Ward Churchill to be Fired...

[Zeb_Carter]

WARD CHURCHILL TO BE FIRED

Remember this guy? Ward Churchill is a professor at the University of Colorado. Some time back, he wrote a paper that basically said the victims of 9/11 deserved what they got. He called them "Little Eichmanns," comparing them to the architect of the Nazi Holocaust, Adolf Eichmann. As you may recall, this didn't go over too well.

Much upheaval has followed at the University of Colorado....but their investigation is finally done. The chancellor of the university says Churchill should be fired. Churchill has 10 days to plead his case, then he'll be canned. The charges against him include "serious, repeated, and deliberate research misconduct," whatever that means. Evidently the good professor is known for borrowing other people's work and making it his own.

I say keep him on! Don't fire him for what he said about the 3,000 people who died on 9/11. He should be left right where he is, dispensing his leftist hatred on a daily basis. Why, you ask? Because we need guys like Ward Churchill to remind us all just what these leftist college faculties are like. In fact, he shouldn't be fired...he should be promoted. Give him an even larger forum for his insane rantings. Let more people hear what he has to say.

You can bet Churchill will sue on the grounds of freedom of speech protections. Why spend the money fighting the lawsuit? Just keep him right where he is. Besides ... if they fire him, he'll just end up at Yale or Harvard.

 

[Antfarmer77]

WARD CHURCHILL TO BE FIRED

Churchill has 10 days to plead his case, then he'll be canned.

I'd rather he be caned

 

[Boota]

As ignorant and repugnant as his comments were, he shouldn't be fired over them. After all, you have to protect the speech you hate in order to assure protecting the speech you support.

The fact that he is facing firing over these comments is indicative that the universities you are deriding as leftist hatemongers seem to have the same offended sensibilities as you are claiming. What's with the fear of freedom of speech? Why the fear of the educated?

I'm an intelligent enough person to be exposed to speech I disagree with and still maintain my own ideas and not be swayed. I would tend to think that college students are much the same. When you call victims of a tragedy of which they had no collusion "Little Eichmanns" you have pretty much tipped your hand to the audience. You're not going to trick anyone into thinking you're anything but a crackpot.

 

[Recidiva]

No, maybe he shouldn't be fired, but I've seen this guy interviewed.

He's not too bright. He shows a lot of signs of really twitchy schizophrenia.

He can't answer direct questions and needs to be constantly redirected.

I wouldn't be surprised if the accusations regarding his professional habits are true.

 

[S-Des]

As ignorant and repugnant as his comments were, he shouldn't be fired over them. After all, you have to protect the speech you hate in order to assure protecting the speech you support.

The fact that he is facing firing over these comments is indicative that the universities you are deriding as leftist hatemongers seem to have the same offended sensibilities as you are claiming. What's with the fear of freedom of speech? Why the fear of the educated?

I'm an intelligent enough person to be exposed to speech I disagree with and still maintain my own ideas and not be swayed. I would tend to think that college students are much the same. When you call victims of a tragedy of which they had no collusion "Little Eichmanns" you have pretty much tipped your hand to the audience. You're not going to trick anyone into thinking you're anything but a crackpot.

This is one of those media stories. You never know quite what to believe. He got famous for his comment about 9/11, but that was supposedly not in the classroom. According to an interview I saw this week, he's kind of a bullshit artist and got into the college on some questionable credentials. He has been getting by with things that weren't totally approved for years, but the attention he got over his comments started people digging.

Should he be fired for his comments, no. In fact, he couldn't be (the university would get it's ass sued off). Like with most people, his comments were a reflection of much deeper problems in his life. Too many people get the opportunity to teach kids (and I'm old enough to call college students kids) without deserving it. It "appears" that is the situation here. Media outlets are so bad at checking facts or just reporting what looks sexy, it may be something that's never clear. Most of them will always talk about him as the 9/11 guy, even if that has nothing to do with the university's decision.

 

[Xelebes]

I'd rather he be caned

What if he's such a lefty and enjoys it?

 

[Boota]

If he fudged his resume and got hired on phony credentials or something like that, of course he should be fired. But firing him for anything he has to say is wrong, and illegal. I saw an interview with the guy and the impression I got from him was that he was only in it for the shock value. Does that kind of person make the best professor? Probably not. But I think that the vast majority of people, especially college students, can recognize someone who is THAT full of shit. Maybe if he were clever and was hiding his real agenda very well he could be dangerous, but this guy is the equivalent of the psycho on the bus running around screaming, "My hair is made out of pudding! Taste it! Taste it!"

Only the dolts are going to taste the hair pudding.

 

[Recidiva]

If he fudged his resume and got hired on phony credentials or something like that, of course he should be fired. But firing him for anything he has to say is wrong, and illegal. I saw an interview with the guy and the impression I got from him was that he was only in it for the shock value. Does that kind of person make the best professor? Probably not. But I think that the vast majority of people, especially college students, can recognize someone who is THAT full of shit. Maybe if he were clever and was hiding his real agenda very well he could be dangerous, but this guy is the equivalent of the psycho on the bus running around screaming, "My hair is made out of pudding! Taste it! Taste it!"

Only the dolts are going to taste the hair pudding.

*Pepsi spew*

 

[Zeb_Carter]

He is not being fired for his controversial essay but for ... and I quote...

An academic panel found that the controversial essay was protected speech, but that Churchill had committed research misconduct and plagiarism in his writings on Native American history.

Some members of that panel warned that firing Churchill could chill political speech on campus, but a second panel recommended termination.