What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[busybody..]

So none of those signatories would have voted on Cain's plan to set the marginal tax rate on individuals at 9% because the marginal tax rate on half the people is now zero?

beats me

AXE them



BTW, (I am hoping you are smarter than that)......the 9-9-9 is a great idea and would have been a NEXT TAX REDUCER

 

[JohnnySavage]

beats me

AXE them



BTW, (I am hoping you are smarter than that)......the 9-9-9 is a great idea and would have been a NEXT TAX REDUCER

I agree, but it violates the pledge and if those who signed the pledge take it seriously, the plan was DOA

I want the income tax eliminated in favor of a consumption tax. But that will never happen either.

 

[busybody..]

I agree, but it violates the pledge and if those who signed the pledge take it seriously, the plan was DOA
.

No

It doesnt


9-9-9 is a net TAX DECREASE






So I see when you posted before you were "busy" with FOOTBALL

You were full of shit

You just couldnt/didnt wanna POST the pledge

Its OK

I KNEW THAT

 

[busybody..]

I agree, but it violates the pledge and if those who signed the pledge take it seriously, the plan was DOA

I want the income tax eliminated in favor of a consumption tax. But that will never happen either.

foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of simple minds..... R Waldo Emerson

So the point that it violates teh pledge is an untruth

BUT AS YOU SAY

"YOU" KNOW THAT


Good back to the TELLY, where BIG BLACK guys try to smash a hapless WHITE GUY

 

[JohnnySavage]

No

It doesnt


9-9-9 is a net TAX DECREASE






So I see when you posted before you were "busy" with FOOTBALL

You were full of shit

You just couldnt/didnt wanna POST the pledge

Its OK

I KNEW THAT

I did post the pledge. It's the very first thing in the link

9-9-9 violates the pledge because it raises the marginal tax rate on some individuals.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I guess BB can't be bothered to click, so here's a c&p from the link:


Taxpayer Protection Pledge
I, _____, pledge to the taxpayers of the (____
district of the) state of ______ and to the American
people that I will: ONE, oppose any and all efforts
to increase the marginal income tax rate for
individuals and business; and TWO, oppose any
net reduction or elimination of deductions and
credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further
reducing tax rates.

 

[busybody..]

I did post the pledge. It's the very first thing in the link

9-9-9 violates the pledge because it raises the marginal tax rate on some individuals.

you posted it AFTER I AXED a few times

it raises the TAX on SOME people....those that PAY ZIP.....but LOWERS it for so many MANY more and leads to an economic explosion


Something that MUST be avoided....per LIBZ/DUMZ/NIGGERS



I note

YOU havent responded to this

Can't you at least concede that making a pledge to support NIGGER CARE before they even read it, knowing that MOST of it by their OWN admission WAS HARMFUL violated their obligations to the cuntry........do you sign shit WITHOUT reading it?

I realize you are a homer for the NIGGERS and DUMZ and LIBZ, but you're also a smart guy. Take off your cheerleader outfit for a minute and tell me what YOU think, for a change

 

[busybody..]

I guess BB can't be bothered to click, so here's a c&p from the link:


Taxpayer Protection Pledge
I, _____, pledge to the taxpayers of the (____
district of the) state of ______ and to the American
people that I will: ONE, oppose any and all efforts
to increase the marginal income tax rate for
individuals and business; and TWO, oppose any
net reduction or elimination of deductions and
credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further
reducing tax rates.

Please tell me you are NOT that dumb

Re-read everything I wrote

 

[JohnnySavage]

you posted it AFTER I AXED a few times

it raises the TAX on SOME people....those that PAY ZIP.....but LOWERS it for so many MANY more and leads to an economic explosion


Something that MUST be avoided....per LIBZ/DUMZ/NIGGERS



I note

YOU havent responded to this

Can't you at least concede that making a pledge to support NIGGER CARE before they even read it, knowing that MOST of it by their OWN admission WAS HARMFUL violated their obligations to the cuntry........do you sign shit WITHOUT reading it?

I realize you are a homer for the NIGGERS and DUMZ and LIBZ, but you're also a smart guy. Take off your cheerleader outfit for a minute and tell me what YOU think, for a change

I responded to the last paragraph. The leech on society, eyer even took a jab at my response (although as a leech on society, his opinion doesn't count. He should get a job and pay some taxes to be entitled to an opinion)

You want me to talk health care?

The answer there is to combine all the federal programs... medicare, medicaid, VA, Tricare, Chips, the plan for the federal employees... Make it one national plan, let everyone buy into it if they want, with premiums set based on ability to pay not age or medical conditions.

Problem solved.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Please tell me you are NOT that dumb

Re-read everything I wrote

I'm reading the plain language of the pledge. If you need a lawyer to mealy-mouth the plain words so you can justify violating it, you shouldn't have signed it in the first place.

 

[HAL_9000]

You want me to talk health care?

The answer there is to combine all the federal programs... medicare, medicaid, VA, Tricare, Chips, the plan for the federal employees... Make it one national plan, let everyone buy into it if they want , with premiums set based on ability to pay not age or medical conditions.

Problem solved.

A voice of reason. Why do the democrats always seem to start with a good idea, and then fuck it all to hell? (Making it mandatory)

Obviously health "care" is a necessity in modern society, on par with food, water, clothing, and shelter. What is the reason for the insane inflation of healthcare costs? Administration? PharmCos? Malpractice insurance? A combination?

 

[JohnnySavage]

A voice of reason. Why do the democrats always seem to start with a good idea, and then fuck it all to hell? (Making it mandatory)

Obviously health "care" is a necessity in modern society, on par with food, water, clothing, and shelter. What is the reason for the insane inflation of healthcare costs? Administration? PharmCos? Malpractice insurance? A combination?

Conversely, the Republicans demonize a federal system, and refuse to acknowledge that half the population is already covered under a federal program.

Combine all the various federal programs and take advantage of economies of scale. Let everyone join, keep their private plan (you should be able to opt out of the federal plan, which you can't do now with medicare), or not have insurance.

Then, exempt non-insured medical expenses from bankruptcy discharge. If you chose not to have insurance, you can't discharge those debts by taking advantage of the B/R laws.

 

[busybody..]

I'm reading the plain language of the pledge. If you need a lawyer to mealy-mouth the plain words so you can justify violating it, you shouldn't have signed it in the first place.

No DUMMY

You talked about teh PLEDGE,

I axed you to post it 2 times

3 times you DIDNT, and once you said it had to do with some BURLY BLACK MEN attempting to hurt scrawny white guys

I persisited, as you knew I would

You finally posted teh PLEDGE

and I AGREE WITH THE CONTENTS of said PLEDGE

 

[JohnnySavage]

No DUMMY

You talked about teh PLEDGE,

I axed you to post it 2 times

3 times you DIDNT, and once you said it had to do with some BURLY BLACK MEN attempting to hurt scrawny white guys

I persisited, as you knew I would

You finally posted teh PLEDGE

and I AGREE WITH THE CONTENTS of said PLEDGE

I agree with a pledge to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Anything else is political pandering.

 

[busybody..]

Conversely, the Republicans demonize a federal system, and refuse to acknowledge that half the population is already covered under a federal program.

Combine all the various federal programs and take advantage of economies of scale. Let everyone join, keep their private plan (you should be able to opt out of the federal plan, which you can't do now with medicare), or not have insurance.

Then, exempt non-insured medical expenses from bankruptcy discharge. If you chose not to have insurance, you can't discharge those debts by taking advantage of the B/R laws.

I think SS should have a means test.....I think that persons that have X assets and or X plus income....regardless of age.....or have earned X number over teh years SHOULD NOT HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY or HEALTH CARE on teh gumnit dime.....Yes, despite them paying into it

I think SS taxes should be lowered for all those that make X or less and increased steadily for those that make over X.....And should be triple of more for actors/sports people etc, that make millions.....they should pay into a general fund for health care distrubted amongst all people.....

 

[busybody..]

I agree with a pledge to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Anything else is political pandering.

Why DEFEND a FLAWED DOCUMENT?

Tell me

Its OK

I'll wait

 

[busybody..]

Why DEFEND a FLAWED DOCUMENT?

Tell me

Its OK

I'll wait

You do know taht in 01

NIGGER said it was FLAWED, right?

or you gonna pretend it aint so


OH, ARENT TEH BLACK BURLY MEN CHASING THE WHITE PEOPLE NOW?

 

[JohnnySavage]

I think SS should have a means test.....I think that persons that have X assets and or X plus income....regardless of age.....or have earned X number over teh years SHOULD NOT HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY or HEALTH CARE on teh gumnit dime.....Yes, despite them paying into it

I think SS taxes should be lowered for all those that make X or less and increased steadily for those that make over X.....And should be triple of more for actors/sports people etc, that make millions.....they should pay into a general fund for health care distrubted amongst all people.....

SS should be means tested for eligibility.

I'd eliminate the cap on contributions, but leave the rate the same.

Also - half the SS recipients aren't old people. They are disabled and/or minor survivors.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Why DEFEND a FLAWED DOCUMENT?

Tell me

Its OK

I'll wait

You do know taht in 01

NIGGER said it was FLAWED, right?

or you gonna pretend it aint so


OH, ARENT TEH BLACK BURLY MEN CHASING THE WHITE PEOPLE NOW?

It is flawed; by design. It's the bones and the founder's left it to the courts to put the meat on it.


I have no idea what you are talking about with the black burly men.

 

[busybody..]

I have no idea what you are talking about with the black burly men.

Football

 

[busybody..]

SS should be means tested for eligibility.

I'd eliminate the cap on contributions, but leave the rate the same.

Also - half the SS recipients aren't old people. They are disabled and/or minor survivors.

increase the rate for million airs

its time to re evalute the daffy nition of disabled as well

welfare should be stopped after 5 years

NO QUESTIONS AXED!

 

[JohnnySavage]

Football

I'm watching the native americans.

 

[JohnnySavage]

increase the rate for million airs

its time to re evalute the daffy nition of disabled as well

welfare should be stopped after 5 years

NO QUESTIONS AXED!

I thought it was

Don't you only have a set number of years of eligibility, thanks to Clinton?

 

[busybody..]

I thought it was

Don't you only have a set number of years of eligibility, thanks to Clinton?

i dunno

Sorry

 

[busybody..]

Nothing to see here

Move along

Just watch the NATIVE AMERICANS get slaughtered


AGAIN


Right SHITTER SAVAGE?


GOING GALT: Kennewick Construction Company Auctions Itself Off.



It took Bob Bertsch 25 years to build his construction business and just a day for it all to go away.

Bertsch’s Kennewick-based Ashley-Bertsch Group went on the auction block Friday at 9 a.m. By 4 p.m., Booker Auctions had sold off almost two dozen vehicles and trailers, tons of power tools and supplies, even the gas-fired fireplace in the office.

Bertsch, 65, said he is down-sizing because the tax burden got too expensive to stay in business.

After a quarter of a century of building a successful enterprise at 5903 W. Metaline Ave., Bertsch sat back and watched as about 200 people bid on what was left of his company — boxes of electrical parts, a drafting desk, high-end office furniture, TVs, computers and even the phone system.

Anything that could be carried away, was.

“I am tired of carrying all the tax load,” Bertsch said. “I renew 13 licenses here every year just so I can spend money in this city.”

Bertsch makes no attempt to conceal his frustration with the costs government imposes on small businesses like his.

“Government is killing small business. We used to have 24 employees at our peak. Now, all of those people who used to work here are in unemployment lines,” he said.

Hope and change.