What do you really think about bisexuals?

Pick as many as you like

  • Bisexuality is no less valid than homosexuality or heterosexuality

    Votes: 92 70.8%
  • Bisexuals may spend time in the queer community but most end up with members of the opposite sex

    Votes: 22 16.9%
  • Bisexuals are really gay but are still clinging to their straight identity

    Votes: 6 4.6%
  • Bisexuals are responsible for most of the diseases in the gay community

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Most people who consider themselves 'bi' are just sexually indecisive

    Votes: 9 6.9%
  • The ubiquitous other

    Votes: 13 10.0%

  • Total voters
    130

Never

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Sometime around my fifteenth year of life I stumbled upon a poem by Sappho:

Some say that the most beautiful thing
upon the black earth is a company of horsemen;
others say a host of foot-soldiers, others, a fleet of ships;
but I loveth everyone.


Now, I'll be damned if you can find the last line translated like that anywhere else but her words stuck this 15-year-old Never's fancy. I decided to read the poem to my mother, as was my habit, and she suggested I not share that particular poem with the people at school. (Wise, given the previous problems this other habit had brought about)

The conversation that followed ending with my mother saying the only part of it that I remember distinctly: Bisexuals are wishy-washy. (Don't be wishy-washy. Buy Albert's Dishy-washy)

That was when I learned that bisexuals are people who can't figure out if they're gay or straight.

Then I turned 17 and managed to convince a 40-year-old woman I knew online that I was much older than 17. Legal, even. She considered herself bisexual but still flirted with me but became upset whenever I told her she was gay. Her anger was enough to work it into my head that one should never say that someone bi is gay because it's offensive.

From her I learned that bisexuals are lesbians who sleep with men.

When Nora and I broke up (oddly enough, it was around the time she learned my age.) I wandered the web until I began to stalk, ah, woo this other bisexual named Elizabeth. She eventually led me to Literotica where I became immersed in a world of decadence and perversion. Elizabeth identified as a submissive and sent me naked pictures of herself.

From her (and Lit) I learned that bisexuals are lesbians with overclocked sex drives. This causes them to sleep with women and men and to try most every sexual act they can, especially those that involve being tied up and spanked.

As you can image, Never's head was spinning. She had to have one of these bisexual creatures in the flesh. They were like lesbians only they didn't have bad hair cuts! They had sex drives that made men pale in comparison!

Well, as fate would have it, Never did hook up with one in the flesh and she had a nice hair cut and a great sex drive.

What did she learn then? Bisexuals are straight women with overclocked sex drives who BREAK NEVER'S HEART AND LEAVE HER FOR A PENIS.

Oh, I thought they were so wonderful but I had been tricked. These were evil creatures and not to be trusted. If you're out dancing they'd rub against you, until the men looked away. Yes, these bisexual women were everywhere – typically with their boyfriend or husband in tow. The bitches even looked down on lesbians; as if having the rest of society consider you ugly and masculine wasn't bad enough, here was part of the queer community doing the same.

It's difficult to stay hateful for long. I'm good for about five seconds and then I get worn out and need to take a break. In Never's perfect world, everyone would be bisexual. I find my inability to be attracted to men irritating. I also find it charming when someone honestly says they love "the person, not what's in their pants." It's almost virtuous.
 
what i have always wondered is, is someone bisexual if they are sexually attracted to both sexes, but romantically only to one?

or for that matter, does homosexual or hetrosexual mean one is only physically attracted, or romanticlly attraced and physically attracted to the specific gender?

I find myself physically attracted to both men and women, but i am only capable of having a long-lasting, romantic relationship with a woman. does that make me bisexual? or just a heterosexual who enjoys sex, no matter the gender?

languages can be so damn inadequate
 
Personally, I think homo-sexual and hetro-sexual peeps are those only attracted to both physically and emotionally to the specific gender. I myself am 'bi', and I hope that doesn't mean I just can't make up my mind. I am attracted to women but I have been out with a guy before, and, the honest to God truth was, if it had just been physical, I probably would not have had the nerve to even talk to him let alone do anything else. We were very close, to the point we were falling in love with each other.
I think those of us who are Bi-sexual can just see people for what they are, people. It doesn't matter if they have dangly bits or not, I would fall for a really nice person who respected and treated me well be it a guy or girl, but hey, thats just my opinion.
 
Prime said:
what i have always wondered is, is someone bisexual if they are sexually attracted to both sexes, but romantically only to one?

or for that matter, does homosexual or hetrosexual mean one is only physically attracted, or romanticlly attraced and physically attracted to the specific gender?

I find myself physically attracted to both men and women, but i am only capable of having a long-lasting, romantic relationship with a woman. does that make me bisexual? or just a heterosexual who enjoys sex, no matter the gender?

languages can be so damn inadequate

Actually, english is quite sufficient in this case, and many others, but I digress.

There are different kinds of bisexuals.
 
i agree with stu there are quite a few different types of bisexuals

i'd be nervous about entering a relationship with a bisexual ... i'm sure it could work out but its difficult to know what type of bi person they are ... as much as they might like me are they going to start wanting things i can't offer them ... are they going to accept the pressures of being in a same sex relationship when they have easier options :)

plus theres also the more minor issue of me perhaps getting jealous about them being attracted to guys ... i actually enjoy my gf being attracted to other girls ... but i'm not sure i would enjoy hearing about her being attracted to guys (their so icky)

Never said:
I also find it charming when someone honestly says they love "the person, not what's in their pants." It's almost virtuous.

i agree it sounds virtuous ... but sometimes i've found it annoying ... and i'm not sure if i believe it when a bisexual says they love the person not the gender (unlike you weak willed straights and gays :))

although i must admit i have met some true androgynous people who maybe make me believe they do maybe just fall in love with the person

i guess i just find it unbelievable because although i believe in gender equality i still think our genders do help make up our characters


PS great post never :) ... there are some OK lesbians out there too by way :p
 
To follow your example,

In 7th grade, I learned that it was very uncool to tell another girl you thought they were beautiful.

But in 9th grade, I learned that bisexuals were girls who wanted to be popular.

In 11th grade, I learned that not thinking about what the words were for what you were doing and just doing it is generally the easiest way to go.

Guilty as charged for the rest. Go away, heartbreakeeeer!
 
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sexy-girl said:
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i agree it sounds virtuous ... but sometimes i've found it annoying ... and i'm not sure if i believe it when a bisexual says they love the person not the gender (unlike you weak willed straights and gays :))

although i must admit i have met some true androgynous people who maybe make me believe they do maybe just fall in love with the person

i guess i just find it unbelievable because although i believe in gender equality i still think our genders do help make up our characters


PS great post never :) ... there are some OK lesbians out there too by way :p

Wasn't sure if this was a dig at what I said, probably isn't. I wasn't saying that straight and gay people don't love a person for the person but that by the definition, they love a person of a set gender. Homosexual people love people of the same gender, straight people love people of hte opposite gender, bi people? well they seem to love people of both. maybe its being greedy but i didn't mean to come across as saying any gender or orientation is weaker or stronger.
 
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Harrowborg said:
Wasn't sure if this was a dig at what I said, probably isn't. I wasn't saying that straight and gay people don't love a person for the person but that by the definition, they love a person of a set gender. Homosexual people love people of the same gender, straight people love people of hte opposite gender, bi people? well they seem to love people of both. maybe its being greedy but i didn't mean to come across as saying any gender or orientation is weaker or stronger.


i hadn't actually read your post when i posted ... but i might of disagreed with some of what you said :)

its difficult for a lesbian to understand bisexuality though ... and likewise though its difficult for a bisexual to understand homosexuality

but i guess if a bisexual girl said to me she loved the person not the gender ... i would just have to ask do they think my lesbian love for my girlfriend is somehow different from their bisexual love for a girl ... because i find it difficult to see how it would be
 
Fair enough, I don't think its that hard to understand really although not being a girl I'm not gonna be able to understand the ins and outs of what would happen. I think its as simple as if a Bi girl said she loved you, she would love you. Would that then make her a lesbian and not bi? maybe. Just the same as if you then broke up and she dated a guy? would that make her straight?. I'm not saying love is different between people of different sexual orientations just that,well, you said it yourself, 'guys are icky' or somethign along those lines, it doesn't seem like you could love a guy. I have gay mates who think girls are icky. Somewhere along the line theres a compromise.
 
I don't see how anyone can select any of those choices in that poll.... How can you have an opinion about someone you don't personally know... I don't care for labels at all... I deal with the person themselves..... I think it's very lame that people have to fit themselves into certain categories.....

Never.. you "broke-up" with someone you never met? that's your first problem... putting emotions, needs, wants, and attachments in connection with people on the net who you have never met in real life....

Plus lying to someone about your age? yikes... not a good way to start and not a good way to try to gauge how you feel about certain issues pertaining to your sexuality.....
 
Bisexuals are great. No, don't argue. Yes we are. We shouldn't have to deal with all you boring monosexuals out there!

I have to say, I find it vaguely hard to understand being straight or gay. I mean, if anyone here was to specify the sort of person that they could fall in love with (physical descriptions excepted) I would bet that out there in the world are people of the same gender who fit the bill. Seriously, I've never met anyone who hasn't said that they fell in love with whoever they've fallen in love with because of who they were, not how they looked. So why should gender be an issue?

Of course, I understand that some people just aren't attracted to those of the same gender. I just don't really understand why.
 
My personal belief is that most bisexuals only have a physical attraction to the same sex. They can (and desire to) have a romantic relationship with the opposite sex, but not with a same-sex partner. I believe this is because for most bisexuals the desire is just not there for a deep longterm amorous relationship with a same-sex partner. Besides a possible close friendship, the physical attraction is basically all there is to it. They're "bi-sexual," but not what I like to call "bi-amorous."
 
In response to Pookie:

This is the case for some bisexuals. But not all of us! I firmly believe that it is possible to be both physically and romantically attracted to members of both sexes. Admittedly, there are many bisexuals who are (as you said) merely bi in a sexual way. But, as I have said, this is not the case universally - and I hope you would agree.
 
Regis2001 said:
I have to say, I find it vaguely hard to understand being straight or gay. I mean, if anyone here was to specify the sort of person that they could fall in love with (physical descriptions excepted) I would bet that out there in the world are people of the same gender who fit the bill. Seriously, I've never met anyone who hasn't said that they fell in love with whoever they've fallen in love with because of who they were, not how they looked. So why should gender be an issue?


you think gender has nothing to do with who the person is?
 
you think gender has nothing to do with who the person is?

Hmm. Tricky one. Yes, gender has something to do with it. But there is far more to any person than that. Gender is a physical thing, and while your gender certainly impacts on your personality, I think that all the other factors which also impact on it outweigh gender.

Suffice to say, I think that love goes beyond physical boundaries, cheap and tacky though that may sound.

Also, I generally feel vaguely suspicious about people who feel their gender is important beyond practical concerns (politics and biology, mostly). Being male or female doesn't have to be important when deciding how one should think or act.
 
Regis2001 said:
In response to Pookie:

This is the case for some bisexuals. But not all of us! I firmly believe that it is possible to be both physically and romantically attracted to members of both sexes. Admittedly, there are many bisexuals who are (as you said) merely bi in a sexual way. But, as I have said, this is not the case universally - and I hope you would agree.

I did say "most," not all. And from my experiences, I believe this is true. "Bisexual" by most definitions is a physical/sexual attraction. This doesn't necessarily equate to love though. I know bisexuals that are only interested in the sexual aspects of being with the same gender. There is no desire on their part to be in a romantic relationship. I can understand how homosexuals could easily be burned by pursuing a romantic relationship with a bisexual who only has a physical attraction for the same sex. But as I said, not all bisexuals are this way. Some can very easily fall in love with a same-sex partner, and have long-term amorous relationships.


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Why do people have a hard time with bi-sexuals? It's about definition, bi-sexuals can have relationships with both sexes...No clear concise definition....As much as we fight the power for labels, people feel more comfortable with labels....That is a nice heterosexual, or homosexual....OOOOhhhhh bisexual leaves the proverbial market doors wide open....

My girlfriend is I guess bi-sexual, having had long term relationships with men, even marrying one....But I know, and she knows that our relationship is the most fulfilling she has ever known, so really how should she or I define her....Me I settle with MINE, she has some more to learn about herself before she reaches for any label.....
 
OMGosh! I must be a weirdo. ;) I understand bisexuality, homosexuality, heterosexuality, and a few other variations. Sexuality is fluid and made up of and defined by different things. When I'm monogamous with a man, society identifies me as hetero. When I'm dating a woman, "they" call me a lesbian. *I* call myself open minded, and my friends and loved ones call me by my name.

There's a whole interesting spectrum out there. Gays like people with the same plumbing as themselves. Kind of like using a remote at someone's house when it's the same as yours. You already know what all the buttons do. Straights either were brought up that way, and haven't deviated, or genuinely like exploring foreign buttons. And there's a whole slew of difference in between.

I am someone who crushes on a person, rather than a genitalia. The body parts that interest me most are eyes and hands. And most everyone has those!
 
I have to agree, it seems like many of you are forming opinions based on a few experiences and stereotypes. You simply can't apply those opinions to bisexuals as a group, or even "most bisexuals" because you don't know all or most bisexuals. If you're going to do that, I don't see how you can be upset when people make outrageous statements about all or most gays and lesbians, ethnic groups, or anything else.

Sex and relationships...I don't know if I would have a successful LT relationship with a woman because I've never had the opportunity to try. What I do know is sex isn't at the top of my list for why I am attracted to women (or men for that matter), and I'd love to have a relationship with a woman that's as loving and strong as the one I have with my husband.
 
Bisexuals are straight women with overclocked sex drives who BREAK NEVER'S HEART AND LEAVE HER FOR A PENIS
What's wrong with women liking a bone-hard penis know and then?
 
SweetErika...
I like your way of thinking... these "generalizations" and labels aren't good for anything...

I don't really care what people consider me to be.....

sometimes I love to be with a man...but strictly in the sexual sense.... Sometimes I just crave cock and love to please a man sexualy...

BUT... I don't think I could ever fall in love with a man....and definitely not have a long-term relationship with one....

and if people need to group me in the category of being "gay" or "bisexual" well they can just do that if that makes them feel better....

So this "poll" about bisexuals is a tad on the ridiculous side....
 
SweetErika said:
I have to agree, it seems like many of you are forming opinions based on a few experiences and stereotypes. You simply can't apply those opinions to bisexuals as a group, or even "most bisexuals" because you don't know all or most bisexuals. If you're going to do that, I don't see how you can be upset when people make outrageous statements about all or most gays and lesbians, ethnic groups, or anything else.

Sex and relationships...I don't know if I would have a successful LT relationship with a woman because I've never had the opportunity to try. What I do know is sex isn't at the top of my list for why I am attracted to women (or men for that matter), and I'd love to have a relationship with a woman that's as loving and strong as the one I have with my husband.

Well, I'm bisexual. I've had more than a "few" experiences, and have been around more than a few bisexuals. Based on my experiences, I feel very comfortable with what I stated above. Because of my experiences, I feel I'm in a much better position than most people would be to make my assessment. Granted, I'll never know "all" or "most" bisexuals, but that's really far from necessary.
 
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