We will fight if you mess with my kid!!

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[TonyG]

I don't think there is anything "too far" when it comes to my kids. I have gone from making an ass of myself many times doing some silly thing for them to being openly and loudly protective at other times. Even if they have done something wrong, I will protect them from verbal or physical harm, while they right their wrong.

 

[Countess DeWinter]

I always say that I'd give my life to save my children...
and I'll take yours if you threaten them.
Seriously.

 

[Sammyjo]

Well, I don't think I'd be killing other cheerleaders because my daughter didn't make it...or poisoning the drinking water hoping other kids would get sick so my
kid could play...but I would go to the ends of the earth
for my daughter...

I have been protecting her all her life. I have kept her away from "the other family". Don't get me wrong, this isn't a woman scorned type of deal. This is the deal where her father is a drug addict. He and his step-father (notice, not his MOTHER, she didn't bother) showing up to court in ripped clothing and obviously on something...yes, both of them.

I will do anything I have to do to keep her away from them until I have proof that it would be a good thing to allow her to meet any of them. Not that she wants to. When asked, "Do you want to meet your daddy?" her answer is, "No, he doesn't love me." Hmmm....elaborate, please. "He doesn't call me, or send me a card, or come to see me." yes, this is true...sad that a man doesn't want to be a part of his child's life...even more sad that his parents aren't mature enough to accept their granddaughter. What an example they have set for him...

When he asked me why he couldn't see her...I said this..."It took you five years to realize that you had a daughter, she doesn't want to see you. It may take five years, ten years, or forever for her to want a relationship with you...deal with it. You started and perpetuated the problem by not being a part of her life, you can wait until she decides she wants you in it." To which I heard, "I know." So, I said goodbye, rather civilly...and hung up the phone.

Now, you will say..."But he called didn't he?" Hmm...yes, he called. To ask me why he was having to pay a bill for an emergency room visit. Well, idiot, you pay the medical bills, it's in the child support agreement. Oh yes, you were high...oh well...now you know. He didn't even ask about HER, just why he was getting a bill. Bastard.

Bitter? yes...because my daughter would like a father, not a dead beat. She deserves more...but not from him.

Ok...sorry, I sort of ummm...vented there. Yikes!!! I'll try to control myself in the future.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Purple Haze]

I can't remember a time that my mother ever stepped in to fix a squabble I got into. I believe what appeared as indifference on her part was beneficial to my learning to stand up for myself.

I'm realizing how hard this must have been for her, because my daughter is being bullied by a boy, and I want to kick his teeth in. It's hard. Do I teach her how to break his nose, or do I have a talk with his idiot parents who think he's a sweet little angel? It's hard.

 

[Cyan BloodsBane]

Well here is my thought

Well i am going to post my thoughts... and I will be hammered for them but I don't care....


For me I do not understand why people like ccchhhchhhhh... little rodents.... They whine, there dirty, they complain, etc....

I for one made sure I can never have chhhcchhhhhhh... little rodents. For I believe if you don't like them don't have them. One problem with that is one lady tht I met years ago.. Wanted to biuld more of a realationship, but I had to tell her that as long as there were chhhhcchhhh... little rodents with her(which were hers). She would be nothing more than a toy to be used and abused. Now yes I know I sound like a number one ass. But I never said I was nice, I always tell people that I am a ASSHOLE.

So explain to me why you would want them and why they are so greatttt... btw: My wife wants them... I tried to tell her but she still wants one. And if we have one I have to pretend to like them... or I am a dead man...

Yes I am scared of my wife... She will staple my nuts to the ceiling if I made her sad or tried to leave because of ccchhhh chchh... little rodents... plus I would never leave because of that. Maybe kill her or the chhhhhccchhh... little rodent. But thats about it.

:0 :0

 

[Juliangel]

I have fought with the teacher, principal and school board over one of my sons this year. They give you a booklet at he beginning of the school year and we read it and my second grader found out that the rule states "You may stand and say the pledge, stand and remain quiet or remain seated quietly during the pledge."

Well being the little boy that he is he chose to remain seated and got in trouble when I talked to the teacher she said, "it is disrespectful not to stand".

So I went to the principal and she said "well I could understand if there were a religious reason but there isn't.

So I went to the school board, I told then I can see both the teacher and the principals points of view BUT the fact is that it is stated in the rules that they makes us read and sign that he is allowed to remain seated.

When they got wishy washy on it I just said "You know I am sure the news paper would have a field day with this and BOOM that was it, the principal and teacher we both told to keep their mouths shut and follow the rules no matter how they felt.

I am an easy going person but if you mess with my kids I can get mean and nasty.

 

[Sammyjo]

Cyan...not all kids are rodents (but I know what you mean)...if you do NOT want kids, please do not have any...they will know, even if you pretend very well.

Way to go Juliangel!!! You are my kinda gal...I love that!!!

 

[teresafannin]

I was considered over protective by a lot of my friends, but Justin grew up into an independent young man who could stand up for himself. There are times when kids have to learn to stand on their own, but they need their parents to stand by them & show them the right ways to do that. When I was a little girl, if anyone messed with me, I messed right back. I never started a fight, but I also never backed down. My parents told me that I had the right to defend myself & I told Justin the same thing. When it came to things like school, I would listen to both sides, Justin's & the teacher & make a decision based on the facts.

 

[Curious Guy]

I can't remember a time that my mother ever stepped in to fix a squabble I got into. I believe what appeared as indifference on her part was beneficial to my learning to stand up for myself.

I'm realizing how hard this must have been for her, because my daughter is being bullied by a boy, and I want to kick his teeth in. It's hard. Do I teach her how to break his nose, or do I have a talk with his idiot parents who think he's a sweet little angel? It's hard.

You teach her to defend herself. Verbally and bodily, girls need to know how to take care of themselves. I have a 21 year old daughter, she is not even 5' tall, that will make enough noise to scare almost anyone when she feels threatened.

 

[Whispersecret]

Does anyone know where I can get an asbestos jumpsuit? I'm gonna need it.

Hmmm. Juliangel, your story gets my dander up on a couple of levels. As a mother and a teacher, issues dealing with kids and school are close to my heart, and as Laurel says, those are two of my pet issues. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I can't keep quiet here.

One, I believe in showing respect to my country's flag, and I teach my own children and my first grade students to show respect. Patriotism is dying in our country. If your child was just trying to show his individuality in school, I can truly understand that. I'm like that too. It's my nature to strive to be different. But there are better ways to show it than sitting during the Pledge of Allegiance.

That's not to say that I insist that ALL kids say the pledge. I had a student who was an Australian citizen and her mother came after school on the first day and told me that she preferred that her daughter not say it because she was not an American. I had no problem with that whatsoever. She did, however, stand silently out of respect.

Two, while I truly admire your willingness to go to bat for your child, I think that it might be better to choose your battles. Was this really an issue worth going to the school board over? What is the big deal about standing during the Pledge? I just don't get that.

When we defend our children, it behooves us to step back from the issue at hand and try to see what we're really teaching them by doing so. Above all things, children learn by our example.

Time and again I've seen parents act in what they thought was their child's best interests. The short term results often seem beneficial, but a lot of the time the child just learns in the long run that "Mommy and Daddy are going to take care of that for me and I got my way." As Purple Haze said, it's hard. It's hard to discern between when parental interference is necessary and when you should look at alternative ways to teach your child how to deal with the situation himself.

I'm sure you probably think I'm a queen bitch now, so I'll stop preaching.

 

[Cyan BloodsBane]

Why is it the people force people to do what they think is right. If the kid does not want to say the pledge who cares. The pledge is boring, I was forced to listen to the Canadian anthumeee thingy for to many fuckin years. I even joined the army. And I not only hate the song but I hate this dum Country.

I think it is over moralistic son of a bitches that think that you have to say the pledge to have true Patriotism!!!!

Bull shit!!!!! Patriotism comes from ones self. Is not dieing for your coutry, screw that, I joined that army to help put me through school and because it was easy. Not because I wanted to die for this cold piece of rock.

Get your mind out of old bielfs and come into reality, the only thing people need to worry about is fixing ones problems in there own back yard and not worry about what other pin heads are doing...


And thats the bottom line because CYAN SAYS SO!!!!

 

[Cg1369]

I've got very mixed emotions on this. I too, believe in showing respect for one's country. Hell, I spent 27 years in the Navy defending my country. Don't sound like much huh? Try being home 3 weeks a year. after a long deployment to SE Asia, then home for a week, then "working up" to go back to that godforsaken place for another nine months. I taught my only child, a daughter, to respect America and what it stood for. I showed her, by example, how to honor our flag, our country. I musta done a good job, cause she joined the Navy and served 4 years.
I honestly feel that, if you are an American citizen, you SHOULD show respect for OUR flag and what it stands for. You're not only showing respect for YOUR flag, but respect for all those that have served and died to give you the option to participate in the pledge, or to just stand silently.
Whispersecret, good for you lady. Continue the good work.

Cyan, I respect your opinions on having children. But just a thought????????? If your parents felt the same way, you wouldn't be here now to voice your opinion. Think about THAT for a moment Cyan. If the only reason you joined the army was to get a "free" education, then you must admit that you paid a hell of a price for that "free" education.

OK off my soap box for now. Been rambling too long.

Flame away at me.

 

[Guest]

How about you? What lengths would you go to for your child? How far is too far for the sake of your child?

My life for theirs...

 

[Silverlily]

Do I teach her how to break his nose, or do I have a talk with his idiot parents who think he's a sweet little angel? It's hard.

I agree with Curious Guy, teach her how to defend herself. The world is full of predators and unfortunately women all too often are the victims.

I have two girls, the oldest was being pushed everyday by a boy older than her. We tried the tell the teacher approach, but the situation remained unchanged. Now the bully, being a child, projected long before he actually was close to her. We taught her what signs to look for and when he was close enough, step aside and "help" him down. I have also taught them both how to dislocate the fingers of anyone who touched them inappropriately.

With all of these lessons came many discussions about the difference between self-defence and assalt. They both know to strike first is wrong and they will suffer the penalties of doing so. But I would rather them know than be victimized.

 

[JHolley67]

Here's your asbestos jumpsuit, size extra small....

My darling Whisper, as a proud American Veteran, I would like to point out one thing...

Patriotism is dying in our country.

Patriotism is dying FOR our country. But I did understand your point. No flame-age here.

Jason

 

[JHolley67]

Oh and Cyan....

Just a little something for you to contemplate, Cyan.

It's a good thing your parents didn't feel that way about chhchhhhchhh.....

You little rodent.



Jason

 

[Silverlily]

Yeah, I know I'm going to be called biased

Cyan, I respect your opinions on having children. But just a thought????????? If your parents felt the same way, you wouldn't be here now to voice your opinion.

Just a little something for you to contemplate, Cyan. It's a good thing your parents didn't feel that way about chhchhhhchhh...

What makes you think everyone's parents wanted kids? (And why does he have to be like his parents anyway? Most people I know try to be everything but.) I don't know about Cyan's childhood, but I know mine. I lost count of the number of times I heard "I wish I had never had children" while growing up. At least he is honest about how he feels rather than pretending. Society puts too much pressure on people to reproduce sometimes.

Namecalling lends little credence to your stand.

 

[SweetyPie]

I am new to the board but while reading these posts I felt compelled to say a little something.....I have had two girls born VERY prematurely and have had a few run-ins with nurses and doctors while they were in the hospital. When they blew out all of my one-pounder's veins and had to start an IV in her head, I got a little angry. And when they wouldn't let us hold her, for no other reason than they didn't want to get her out of the bed and deal with her tubes, I got a little peeved. And when they failed to notice she was not tolerating her feedings well I got really pissed. My two pounder had better care and we didn't have too many problems. But nevertheless I have gone to bat for them and I will again. That is my job...I am their mother. Is that wrong?

 

[whatsinaname]

I'm only 26. I don't have them yet, and I don't want them yet. Another 7-10 years maybe?

 

[Sammyjo]

KE...you said exactly what I was thinking.

Just because HIS parents had HIM, doesn't mean HE wants children of his own...maybe they didn't want him, maybe they got stuck with him...maybe he was an accident, or a hospital mix up...or maybe he was a true blessing. We don't know that...just be thankful that there is someone out there sane enough to NOT have children they don't want. There are far too many children out there with unloving parents...we don't need any more of that...leave the parent thing to those who have a true desire to nurture children, and stop berating people for choosing not to procreate.

I think we should all respect Cyan's obvious maturity in knowing that he doesn't want any children. Better to know that now, than to end up with hoodlums to deal with.

 

[teresafannin]

What I have to wonder is if Cyan is so set against having children, why would he marry a woman who wants children? Sounds like a bad plan to me. I was always afraid I wouldn't be a good stepmother, so I never got involved with men who had children of their own. Selfish, I know, but I wanted to be able to do everything I could for Justin. My sister gets all kinds of crap because she doesn't want any more children, she has her daughter & 2 grown step-daughters & has the family she wants. Every family is different, I personally can't imagine not having Justin, even though I was only allowed to have him for 17 years, I wouldn't have missed it for anything.

 

[Silverlily]

What I have to wonder is if Cyan is so set against having children, why would he marry a woman who wants children?

Because sometimes two people love each other enough to overcome the imperfections in a relationship.

Lol, Sammyjo, I wonder what the dragon will think of being called mature. I can just imagine the expression on his face.

 

[Cyan BloodsBane]

Re: Yeah, I know I'm going to be called biased

Cyan, I respect your opinions on having children. But just a thought????????? If your parents felt the same way, you wouldn't be here now to voice your opinion.

Just a little something for you to contemplate, Cyan. It's a good thing your parents didn't feel that way about chhchhhhchhh...

What makes you think everyone's parents wanted kids? (And why does he have to be like his parents anyway? Most people I know try to be everything but.) I don't know about Cyan's childhood, but I know mine. I lost count of the number of times I heard "I wish I had never had children" while growing up. At least he is honest about how he feels rather than pretending. Society puts too much pressure on people to reproduce sometimes.

Namecalling lends little credence to your stand.

I have to agree with Kitten, I was a bastard.... I was not to happen. But becasue I was born out of wedlock, it was either in the forster homes or my mother(the drunk bitch from hell) would have to take care of me...