What I don't get re pro-Russian collusion Dems/people

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Is that it is quite easy to PROVE Russian foreign illegals' activity with Trump associates - and yet I have never seen anyone even vaguely make the case even though it is there to be made.

That Veselnitskaya thing is utter rubbish and a scam by the FBI themselves; but there is a real case that can be made and I'm astonished that no one has gotten even close: it has to do with O* R*schild and some other prominent New York socialites who are large donors to the arts along with Trump - and they have all had almost never-ending damn 'meetings' and attended lots and lots of functions with Kremlin ministers and embassy officials. Anna Chapman used to have (admittedly it was in Russian) a video on-line about how to use social media and create 'expanding populations in social networks and groups to influence politics' for years!! There is no question but that she met 'certain lawyers' when she was detained in New York. The fact that the court appointed those lawyers is just a sophisticated trick spies use to get access and not be blamed for initiating that access. It's the same thing as what is going on now, whereby 'virtually' whistleblower FBI agents WANT to be subpoena'd so that they can safely spill the beans on Comey and Mueller.

Seriously. I don't get you Soros trolls - you're either complete idiots or not committed to your tasks. Nobody could be that stupid as to pretend to foam and froth at the mouth and claim 'Russia collusion' and then come up so phuking empty-handed, when all the evidence in the world is right there in front of you if you just looked hard enough.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

It's almost more like there are people - be they actual Soros trolls or just plain vanilla Dems - who are so pissed they lost the election that they are now just beating drums without any actual substance of their own for real...

It's like the animus is so great, it has clouded their minds and their judgment and turned them all into lazy fools who spout off with no research, no facts, no evidence, no reasoning, no nuttin' just sloganism and yelling.

 

[phrodeau]

There is plenty of direct evidence that members of the Trump campaign conspired with and accepted assistance from Russians to influence the election.

Where it currently falls short is that nothing yet goes directly to Donald Trump. The operatives of the Trump campaign will be punished, and some of the damage will eventually be repaired, but the beneficiary of their crimes gets to keep his seat, unless the clear connection can be made that he was personally involved.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Yeah that's partly true, but the way it's heading now I don't think anyone WILL be even slightly penalized on the Trump side.

Far from it in fact, it's looking more and more like a case is being made that Mueller is party to a criminal conspiracy to procure a coup d'etat.

And I think don't doubt it that this is where things are heading.

Flynn is already about to be discharged by the courts from the railroaded plea of 'guilty' to lying by Mueller just manufacturing a transparent perjury trap, Cohen and even Manafort will actually get off because Podesta and Hillary did the same thing and were never charged for the exact same offense even though both also failed to file those foreign lobbyist transaction forms - and for much larger sums - so the courts will be persuaded by the case for bias due to deliberate unequal application of the law; these new 'whistleblower' FBI agents who have agreed to testify for Manafort and Cohen will see to that.

Oh no. Believe me on this one - Mueller is going down! So is Rosenstein and so are Comey and Brennan.

And to think, indeed it all has been because of some very sophisticated Russian Intelligence officers giving strategic advice and 'other support' to Trump and his team; including colluding with certain ex-US Military ranking officers who absolutely HATE Obama and Hillary, especially after Benghazi.

It must seriously be just so galling. Because basically, this whole thing is ended now and Mueller is dead in the water over the Sir Richard Dearlove/Hakluyt and Halper spying into Trump scheme.

I mean there are literally photos of Halper at the Cosmos Club where Obama is also a member...

It's finished. The game is over.

 

[KeithD]

We're in the middle of an investigation in which you aren't one of the investigators, Desire, and we've already had convictions. And you are purposely being blind and stupid about this. So sad--and pathetic.

 

[oggbashan]

The view of the UK's security services is that Russia is trying to influence any and all genuine democratic elections to try to destabilise western institutions and confidence in electoral systems.

From Russia's point of view it seems who their activities support is irrelevant. It is the destruction of trust in free and fair elections that appears to be the aim.

 

[phrodeau]

Yeah that's partly true, but the way it's heading now I don't think anyone WILL be even slightly penalized on the Trump side.

Far from it in fact, it's looking more and more like a case is being made that Mueller is party to a criminal conspiracy to procure a coup d'etat.

And I think don't doubt it that this is where things are heading.

Flynn is already about to be discharged by the courts from the railroaded plea of 'guilty' to lying by Mueller just manufacturing a transparent perjury trap, Cohen and even Manafort will actually get off because Podesta and Hillary did the same thing and were never charged for the exact same offense even though both also failed to file those foreign lobbyist transaction forms - and for much larger sums - so the courts will be persuaded by the case for bias due to deliberate unequal application of the law; these new 'whistleblower' FBI agents who have agreed to testify for Manafort and Cohen will see to that.

Oh no. Believe me on this one - Mueller is going down! So is Rosenstein and so are Comey and Brennan.

And to think, indeed it all has been because of some very sophisticated Russian Intelligence officers giving strategic advice and 'other support' to Trump and his team; including colluding with certain ex-US Military ranking officers who absolutely HATE Obama and Hillary, especially after Benghazi.

It must seriously be just so galling. Because basically, this whole thing is ended now and Mueller is dead in the water over the Sir Richard Dearlove/Hakluyt and Halper spying into Trump scheme.

I mean there are literally photos of Halper at the Cosmos Club where Obama is also a member...

It's finished. The game is over.

When you pile bullshit on top of bullshit, you only get a bigger pile of bullshit.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

What this tells me is that Trump knows he's going down. He knows it's baaaaad. He knows it will lead to impeachment and removal from office.

Yeah that's partly true, but the way it's heading now I don't think anyone WILL be even slightly penalized on the Trump side.

Far from it in fact, it's looking more and more like a case is being made that Mueller is party to a criminal conspiracy to procure a coup d'etat.

And I think don't doubt it that this is where things are heading.

Flynn is already about to be discharged by the courts from the railroaded plea of 'guilty' to lying by Mueller just manufacturing a transparent perjury trap, Cohen and even Manafort will actually get off because Podesta and Hillary did the same thing and were never charged for the exact same offense even though both also failed to file those foreign lobbyist transaction forms - and for much larger sums - so the courts will be persuaded by the case for bias due to deliberate unequal application of the law; these new 'whistleblower' FBI agents who have agreed to testify for Manafort and Cohen will see to that.

Oh no. Believe me on this one - Mueller is going down! So is Rosenstein and so are Comey and Brennan.

And to think, indeed it all has been because of some very sophisticated Russian Intelligence officers giving strategic advice and 'other support' to Trump and his team; including colluding with certain ex-US Military ranking officers who absolutely HATE Obama and Hillary, especially after Benghazi.

It must seriously be just so galling. Because basically, this whole thing is ended now and Mueller is dead in the water over the Sir Richard Dearlove/Hakluyt and Halper spying into Trump scheme.

I mean there are literally photos of Halper at the Cosmos Club where Obama is also a member...

It's finished. The game is over.

 

[Hypoxia]

What this tells me is that Trump knows he's going down. He knows it's baaaaad. He knows it will lead to impeachment and removal from office.

And then state and federal prosecutors can go after his USA and Russian mob links, money scrubbing, various conspiracies, etc. He's already confessed to obstruction. Have fun in Danbury, Donnie.

Oh yeah, Mar-a-Lago will be confiscated. Maybe turned into a refugee camp. Funny.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Trump will never go quietly. He was prepared to burn down the country if he had lost the election. He has far more power to do that now.

 

[phrodeau]

And then state and federal prosecutors can go after his USA and Russian mob links, money scrubbing, various conspiracies, etc. He's already confessed to obstruction. Have fun in Danbury, Donnie.

Oh yeah, Mar-a-Lago will be confiscated. Maybe turned into a refugee camp. Funny.

Mar-a-Lago is a national historic landmark. Maybe someday it will be completely run by the Dept. of the Interior for the edification of all Americans, not just those with two hundred grand to spare.

 

[Oblimo]

Oh no. Believe me on this one - Mueller is going down! So is Rosenstein and so are Comey and Brennan.

You know how some people wear rose-colored glasses? When Trump descended the escalator to announce his candidacy, he handed out a few million orange-colored glasses. Your pair looks mighty snazzy.

I’m not saying I believe there was collusion or that I’m confident Mueller is going to lead Trump away in irons or anything like that. In fact, I’m actually not sure what the investigation is going to conclude.

One thing I am sure of, however, is that the US populace no longer exists in a shared reality. I watch Fox News, try to listen to conservative talk shows and you goobers, and the things I hear alleged as facts sound like anything but to me. I like to think the worldview spun up by the White House and its allies is the one with the most bullshit, but thanks to my own biases I can’t be sure.

Still, the more certain you claim to be, the more comfortable I am with dismissing your claims as the view from behind orange-colored glasses.