WBC find's their tires slashed!

[JackLuis]

About a half-dozen members of the Westboro Baptist Church traveled to McAlester, Oklahoma Saturday to picket Army Sgt. Jason James McCluskey's funeral.

Following the protest, the group returned to their minivan to find that the front and rear tires on the passenger side of the vehicle had been slashed.

"To make matters worse, as their minivan slowly hobbled away on two flat tires, with a McAlester police car following behind, the protesters were unable to find anyone in town who would repair their vehicle, according to police," Tulsa World reported.

Pay back is a bitch.

 

[SlickTony]

Yeah, every once in a great while, Karma is instant.

 

[SeaCat]

While I agree with and understand the actions taken against these people, I do not like the manner in which the vengance was carried out. There was no artistry, no subtlety and no imagination being used.

Cat

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Yeah, it would have been better if the car had completely disappeared and been broken down for parts making it untraceable. Now that would have been class, especially since probably no one would have sold them a bus ticket home, either and they'd have had to walk!

 

[Boxlicker101]

I especially like that nobody in town would help them. I certainly wouldn't have either. Maybe this will start a trend. When they go somewhere to spread their message of hate, someone there will disable their vehicles and nobody will do anything to help them, not repairing the vehicles or selling parts or anything else. Or even selling them tickets on public transportation.

One can only hope.

ETA: I wonder how it feels to know that one is a member of the most hated group in the country except, maybe, Muslim terrorists.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

ETA: I wonder how it feels to know that one is a member of the most hated group in the country except, maybe, Muslim terrorists.

For certain types of emotional pathology, any attention is better than none.

 

[bronzeage]

These people are obnoxious and offensive, but for the most part harmless.

They are misguided and led by a sociopath who has no conscience. I can't see any reason to make it difficult for them to leave.

A few years back, during the Gene Robinson, Gay Episcopalian Bishop controversy, some friends of mine arrived for church services and found protesters similar to WBC standing on the curb, waving their signs as people entered the parking lot. This congregation was divided on the issue, but did not think they had a lot of influence on the matter and could not understand why protesters came to their church.

I told them the truly Christian thing to do would be to tell the protesters they were welcome to have coffee and donuts in the Fellowship hall, and offer to hold their sign while they enjoyed the refreshments.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Treat your enemies with kindness. They can't stand that sort of thing!

 

[Stella_Omega]

I keep thinking that they have done more for gay rights than most of their advocates. They demonstrate the grotesqueness of homophobia so very clearly, and can drive communities together at the drop of a hat.

 

[HeyAll]

Unfortunate there weren't any cameras around to film them.

 

[bronzeage]

I keep thinking that they have done more for gay rights than most of their advocates. They demonstrate the grotesqueness of homophobia so very clearly, and can drive communities together at the drop of a hat.

Gay rights advocates could not pay for the service WBC provides. Any political cause is easier when the opposition is extreme to the point of silliness.

They remind me of segregationists who screamed school desegregation would lead make the US a nation of mixed breed mongrels by the year 1990.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Gay rights advocates could not pay for the service WBC provides. Any political cause is easier when the opposition is extreme to the point of silliness.

They remind me of segregationists who screamed school desegregation would lead make the US a nation of mixed breed mongrels by the year 1990.

I remember reading and hearing all this in the Fifties and Sixties. Those segregationists - the male ones at least - probably contributed more to the "mongrelization" processd than anybody else, going back to their impregnation of black girls, either through rape or coercion.

As far as I'm concerned, the "mongrelization," if allowed to run its course, might be the best thing for the human race as a whole. It would certainly eliminate a major point of contention, and I don';t know that there would be any negatives.

 

[3113]

While I agree with and understand the actions taken against these people, I do not like the manner in which the vengance was carried out. There was no artistry, no subtlety and no imagination being used.

Very true. I think you should come up with a few such ideas and spread them around so that next time such vengeance isn't done so crassly.

 

[Handley_Page]

Probably a spur-of-the-moment decision?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Gee whiz, folks. Isn't anybody going to say anything about the civil rights of the WBC being violated? Just think, somebody committed a tort against them because they speak their minds, and nobody has complained about the commission.

I certainly won't. Sugar in their gas tanks might have been better.

 

[SeaCat]

Very true. I think you should come up with a few such ideas and spread them around so that next time such vengeance isn't done so crassly.

Off the top of my head, minor indignities.

Capsaicin in the seat covers.

Rewire the heater in the van so all that is activated is the A/C, at full blast.

Removal or addition of weights to the tires making them off balance.

Powdered Fiberglass in the Heater Vents.

Drain the Tranny Fluid or the Engine Oil.

Timed odor release inside the van.

Replace the license plate with a stolen plate.

With a little thought their travels could be changed to trips through hell.

Cat

 

[TE999]

Off the top of my head, minor indignities.

Capsaicin in the seat covers.

Rewire the heater in the van so all that is activated is the A/C, at full blast.

Removal or addition of weights to the tires making them off balance.

Powdered Fiberglass in the Heater Vents.

Drain the Tranny Fluid or the Engine Oil.

Timed odor release inside the van.

Replace the license plate with a stolen plate.

With a little thought their travels could be changed to trips through hell.

Cat

Added to that:

Super Glue in the keyholes.

Loosen or remove spark plug wires.

Loosen oil pan and tranny housing plugs...20 miles down the road...Boom!

Loosen the lug nuts on right rear and left front wheels...same effect.

Potato in the exhaust pipe.

Two words: Live skunk.

 

[bronzeage]

Gee whiz, folks. Isn't anybody going to say anything about the civil rights of the WBC being violated? Just think, somebody committed a tort against them because they speak their minds, and nobody has complained about the commission.

I certainly won't. Sugar in their gas tanks might have been better.

In this case, it wasn't civil rights. It was a case of criminal vandalism.

Someone committed a crime against their property. This is the kind of treatment usually reserved for voter registration workers and union organizers.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Gee whiz, folks. Isn't anybody going to say anything about the civil rights of the WBC being violated? Just think, somebody committed a tort against them because they speak their minds, and nobody has complained about the commission.

I certainly won't. Sugar in their gas tanks might have been better.

In this case, it wasn't civil rights. It was a case of criminal vandalism.

Someone committed a crime against their property. This is the kind of treatment usually reserved for voter registration workers and union organizers.

It's true it was criminal vandalism or malicious mischief, depending on the wording of the state or local laws. However, it was perpetrated against them because the WBC was exercising what the courts have ruled are their civil rights.

It's also done by union organizers against scabs and people who don't want to join their unions.

 

[3113]

somebody committed a tort against them because they speak their minds, and nobody has complained about the commission.

Seriously, on this issue, legally they may be speaking their mind, but they and we all know that's not what they're really doing. If they were marching up and down in front of some Federal building or company or whatever, we could all see that as "speaking their mind." They could easily do what they do in front of recruiting centers, etc. which immediately implies speaking your mind about something that the government or people in general are doing that you don't agree with.

But these people attack mourners at their most vulnerable time, a time they feel should be private and respected. They harass and verbally abuse strangers in the hope of psychologically and emotionally wearing people down. And these strangers have no power at that moment to change anything, so the implication is that these people are trying to "punish" them for what they didn't do--whatever these people think that was, not get someone in power or even voters to change what is.

Which is why legally it may be "speaking their mind," but it comes across as bullying. And bullying loses you sympathy even when everyone will agree that what was done to you wasn't legal or right.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
somebody committed a tort against them because they speak their minds, and nobody has complained about the commission.

Seriously, on this issue, legally they may be speaking their mind, but they and we all know that's not what they're really doing. If they were marching up and down in front of some Federal building or company or whatever, we could all see that as "speaking their mind." They could easily do what they do in front of recruiting centers, etc. which immediately implies speaking your mind about something that the government or people in general are doing that you don't agree with.

But these people attack mourners at their most vulnerable time, a time they feel should be private and respected. They harass and verbally abuse strangers in the hope of psychologically and emotionally wearing people down. And these strangers have no power at that moment to change anything, so the implication is that these people are trying to "punish" them for what they didn't do--whatever these people think that was, not get someone in power or even voters to change what is.

Which is why legally it may be "speaking their mind," but it comes across as bullying. And bullying loses you sympathy even when everyone will agree that what was done to you wasn't legal or right.

Of course. My post, which you did not cite in full, was sarcastic. I also commented to the effect the WBC members were the most hated people in America, with the possible exception of Muslim terrorists.

 

[Liar]

I wonder if there wouldn't be non destructive and legal ways to mess with them that would be funnier. You know, just to keep the high ground.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I remember reading and hearing all this in the Fifties and Sixties. Those segregationists - the male ones at least - probably contributed more to the "mongrelization" processd than anybody else, going back to their impregnation of black girls, either through rape or coercion.

As far as I'm concerned, the "mongrelization," if allowed to run its course, might be the best thing for the human race as a whole. It would certainly eliminate a major point of contention, and I don';t know that there would be any negatives.

The historical record indicates it was white girlz doing most of the mongrelization. Its true.

Every time the old man or daddy took a trip the girlz got raped but the dogs never made a fuss.

Ina generation or two blacks will be absorbed into the white race like happened in Spain.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I wonder if there wouldn't be non destructive and legal ways to mess with them that would be funnier. You know, just to keep the high ground.

There are, and we have had posts about it. If they can be turned into laughing stocks, that would frustrate them more than violence. Slashing their tires and refusing to provide any aid is a way to do this, but not as legal as some other ways.

 

[Tyro999]

Of course. My post, which you did not cite in full, was sarcastic. I also commented to the effect the WBC members were the most hated people in America, with the possible exception of Muslim terrorists.

Just a FWIW:

http://www.cityofmcalester.com/

"McAlester is the trade center for Southeastern Oklahoma, served by a rural population base of more than 130,000. McAlester is linked north to south by U.S. 69 and the Indian Nation Turnpike and linked east to west by U.S. 270 and Oklahoma State Hwy. 31.

Whether you visit for business or pleasure, McAlester’s combination of big-city amenities and small town Charm beckons you to visit and stay forever. Experience the warm hospitality of McAlester’s people, fine restaurants and choice lodging accommodations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlester,_Oklahoma

"McAlester is a city in Pittsburg County, Oklahoma, United States. The population was 17,783 at the 2000 census. It is the county seat of Pittsburg County.[3] It is currently the largest city in the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, followed by Durant.

The town gets its name from J.J. McAlester, who was immortalized as a character in the novel True Grit, which was then made into a movie starring John Wayne.

McAlester is the home of the Oklahoma State Penitentiary, site of an "inside the walls" prison rodeo from which ESPN's SportsCenter once broadcast. Sometimes Oklahomans refer to the state prison simply as "Big Mac," and the town is referenced in that manner in the opening pages of The Grapes of Wrath when Tom Joad is released from there. The prison was also the site of a 1973 riot that lasted for days and is generally regarded as one of the worst in American history.[4]

McAlester is also the home of many of the employees of the nearby McAlester Army Ammunition Plant. This facility makes essentially all of the bombs used by the United States military. In 1998 McAlester became the home of the Defense Ammunition Center (DAC) which moved from Savanna, Illinois and relocated as a tenant on McAlester Army Ammunition Plant.

McAlester is known in political circles for having been the home base of two noted American politicians - U.S. Speaker of the House Carl Albert, who was once a heartbeat from the presidency, and longtime Oklahoma State Senator Gene Stipe, whose career ended in a series of legal problems. Former Oklahoma Governor George Nigh also hailed from McAlester. McAlester is still known in Oklahoma as the "Capital of Little Dixie," for its old-time Democratic politics."

With that background on the "small town Charm" of McAlester, it is MHO that in the unlikely case that the WBC vandal were ever identified and prosecuted, the jury of his peers would not only find the accused not guilty, but would take up a collection for a reward for "service above and beyond the call of duty."