well, there goes most of the general board...

[rae121452]

Obesity can increase coronavirus-related death risk by almost 50%, report says
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:27:37 GMT
Obesity may increase the risk of coronavirus-related deaths by 50%, according to a recently published report in the journal Obesity Reviews....

 

[butters]

Obesity can increase coronavirus-related death risk by almost 50%, report says
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:27:37 GMT
Obesity may increase the risk of coronavirus-related deaths by 50%, according to a recently published report in the journal Obesity Reviews....

both here and i'd think a good 30% at least in america, young and old inclusive.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Should "may" be in the introduction of your scientific thesis?

 

[Conager]

What about those with a lifelong history of morbid obesity that have had layers of suet surgically removed? Still at risk?

Asking for a friend..

 

[Ramone45]

The general health of the American public is a disgrace.Obesity. Sedentary lifestyle. One of the reasons SAR-COV2 hit us so hard. "Healthy" is not merely to absence of disease.

 

[coati]

T One of the reasons SAR-COV2 hit us so hard.

But the main reason is that a certain national cult leader called the pandemic a Democrat hoax and then proceeded to undermine the transmission-reduction measures that were effectively applied in countries whose leaders actually listen to scientists.

 

[Conager]

The general health of the American public is a disgrace.Obesity. Sedentary lifestyle. One of the reasons SAR-COV2 hit us so hard. "Healthy" is not merely to absence of disease.

Given the number of septagenarians and octogenarians who are listed as victims of the China Virus, I wo der I'd we have many left.

Due to obesity more than any other cause, America spends the most on healthcare, even more so on end of life care. Our life expectancy is lower as well strictly because of our world-leading obesity rates. We subsidise obesity. We have the most obese impoverished people in the history of the world.

It says something about our healthcare system that our deaths attributed to the China Virus are not higher.

 

[Adre]

But the main reason is that a certain national cult leader called the pandemic a Democrat hoax and then proceeded to undermine the transmission-reduction measures that were effectively applied in countries whose leaders actually listen to scientists.

Like last night on the White House lawn?

 

[Bad_Egg]

I grew up athletic, that hasn't changed, besides, I may have already had it. So....

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT77Y8eeEhBA8NQwLK/giphy.gif

 

[Conager]

Yeah because people with up-to-date covid tests and temperature checks are going to infect others with their lack of symptoms.

There is literally no protocol that you nitwits will agree is taking reasonable precautions before a gathering.

It is vitally important that Biden have an excuse to hide until November fouth.

Nevermind that there's no way he could handle any kind of live setting, the size of his crowds alone would be an embarrassment.

 

[Noor]

I'd like to see some real data on this.
I think it's just bulsghit, and fat shaming.

I have known quite a few people who have had covid so far, and the fat ones seem to survive rather well, rather than die. It's the fit, literal triathletes that have a 6 week spiral to death.
Men seem to have a harder time. Being older might actually be a real factor, but smoking and certain pre existing conditions like COPD and other disease that limit lung function definitely are. So far the people who have what I have are doing well with it.

I wonder how alcoholics do? Many of them here.

 

[Dribble]

I'd like to see some real data on this.
I think it's just bulsghit, and fat shaming.

I have known quite a few people who have had covid so far, and the fat ones seem to survive rather well, rather than die. It's the fit, literal triathletes that have a 6 week spiral to death.
Men seem to have a harder time. Being older might actually be a real factor, but smoking and certain pre existing conditions like COPD and other disease that limit lung function definitely are. So far the people who have what I have are doing well with it.

I wonder how alcoholics do? Many of them here.

All you have to do is Google "lung disease and obesity". But if you don't want to believe the OP report...why would you believe the thousands of search results, including Mayo, NIH, ect? Stop acting like a Republican. Just because you know fat people that survived Covid, doesn't mean obesity will not increase risk.

 

[FescueFan]

But the main reason is that a certain national cult leader called the pandemic a Democrat hoax and then proceeded to undermine the transmission-reduction measures that were effectively applied in countries whose leaders actually listen to scientists.

Coati just can't help but lie and smear.....if he told the truth just once it would fucking kill him.


Where did he call the pandemic itself a hoax?

No...he called the Democrat reaction to it a hoax....it is, you dipshits went DEFCON-ZERO end of the world over a minor bug that isn't even that serious.

He didn't undermine shit either, if you don't like how your STATE reacted take it up with your governor, it wasn't a federal issue.

 

[FescueFan]

I'd like to see some real data on this.
I think it's just bulsghit, and fat shaming.

I have known quite a few people who have had covid so far, and the fat ones seem to survive rather well, rather than die. It's the fit, literal triathletes that have a 6 week spiral to death.
Men seem to have a harder time. Being older might actually be a real factor, but smoking and certain pre existing conditions like COPD and other disease that limit lung function definitely are. So far the people who have what I have are doing well with it.

I wonder how alcoholics do? Many of them here.

Sorry Noor, but the facts are elderly/obese/immuno-compromised folks make up nearly all the deaths.

While healthy young athletes can still die from it, everything I've read says they are very much the minority of covid deaths.

 

[silver gurl]

If you believe in such studies.
The OpenSAFELY study, which looked at more than 12 million electronic records: among the 5,683 patients who died, 29% were overweight and 33% were obese.

Both studies, note Tan et al, showed a dose-response relationship between excess weight and disease severity. In OpenSAFELY, the risk of dying from COVID-19 increased by 27% among obese individuals and was doubled in patients with a body mass index greater than 40.

“I think people have recognized now that based on every study you look at—including the early studies in China which were open studies, then from Europe, then from New York—they all show that obesity increases the severity of COVID-19 and increases mortality,” MacGregor observed.

 

[jaF0]

Should "may" be in the introduction of your scientific thesis?

At least a link should be.

All you have to do is Goo ...

The fucking super duper scientist doesn't know to avoid spyware and use search engines that don't track you. Blows all your research and 'fact-based' posts out of the water.

 

[Dribble]

At least a link should be.



The fucking super duper scientist doesn't know to avoid spyware and use search engines that don't track you. Blows all your research and 'fact-based' posts out of the water.

I have no fear of being tracked. I have nothing to hide.

All a search engine does is link you to the search results. It is up to you to decide which results are biased and which are not. I for one...believe the Mayo Clinic, NIH, New England Journal of Medicine.

Gotta attack the messenger huh? Can't bring something to the table that shows obesity is not linked to covid mortality?

 

[LLCox]

I am 6' and a svelte 183lbs. But I do have high blood pressure... from the fucking interwebs I'm sure. I stay away from people as much as possible.

 

[butters]

I'd like to see some real data on this.
I think it's just bulsghit, and fat shaming.

I have known quite a few people who have had covid so far, and the fat ones seem to survive rather well, rather than die. It's the fit, literal triathletes that have a 6 week spiral to death.
Men seem to have a harder time. Being older might actually be a real factor, but smoking and certain pre existing conditions like COPD and other disease that limit lung function definitely are. So far the people who have what I have are doing well with it.

I wonder how alcoholics do? Many of them here.

the link to obesity is because of the links with obesity and high bloodpressure and diabetes, noor.

some overweight people don't have an issue with those, but many more do. one of the things covid seems to do is thicken the blood, leading to increased risk of strokes and clots (in anyone) and, i believe, heart failure, lung problems and the need for amputations. if you're already suffering from those co-morbidities, your chances of getting sicker, more seriously, is elevated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

 

[Saint_Ann]

the link to obesity is because of the links with obesity and high bloodpressure and diabetes, noor.

some overweight people don't have an issue with those, but many more do. one of the things covid seems to do is thicken the blood, leading to increased risk of strokes and clots (in anyone) and, i believe, heart failure, lung problems and the need for amputations. if you're already suffering from those co-morbidities, your chances of getting sicker, more seriously, is elevated.

Or it could be that God is picking and choosing who to call home.

 

[rockcasbah]

The general board is safe.

 

[Noor]

All you have to do is Google "lung disease and obesity". But if you don't want to believe the OP report...why would you believe the thousands of search results, including Mayo, NIH, ect? Stop acting like a Republican. Just because you know fat people that survived Covid, doesn't mean obesity will not increase risk.

I want to see actual clinic patient data.
Being a opposed to political Fat Phobia is hardly being a Republican.

 

[Noor]

the link to obesity is because of the links with obesity and high bloodpressure and diabetes, noor.

some overweight people don't have an issue with those, but many more do. one of the things covid seems to do is thicken the blood, leading to increased risk of strokes and clots (in anyone) and, i believe, heart failure, lung problems and the need for amputations. if you're already suffering from those co-morbidities, your chances of getting sicker, more seriously, is elevated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

Well then they should just say diabetes and high blood pressure. Many people have blood pressure issues after a certain age. I am also suspicious of the obesity linkages. There is a lot of non science out there.

 

[Noor]

Sorry Noor, but the facts are elderly/obese/immuno-compromised folks make up nearly all the deaths.

While healthy young athletes can still die from it, everything I've read says they are very much the minority of covid deaths.

Got any links to studies? I am willing to believe actual data.

 

[butters]

Well then they should just say diabetes and high blood pressure. Many people have blood pressure issues after a certain age. I am also suspicious of the obesity linkages. There is a lot of non science out there.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/evidence-table.html

you should be able to follow the references naming the studies and their authors
these 3 specifically address obesity independent of diabetes

Simonnet, A., et al., High Prevalence of Obesity in Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) Requiring Invasive Mechanical Ventilation. Obesity (Silver Spring), 2020.

Kalligeros, M., et al., Association of Obesity with Disease Severity Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019. Obesity, 2020(n/a).

Palaiodimos, L., et al., Severe obesity, increasing age and male sex are independently associated with worse in-hospital outcomes, and higher in-hospital mortality, in a cohort of patients with COVID-19 in the Bronx, New York. Metabolism, 2020. 108: p. 154262.

Zhu, L., et al., Association of Blood Glucose Control and Outcomes in Patients with COVID-19 and Pre-existing Type 2 Diabetes. Cell Metabolism, 2020. 31(6): p. 1068-1077.e3.

Bode, B., et al., Glycemic Characteristics and Clinical Outcomes of COVID-19 Patients Hospitalized in the United States. Journal of Diabetes Science and Technology, 2020: p. 1932296820924469.

Chen, Y., et al., Clinical Characteristics and Outcomes of Patients With Diabetes and COVID-19 in Association With Glucose-Lowering Medication. Diabetes Care, 2020.

Fadini, G.P., et al., Prevalence and impact of diabetes among people infected with SARS-CoV-2. J Endocrinological Investigations, 2020. 43(6): p. 867-869.