What a *&%$# joke

[Anthonysdaughter]

"Dear Writer,

Thank you for your submission to Literotica. We appreciate the time and effort you've taken to write a story and submit it to our site . However, we've found that we cannot post your submission in its current form. The checklist below may help you in re-examining your manuscript.

We do not publish stories professed to be true/about real people in the title, tags, and/or description. This is to protect you as well as the people in the story."

The story was named "The Corner Office," and it took place at "Harbour Towne," specifically at "the international airport" "the municipal docks," "the cathederal square," "olde towne," "the marina," and on "the island..."

It mentioned "the hotel," "a grocery store," "a pharmacy," "a Caribbean bar," "a well known international logistics company," "an airline," and "a golf cart rental agency."

All characters were well over 18 years of age. Characters were either unnamed or named only by their given name. One character was stated to be another's relative, there was no romantic or sexual relationship between these two characters-- it merely explained why the characters were in that particular place.

 

[Hipshot1554]

Welcome to the club.

 

[KeithD]

So, are you trying to say there's no "real people" name in any of the designated spots? If so, all you need do is send it back with the note that none of that is where claimed and politely asking that it be pointed out if Laurel disagrees. Chances are excellent that it will then just be posted as originally submitted.

What you don't need to do and won't get you anywhere is just to hyperventilate about it in hazy prose on the discussion board. No one here can get this fixed for you.

This happens. There's only one submissions editor dealing with more than 100 submissions a day every day of the year. She apparently relies on a program for prescreening. Sometimes this gets mucked up.

 

[Anthonysdaughter]

So, are you trying to say there's no "real people" name in any of the designated spots?

Yes, exactly.

If so, all you need do is send it back with the note that none of that is where claimed and politely asking that it be pointed out if Laurel disagrees.

I just did, we will see. Thanks.

 

[lovecraft68]

First, I'm confused, when you say real people do you mean you used a celebrity or politician or public figure? Seeing there's a category for that it shouldn't matter

Or are you saying they're saying this is "true events" and you're writing about people you know using their names? If so I didn't know that was a kick back reason.

You'll probably be okay with the note you sent.

This is another example of two things, the rules here are laughable in how inconsistently they're enforced, and two, there is no screening whatsoever because blatant rule breakings stories are everywhere, and more and more people are coming here with these threads being rejected for something not in their story.

This site's reputation as being the best to post stories on isn't going to continue much longer, lot of example here of people catching on and fed up with it.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

"Dear Writer,

Thank you for your submission to Literotica. We appreciate the time and effort you've taken to write a story and submit it to our site . However, we've found that we cannot post your submission in its current form. The checklist below may help you in re-examining your manuscript.

We do not publish stories professed to be true/about real people in the title, tags, and/or description. This is to protect you as well as the people in the story."

The story was named "The Corner Office," and it took place at "Harbour Towne," specifically at "the international airport" "the municipal docks," "the cathederal square," "olde towne," "the marina," and on "the island..."

It mentioned "the hotel," "a grocery store," "a pharmacy," "a Caribbean bar," "a well known international logistics company," "an airline," and "a golf cart rental agency."

All characters were well over 18 years of age. Characters were either unnamed or named only by their given name. One character was stated to be another's relative, there was no romantic or sexual relationship between these two characters-- it merely explained why the characters were in that particular place.

There in lies the problem. If you used real company names. Not that they would, yet they could come after you for defamation of character and the website for publishing your store.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

So, are you trying to say there's no "real people" name in any of the designated spots? If so, all you need do is send it back with the note that none of that is where claimed and politely asking that it be pointed out if Laurel disagrees. Chances are excellent that it will then just be posted as originally submitted.

What you don't need to do and won't get you anywhere is just to hyperventilate about it in hazy prose on the discussion board. No one here can get this fixed for you.

This happens. There's only one submissions editor dealing with more than 100 submissions a day every day of the year. She apparently relies on a program for prescreening. Sometimes this gets mucked up.

Life lesson.

 

[Anthonysdaughter]

There in lies the problem. If you used real company names. Not that they would, yet they could come after you for defamation of character and the website for publishing your store.

I intentionally used "an airline" and "a well known international logistics company" INSTEAD of using the actual names. I used descriptors INSTEAD of actual-- even fake-- proper nouns. It is set on a Caribbean Island (without mentioning the name of the island or the nation) in Harbour Towne (only 30,000 of those). Uhgghhh!

Methinks it's a bot gone mad with power.

 

[Anthonysdaughter]

First, I'm confused, when you say real people do you mean you used a celebrity or politician or public figure? Seeing there's a category for that it shouldn't matter

I don't submit fan fiction here anymore, because this site rejects any non vanilla sex in that category-- even the exact relationships that are in the original story: EG incest in a GOT fan fiction.

Or are you saying they're saying this is "true events" and you're writing about people you know using their names? If so I didn't know that was a kick back reason.

Anything presented as fiction MIGHT be based on true events. (DO we KNOW tenacle monsters don't exist?) Chrissy may even be her real name, my user name MIGHT be my given name, you don't know. But there isn't a single surname in the story.

This is another example of two things, the rules here are laughable in how inconsistently they're enforced, and two, there is no screening whatsoever because blatant rule breaking stories are everywhere, and more and more people are coming here with these threads being rejected for something not in their story.

This site's reputation as being the best to post stories on isn't going to continue much longer, lot of example here of people catching on and fed up with it.

I post elsewhere as well. This story went up "there" without a hitch. But I keep coming back here because Literotica is "the gold standard..."

 

[gunhilltrain]

"Dear Writer,

Thank you for your submission to Literotica. We appreciate the time and effort you've taken to write a story and submit it to our site . However, we've found that we cannot post your submission in its current form. The checklist below may help you in re-examining your manuscript.

We do not publish stories professed to be true/about real people in the title, tags, and/or description. This is to protect you as well as the people in the story."

The story was named "The Corner Office," and it took place at "Harbour Towne," specifically at "the international airport" "the municipal docks," "the cathederal square," "olde towne," "the marina," and on "the island..."

It mentioned "the hotel," "a grocery store," "a pharmacy," "a Caribbean bar," "a well known international logistics company," "an airline," and "a golf cart rental agency."

All characters were well over 18 years of age. Characters were either unnamed or named only by their given name. One character was stated to be another's relative, there was no romantic or sexual relationship between these two characters-- it merely explained why the characters were in that particular place.

I don't get it. I just published an essay in Reviews and Essays about my college newspaper of forty-five years ago. I fictionalized the name, but I mentioned the building (now gone) that it was in. In some cases I used the real first names of people, in others not. All the details are true, to my recollection. Maybe it was approved because it was so long ago?

A company is going is to use up expensive attorney hours to sue me for defamation? (I mentioned several real ones recently.) What can they expect to get, $250? Or sue the site (it's not Literotica)? I'm sure the "optics" would look bad, and the press would be interested in a David and Goliath story.

I didn't even say anything significant about those places. Some fictional characters work at one of them. Is that truly important? It's also a huge conglomerate with many layers, and I didn't mention the name of the lowest level where they are.

 

[Anthonysdaughter]

< -- Damn, I just lost my virgin status (again).

 

[VilHaMer]

I've had some stories sent back for similarly strange reasons. One was rejected because it was about a U.S. president 100 years in the future, another for being about underage people even though it was specifically stated that the characters were over 18 (I had to re-submit that one three or four times), and most recently, because the domme in the story called her slave (also stated to be over 20) "my little slave boy".

If some of these erratic decisions were made by bots, that could go some way towards explaining it.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I don't submit fan fiction here anymore, because this site rejects any non vanilla sex in that category-- even the exact relationships that are in the original story: EG incest in a GOT fan fiction.

Anything presented as fiction MIGHT be based on true events. (DO we KNOW tenacle monsters don't exist?) Chrissy may even be her real name, my user name MIGHT be my given name, you don't know. But there isn't a single surname in the story.

I post elsewhere as well. This story went up "there" without a hitch. But I keep coming back here because Literotica is "the gold standard..."

Perhaps the problem is that the site is understaffed. If you have one person looking at that many stories for that many years - well, I couldn't keep track of what was going on or make consistent decisions either.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't get it. I just published an essay in Reviews and Essays about my college newspaper of forty-five years ago. I fictionalized the name, but I mentioned the building (now gone) that it was in. In some cases I used the real first names of people, in others not. All the details are true, to my recollection. Maybe it was approved because it was so long ago?

A company is going is to use up expensive attorney hours to sue me for defamation? (I mentioned several real ones recently.) What can they expect to get, $250? Or sue the site (it's not Literotica)? I'm sure the "optics" would look bad, and the press would be interested in a David and Goliath story.

I didn't even say anything significant about those places. Some fictional characters work at one of them. Is that truly important? It's also a huge conglomerate with many layers, and I didn't mention the name of the lowest level where they are.

Logically, this makes no sense, and it doesn't make any sense of the OP's predicament, either.

The only thing I can think is that the Site owner saw the names of real places, and then the names of people, and assumed they were real people. So perhaps the key is to send a message to the Site owner that all people described in the story are completely fictional.

 

[Wifetheif]

So, are you trying to say there's no "real people" name in any of the designated spots? If so, all you need do is send it back with the note that none of that is where claimed and politely asking that it be pointed out if Laurel disagrees. Chances are excellent that it will then just be posted as originally submitted.

What you don't need to do and won't get you anywhere is just to hyperventilate about it in hazy prose on the discussion board. No one here can get this fixed for you.

This happens. There's only one submissions editor dealing with more than 100 submissions a day every day of the year. She apparently relies on a program for prescreening. Sometimes this gets mucked up.

Yeah, I once posted a story about a public domain superhero. It was rejected. But once I pointed out to Laurel -- with citations-- that no one owned the character, it was published unaltered. You have to remember lawyers are vermin. People are vermin. Often vermin team up to grasp for any cash imaginable or just to be a nuisance. Laurel's got to protect herself.

 

[gordo12]

I've had some stories sent back for similarly strange reasons. One was rejected because it was about a U.S. president 100 years in the future, another for being about underage people even though it was specifically stated that the characters were over 18 (I had to re-submit that one three or four times), and most recently, because the domme in the story called her slave (also stated to be over 20) "my little slave boy".

If some of these erratic decisions were made by bots, that could go some way towards explaining it.

Bots have been in evidence here for quite some time and make some ridiculous mistakes.

There is constant underage content in LW that shows no human read it, and the bot missed it.

Here are a couple of nonsense lines created when a global search replaced the original content. (June 2019) The original lines referred to the Tinder app. Not to sell it, but using it.

"A married woman shouldn't be on dating app."

She could escape this!
Perhaps survive to a dating app another day!"

The second occurrence wrecked the story somewhat. It was complete nonsense, and that reflected on me, the writer.

Original lines:
"A married woman shouldn't be on Tinder."

She could escape this!
Perhaps survive to Tinder another day!"

 

[MillieDynamite]

I don't know if it helps here, but I always include a disclaimer. I guess I'll find out, as my story for Spillane event is obliviously set in 1940s New York City. I thought I'd mentioned locations here before, put perhaps not.

This is my disclaimer for the 1940's story.

This is a work of fiction and not intended to be historically accurate but merely a representation of the times. The names, characters, places, and incidents are products of the author’s imagination or used fictitiously. Any similarity to any person, living or dead, is coincidental and unintentional. Historical characters and places are used strictly for dramatic purposes. This story contains a little sex and some violence.

Edit
In the story, I used the exchange's the single number prefix, and the suffix on telephone numbers. But I have gone and removed the single number prefix from all the numbers so now, if you translated the exchange to numbers, it is still an incomplete number. Hopefully that won't run afoul of the rules. I think it ads to the flavor of the story to include the old style of doing phone numbers. The exchanges were used until the early to mid 60s.

In one part included a reference to The Pennsylvania Hotel, across the street to Pen Station. "If I’m not there, call me at Pennsylvania-5000 room 2415. I have a permanent room at the Pennsylvania Hotel.” Again the phone number is incomplete, and room 2415 wouldn't have existed as the hotel had 22 floors.

 

[KeithD]

I intentionally used "an airline" and "a well known international logistics company" INSTEAD of using the actual names. I used descriptors INSTEAD of actual-- even fake-- proper nouns. It is set on a Caribbean Island (without mentioning the name of the island or the nation) in Harbour Towne (only 30,000 of those). Uhgghhh!

Methinks it's a bot gone mad with power.

There's no danger in using actual company or product names unless you do so in a demonstrably revenue-threatening campaign in the mainstream. That's disinformation.

 

[KeithD]

I post elsewhere as well. This story went up "there" without a hitch. But I keep coming back here because Literotica is "the gold standard..."

From the description you gave in the OP, the rejection here might just be an initial program scan glitch and that it can post here too.

Everyone needs to just let this have a chance to work out as being a simple technical glitch.

 

[KeithD]

I don't get it. I just published an essay in Reviews and Essays about my college newspaper of forty-five years ago. I fictionalized the name, but I mentioned the building (now gone) that it was in. In some cases I used the real first names of people, in others not. All the details are true, to my recollection. Maybe it was approved because it was so long ago?

No. It was approved because the claim that you can't use real business/product names is disinformation.

And disclaimers, as well as being unnecessary, are totally useless. If it really involved some sort of violation, you'd just be pointing out that you were afraid it was a violation and that it could be found here.

Disinformation.

 

[gunhilltrain]

No. It was approved because the claim that you can't use real business/product names is disinformation.

And disclaimers, as well as being unnecessary, are totally useless. If it really involved some sort of violation, you'd just be pointing out that you were afraid it was a violation and that it could be found here.

Disinformation.

It wasn't a business, it was a non-profit/voluntary student organization. But I think I already knew that using a business name was okay. Anyway, I didn't use the real name of the newspaper, but anybody who attended the school at the time would have known which one it was.

The original post has this: "We do not publish stories professed to be true/about real people in the title, tags, and/or description. This is to protect you as well as the people in the story."

My submission wasn't a story per se, it was an essay, so everything in is presumed to be true. And the actions of real people - some of which were, ah, quite explicit - were described in it. At least one of the males has his own website now. He later wrote a memoir about his job at a porn magazine, so he's not exactly in a position to complain about anything.

 

[MillieDynamite]

From the description you gave in the OP, the rejection here might just be an initial program scan glitch and that it can post here too.

Everyone needs to just let this have a chance to work out as being a simple technical glitch.

Disclaimers have been a common literary practice since sometime in the 1800s. I include things a reader might find objectional in mine so they don't read something they don't want to think about.

 

[gunhilltrain]

There's no danger in using actual company or product names unless you do so in a demonstrably revenue-threatening campaign in the mainstream. That's disinformation.

There was a band that released a song called "Death Comes in a Pontiac," about a serial killer who drives that make of car. I think the song came out a couple of years after Pontiac was discontinued. Anyway, I don't think General Motors complained about it. And the band has been around for a while and has been relatively successful.

 

[Anthonysdaughter]

No. It was approved because the claim that you can't use real business/product names is disinformation.

I was specifically informed that I could not use a real company's name in a story as it was tantamount to an advertisement.

And disclaimers, as well as being unnecessary, are totally useless. If it really involved some sort of violation, you'd just be pointing out that you were afraid it was a violation and that it could be found here.

In a related vein I find the insistence upon citing ages "18-year-old" this, "18-year-old" that to be rather pervvy in and of itself. But the system likes that not having a character establish that he's of age by saying he just got out of the Marines, or that she hated having to live in halls freshman year, etc.

 

[KeithD]

I was specifically informed that I could not use a real company's name in a story as it was tantamount to an advertisement.

No, you were told that naming of real person was not allowed. At least that's what you posted in the OP. The obvious inference is that there's a technical glitch, as a real person isn't a company name. I told you what you could do about that with a good chance of quick resolution without having to rewrite and without dramatics.