We Found The Sub!

Lost Cause

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It went down after being sunk by the USS Ward one hour before the attack, still, authorities had no clue what was going down! Do you think it was a setup? (things that make you go hmmmm)


HONOLULU - Researchers said they found a Japanese midget submarine sunk more than an hour before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Discovery of the 78-foot (24-meter) vessel could provide the first physical evidence to back U.S. military assertions that it fired first against Japan in World War II and inflicted the first casualties.

The sub was sunk by a Navy destroyer on Dec. 7, 1941. The remains of two Japanese crewmen are believed to be still inside the submarine.

"It's the shot that started World War II between the Americans and the Japanese," said John Wiltshire, associate director of the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory, which found the sub.

The two-man submarine was discovered at a depth of 1,200 feet (366 meters) and a few miles from Pearl Harbor by research craft making test dives, he said.

The sub led four other Japanese midget submarines to Pearl Harbor to take park in the attack. The newly discovered sub was believed to be the one sunk by the destroyer USS Ward before the attack began.

Wiltshire said the crew is certain that this sub was sunk by the Ward because of a bullet hole in the conning tower and because it still has both torpedoes. Three of the subs have been previously accounted for; the remaining sub had fired both of its weapons.

Until the submarine was found, historian Daniel Martinez said eyewitness accounts were unconfirmed. Martinez, a historian for the USS Arizona Memorial, has interviewed the crew who fired the first shot, and a pilot who saw the submarine sink.

"What they saw and what they felt was their recollection, now the proof has been found," he said.

The submarines' entry into the harbor was followed by the Sunday morning attack by Japanese planes that lasted two hours and left 21 U.S. ships heavily damaged, 323 aircraft damaged or destroyed, 2,390 people dead and 1,178 others wounded.

Terry Kerby, chief pilot of the deep-diving submersible that found the submarine, said it was covered in growth but was in excellent condition.

"To actually come across it was a sobering moment, realizing that was the shot that started the Pacific war," he said.

Kerby and other researchers have been conducting dives in the area since the 1980s, and have always known the sub was somewhere out there.

Wiltshire described the area as an underwater military junkyard.

"The thing is quite difficult to find because of all the massive amounts of junk out in the area, and we were simply fortunate because we've run our test and training dives through here and know where a lot of the junk is," Wiltshire said.

The submarine was the focus of a National Geographic expedition in 2000. A team of deep-water researchers led by undersea explorer Robert Ballard spent 10 days searching for the Japanese sub, using remotely operated imaging vehicles.

Ballard is best known for finding the remains of the Titanic, the battleships Bismarck and Yorktown, along with the recent discovery of PT-109, the torpedo boat commanded by John F. Kennedy during World War II and sunk near the Solomon Islands.


**Just to keep you informed!
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I didn't even know it was lost.....:)

Thanks for the interesting read, though.

Moon
 
that's right, the US started the war in the Pacific. immediately after that sub was sunk (Japan knew it was sunk even before it hit the bottom of the ocean, after all), the Japanese Imperial Navy launched a multiple carrier-led task force which arrived in position close enough to the Hawaiian islands to launch a fighter/bomber raid on the US naval base at Pearl Harbor in retaliation for the loss of their (Japan's) sub, which occured around an hour after it was sunk.

Jesus fucking Budha, the history books gotten it wrong all this time! you have opened my eyes and filled by mind with The Truth!
 
scylis said:
Jesus fucking Budha, the history books gotten it wrong all this time!

This is news to you? History books are only as enlightened as the writer is.

In other words.....NOT!

Moon

(BTW, I like that jesus fucking budha bit. Brings up interesting visualizations)
 
Lost Cause said:

Ballard is best known for finding the remains of the Titanic, the battleships Bismarck and Yorktown,


All this time I thought the Yorktown was an aircraft carrier!?
 
Unless the Brits had a pocket battleship named Yorktown...



Hey, to me it shows the obvious. Japan was Hell-bent on war with the United States. My argument is that the driving force was a sense of racial superiority that fueled a peceived need for resources and territory. This air of racial superiority permeated their views on us as a mongrel race that would pack it up and fold the very minute that things became tough...



Currently, The Chinese are Hell-bent on war with the United States. My argument is that the driving force is a sense of racial superiority that fuels a peceived need for resources and territory. This air of racial superiority permeats their views on us as a mongrel race that we will pack it up and fold the very minute that things become tough....
 
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