Welfare for everyone: the Basic Income Guarantee

[LJ_Reloaded]

Basically: a guaranteed government-supplied income for every citizen. Unconditionally, every citizen receives a government check every month. It would replace welfare, Social Security, etc.

Is this nanny state Socialism? You betcha.

It's also almost identical to what they do for every registered citizen/resident in Republican Conservative former US Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home state of Alaska.

The US has 319 million people with a total GDP of $15.68 trillion. The average GDP per capita is $46,349.

Given the creeping and inevitably total automation of lower paying jobs, the basic income guarantee should at least be $1200 a month (close to the maximum Social Security Disability benefit) to partially discourage hunting for those kinds of jobs. It will most certainly discourage part-time work. Alaska, at a recent low of $878 a month, doles out $10,536 a year.

Hey, it works in Sarah Palin land, folks. All that's left for a nationwide program is to adjust the money levels.

 

[rosco rathbone]

You're never going to see a straightforward guaranteed income named as such...that's too at odd with basic American ideology. What you will see is a bunch of different things like extended unemployment insurance, etc that add up to a de facto guaranteed income.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

You're never going to see a straightforward guaranteed income named as such...that's too at odd with basic American ideology. What you will see is a bunch of different things like extended unemployment insurance, etc that add up to a de facto guaranteed income.

But then how did it happen in Alaska? Perhaps we can study how to make that happen nationally.

Also, we could just wait out the demographic group that supports Republicans. It's not like they're growing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Perhaps we should brand it something other than what works in Sarah Palin land, a state with the population of my town and if I'm not mistaken that money is basically what the oil companies pay them.

I'm quite curious what would happen to inflation and the such if we tried something like this large scale.

 

[eyer]

Keep it up, children...

...and soon you'll have no other choice but to put bubbles over your metropolises, the better to secure yourselves and your socialist ilk down.

 

[thør]

Basically: a guaranteed government-supplied income for every citizen. Unconditionally, every citizen receives a government check every month. It would replace welfare, Social Security, etc.

Is this nanny state Socialism? You betcha.

It's also almost identical to what they do for every registered citizen/resident in Republican Conservative former US Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home state of Alaska.

The US has 319 million people with a total GDP of $15.68 trillion. The average GDP per capita is $46,349.

Given the creeping and inevitably total automation of lower paying jobs, the basic income guarantee should at least be $1200 a month (close to the maximum Social Security Disability benefit) to partially discourage hunting for those kinds of jobs. It will most certainly discourage part-time work. Alaska, at a recent low of $878 a month, doles out $10,536 a year.

Hey, it works in Sarah Palin land, folks. All that's left for a nationwide program is to adjust the money levels.

You've made an error: AK PFD payments are annual payments.

 

[Boxlicker101]

But then how did it happen in Alaska? Perhaps we can study how to make that happen nationally.

Also, we could just wait out the demographic group that supports Republicans. It's not like they're growing.

It could only work in a sparsely populated state, such as Alaska, where there is a lot of public owned land and a large flow of income that requires little or no effort on the part of the population.

ND has some things in common with AK - sparsely populated and oil money coming in but the oil is mostly found on private property and the extraction is difficult and expensive.

BTW, when did Sarah Palin run for POTUS?

 

[thør]

It could only work in a sparsely populated state, such as Alaska, where there is a lot of public owned land and a large flow of income that requires little or no effort on the part of the population.

ND has some things in common with AK - sparsely populated and oil money coming in but the oil is mostly found on private property and the extraction is difficult and expensive.

If this was so, every vagrant in the US would be on the way to Alaska.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

It could only work in a sparsely populated state, such as Alaska, where there is a lot of public owned land and a large flow of income that requires little or no effort on the part of the population.

ND has some things in common with AK - sparsely populated and oil money coming in but the oil is mostly found on private property and the extraction is difficult and expensive.

BTW, when did Sarah Palin run for POTUS?

Vice President, LOL.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

If this was so, every vagrant in the US would be on the way to Alaska.

They'd die in the cold on the way there.

 

[jeninflorida]

jesus you fucking pile of shit. get a job.

 

[RjThoughts]

I wonder if the checks I receive from my tribe are considered welfare. I mean, it comes from the profits from the bingo hall and casino.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't see why it wouldn't, I mean you don't have anything to do with earning that money do you?

 

[RjThoughts]

I don't see why it wouldn't, I mean you don't have anything to do with earning that money do you?

I had to fill out forms, for the Akwesanse Nation and for the state of New York, so I won't be taxed on it. The Federal government has nothing to do with it.

So, no, it's not welfare

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wait. . .it's not welfare unless it comes from the feds?

 

[RjThoughts]

Wait. . .it's not welfare unless it comes from the feds?

And it's not welfare when it's PROFIT!
Is receiving a dividend check considered welfare?

 

[Sean Renaud]

And it's not welfare when it's PROFIT!
Is receiving a dividend check considered welfare?

Now that I can get behind.