad each udda.....

capice?