FurryFury
Addict of Sensation
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XXplorher said:True enough. But in the case of erotica…
I already fuck myself plenty (me and my unruly appendage have an excellent relationship). When I’m writing erotica I don’t want to just jack-off. AS I’m writing it, I’m explaining things to myself – via the natural reactions of the characters I’m inhabiting. So while the purpose is very much to transfer belief and satisfaction to the reader? I wouldn’t bother to undertake the piece unless there was some knowledge in it I wanted to discover and understand. Thereby making it more visceral and satisfying for me than an exclamation mark to my own tetherball session.
You mentioned you did an anal erotica thing beFORE you went for the actual package (pun intended). I’m thinking you found yourself convinced once you were through drawing it out, that’s something you now understand and you want to experience for real. And you’re now glad you did? Hey – mission accomplished! (Not that we should all run out and try all this crazy shit we’re funneling through a keyboard). You used the transfer to page to discover. Rather than write down what you ‘already know’.
I’m actually stepping OUT of myself – rather than taking what’s already sure of itself and hammering you with it (in fact, my most satisfying stuff was written from a female perspective. I like being that deep inside her). Since I am, in fact, one stubborn bastard? And I think I’m ‘right’ more often than I possibly could be. Tackling sexual situations I don’t “know”…
Is perhaps on a similar level of satisfaction for me – as letting go of all your responsibilities is for you. It’s humbling. (Unfortunately, it’s also educational. So when I’m finished? I’m even more arrogant than I was when I started. Ooops (I much prefer the word ‘ego’ to arrogant. But some would claim one is more accurate than the other)).
In short… When I’m having sex I’m not just giving her what I already know. I’m listening to her body and finding out what she is. Same thing when penning erotica.
And that’s why I can’t go trashing people when I suddenly think to do so. Cuz I don’t have all the information. With the above information I would ABSOLUTELY support what you’re doing then. Permission from those who could be harmed was granted – and the results benefit him. Which means you’re out there doing exactly what I support – exploring your sexuality with a firm belief it’s your right to do so.
There are dangers in that as well though. Sex is the most complicated of all things (delicious). Sometimes it’s not always productive. Sometimes people want re-occurring harm forced upon them, likely in an effort to remove the guilt of past sins/experiences. And I don’t think I’m for that. It hurts me to see that. Which is another of the reasons I barked at you. Sometimes a kiss is not what you need to cure where the damage is occurring.
However, as you mentioned, I’m well aware many subs are unusually strong-willed women. They just want a chance to drop the decisions to someone else and free them up to relax. I get that. But a lot of these ‘subs’ just want to be harmed. Period. And that bothers me. (Bothers me about a lot of the world, actually). I can very much appreciate you prefer the term ‘help-mate’.
What am I after? Respect. And Equality! (Like your husband). And since I’m such an arrogant prick – that’s a tall order. And I like a lot of drool. Lots and lots of droooooool (it’s all Jenna Jameson’s fault).
So… wanna cyber? (I’m kidding!!)
Thanks for your kindness,
XX
Hi XX,
You are most welcome for the kindness! I'm glad we can talk now, in a nicer way!
Drool? Um, well, I rarely drool though I understand gags are good for that. I have no idea who Jenna Jameson is. A porn star maybe? I don't watch porn. It's the words that do me. I think I sometimes drool when I'm really drunk or drugged and sleepy as hell.
You are after mutual respect and equality in a RL sexual romantic relationship right? Then subs are not right for you, I'm thinking. I often tell my men friends. Start off with someone who seems normal then find their naughty bits later! I have some friends who always wanted the girls that "looked bad." Those bitches were mean and not often faithful. Most of my male friends eventually did what I told them and hooked up. I think there is a nasty girl inside most of us.
See in our relationship, I have never been a sub. We are equals. We do respect and like each other a very great deal. I mean I've loved people who I really didn't like. This is far better. It's because of that love and respect, that we do things for each other. It's to give sensation and joy to the other person as they will do for you. I like this very much.
Sometimes I'd like to experience the whole Master/sub thing very much. I won't because he is not into it. I treasure him above my own deeply felt interests in this area. I think the give and take we have is a wonderful thing. I love our relationship and would never want to damage it.
I like to try things in general. Sometimes when I try them I am done and ready for the next thing. Bungee cord jumping and the chain trick (twice) for instance. Sometimes I want to do these things over and over. Like Anal for instance. I just never know what I will say, "Oh okay done that, next!" and what I will say, "Oh! Yeah! More!" about.
Personally I don't know if you are, as you say an "arrogant prick" of what your definition of it happens to be. That could certainly mess up a relationship if you are quick to judge and/or down on yourself as well.
I don't judge others even if they want to be harmed. I do not want to be harmed as I have said. Not significantly anyway, but with the right person I trusted, there is little I wouldn't do for him. He knows that. He has no desire to hurt me. Part of my struggle with the spanking was that he didn't understand how that could feel like sensation and not pain. Until I showed him. *grins*
Yeah I know there are dangers with what I am doing and what I'd like to be doing. What saves me so far is his great ability to communicate with me and not be ego centric or judgmental but supportive. That and the fact I am careful to not go where we would possibly be jeopardizing the relationship even if I have his express permission and support.
Each time we talk I am blown away by his love, self awareness, liking of me and generosity. I can't say enough what that means to me. Men have always liked my looks, always wanted to fuck me, but to like me, the real me, and respect me? Well that blows me away. Also most of THEM were clueless about themselves.
I sort of see us as a team, who support one another in whatever it is the other person wants to do. I would always do this with my men but he is the first one to do it with me. I LOVE that about him.
I do understand what you are saying about erotica. I have been there and done that. I only wish I could write it myself, atm. Yes like you I have tried out things in writing before doing them RL. Yes I wrote anal before I did it and researched it a lot. I did it with a very open mind and yes! I am SO glad I did. So glad I also did it in real life in February! Still when I write I try to keep it very "real." I try to think what I would really feel in that situation and do. I both write what I know and at times what I don't. I mix the two and watch them solidify into something new. I know what you mean by that. It helps me work things out. I was both fascinated and terrified of Anal before. I wrote about it a LOT and researched the hell out of it before I arranged that hotel night.
Yep, life can be GOOD! At times.
I know you were kidding about the cybering but I used to LOVE that. I can't hardly do it anymore or any sex writing. *pouts*
Fury
petboy said:I usually go to the gym and work out, which to me is the best wy to deal with stress. Im very laid back and never get to mad, upset and stressed out very often anyway.
Hi Petboy!
That is a great way to deal with stress! If you can make yourself go! However stress and depression are two sort of different things.
I love the gym! I love the machines and weights, the cardio room with it's epileptical machines is great. I don't like the lame music in the gym, the clanking of the machines, and the know it alls. My daughter and I haven't gone this summer cause I've been sick and stuff. Hopefully we will start back up when the weather isn't hellishly hot.
Kinda funny, one day we were in the cardio room and they have TV's in there. That sort of pisses me off everywhere I go. If I wanted to watch TV! I'd freaking stay home! I rarely watch any TV these days. Anyway, the two TVs in there are usually tuned to CNN(!) and ESPN . *gags*
But we were the only two there. Hehehe! So we put them on BET! We were dancing on the machines to some funky stuff and these two bitchy suburban mom's came in and nearly shit! LOL!
And there was the time we put on a Black Eyes Peas CD in the player and turned it up! I bet they hate us there, those snobs. Oh hey! Maybe I'm a reverse snob? LMAO!
Fury
ammre said:to pull myself up... HMM! i normally just grab the rope and pull... granted normally it's attached to hooks in my body, but oh is it a great feeling!
Hooks in your body Ammre? Wow! That is something I haven't tried and probably won't, but if you like it, good for you! Is there much scaring? What do you find that you like about that?
Were you just being funny and provocative or do you really feel this helps you when you are down?
Fury
Marquis said:Yeeeaaaaaah, I'll stick to Petboy's solution.
Yeah me too if I ever get over this sinus crap. *rubs sore ass* Damn doctors and their shots!
Fury
jasonlf said:When I'm depressed, I usually think of people who are in worse situations than me. There's always someone with more of a reason to be depressed.
Hi Jasonlf!
Heh! That's why I used to watch soaps! They always had more shit going on than me and that was a good thing. It was a damned hard thing to find in the RW. So soaps were my buddies once. I don't watch them now. The writing has gone to hell. TV's and books used to make me feel safe and take me to other worlds where no one wanted a piece of me.
I tell you I never felt safer than with Grandma Horton eating donuts. I want her couch. I got a slip cover that reminds me of it. I already have those dishes. (That was a totally subconscious purchase that I don't regret.) It's not Christmas though if I don't see the ornaments go up on the Horton tree. Love that Soap Net gave me another opportunity this year for that.
I was so upset that nothing was happening online and about all my freaking obligations I forgot to tape. I hardly watch TV these days. Just watch DVD's and tapes.
Fury
Marquis said:Depression is its own reason. Somewhere out there, there is a 48 year old one legged busboy with cancer whistling on his way to work.
You are such a deep thinker Marquis!
It is true that sometime you are depressed enough that nothing seems to work. Then you just have to keep plodding on.
You really amaze me at times.
*grins*
Fury
Netzach said:I used to do that, but then I realized how I'd feel if someone were making me their "it could be worse" example and I got more depressed.
OOH! Netzach! What a terrible idea! *shivers* I see your point! Now I'll probably think that too!
Fury
jasonlf said:Then my thought pattern would be...wow, if he can find the strength to be happy, then so can I. But I do tend to be brighter than your average bear (bright as in happy, not bright as in smart)
Good for you Jasonlf! Not always possible for all of us but good for you!
Fury
shy slave said:There is a difference between low days and clinical depression.
If clinical depression is spotted in time and help that works isn't sorted out (medical or natural or whatever) it can be difficult to even think about anyone else who is in a worse situation.
Sometimes its just too damn hard to think.
True dat! Sometimes it is to hard to think but my damn brain keeps going and it HURTS!!!
Yeah there are differences between down days and clinical depression. Some folks need real professional help. I understand that. Then I fucking cross my fingers hoping they get good help and not a freak, lying, ass like my Mom usually gets.
Fury
