Wagging their tales behind them.

[annaswirls]

Help!

I need a poem. Or an inspirational reading.

Something that brings to mind the following:

don't be like sheep,
blindly following a shephard!

Find your own way--

learn through living,
listening
experimenting


take the shephards advice
but do what is right for you


Things like that.


oh please if something pops into your head, gimme gimme gimme


hmm

Maybe I will just use Bo-Peep. It is quite philosophical, spiritual even


Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep
and doesn't know where to find them
Leave them alone, and they'll come home
Wagging their tails behind them.

hmm

 

[jthserra]

All that comes to mind...

Haruki Murakami's "A Wild Sheep Chase" an interesting and offbeat novel, one of Murakami's best.


jim : )

 

[twelveoone]

Help!

I need a poem. Or an inspirational reading.

Something that brings to mind the following:

don't be like sheep,
blindly following a shephard!

Find your own way--

learn through living,
listening
experimenting


take the shephards advice
but do what is right for you


Things like that.


oh please if something pops into your head, gimme gimme gimme


hmm

Maybe I will just use Bo-Peep. It is quite philosophical, spiritual even


Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep
and doesn't know where to find them
Leave them alone, and they'll come home
Wagging their tails behind them.

hmm

I think Uncle Pervey covered Bo Peep

 

[BooMerengue]

Re: Re: Wagging their tales behind them.

I think Uncle Pervey covered Bo Peep

From what I know of Pervey, he probably covered her AND her sheep!

I'll try and do something, Anna. I can't sleep- sometimes thats a good time to write; sometimes not.

 

[Tathagata]

Then said a teacher, "Speak to us of Teaching."
And he said: No man can reveal to you aught but that which already lies half asleep in the dawning of your knowledge. The teacher who walks in the shadow of the temple, among his followers, gives not of his wisdom but rather of his faith and his lovingness. If he is indeed wise he does not bid you enter the house of his wisdom, but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind. The astronomer may speak to you of his under standing of space, but he cannot give you his under standing. The musician may sing to you of the rhythm which is in all space, but he cannot give you the ear which arrests the rhythm, nor the voice that echoes it. And he who is versed in the science of numbers can tell of the regions of weight and measure, but he cannot conduct you thither.

For the vision of one man lends not its wings to another man.

And even as each one of you stands alone in God's knowledge, so must each one of you be alone in his knowledge of God and in his under standing of the earth.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


In Pali, the Buddha's reply is recorded as:

Ma anussavena: Do not believe something just because it has been passed along and retold for many generations. [Simpler: Do not be led by what you are told.]

Ma paramparaya: Do not believe something merely because it has become a traditional practice. [Do not be led by whatever has been handed down from past generations.]

Ma itikiraya: Do not believe something simply because it is well-known everywhere. [Do not be led by hearsay or common opinion.]

Ma Pitakasampadanena: Do not believe something just because it is cited in a text. [Do not be led by what the scriptures say]

Ma takkahetu: Do not believe something solely on the grounds of logical reasoning. [Do not be led by mere logic.]

Ma nayahetu: Do not believe something merely because it accords with your philosophy. [Do not be led by mere deduction or inference.]

Ma akaraparivitakkena: Do not believe something because it appeals to "common sense". [Do not be led by considering only outward appearance.]

Ma ditthinijjhanakkhantiya: Do not believe something just because you like the idea. [Do not be led by preconceived notions (and the theory reflected as an approval)]

Ma bhabbarupataya: Do not believe something because the speaker seems trustworthy. [Do not be led by what seems acceptable; do not be led by what some seeming believable one says.]

Ma samano no garu ti: Do not believe something thinking, "This is what our teacher says". [Do not be led by what your teacher tells you it is so.]

Kalamas, when you yourselves directly know, "This is [these things are] unwholesome, this is blameworthy, this is condemned or censured by the wise, these things when accepted and practised lead to poverty and harm and suffering," then you should give them up.

Kalamas, when you yourselves directly know, "These things are wholesome, blameless, praised by the wise; when adopted and carried out they lead to well-being, prosperity and happiness," then you should accept and practise them."

 

[foehn]

In Pali, the Buddha's reply is recorded as: ...

... and if one practices all that, dear Tath, will it lead a dedicated spirit toward a resemblance of your avatar?

Anna, I fear I don't understand the nature of your request. You want to read a poem? Write a poem? Many poems? Inspirational readings on individualism? Poems, essays written for you here? I'm sorry, I'm a complete dolt sometimes.

If you want to read a cool poem that may brush against that theme, if slightly, try Googling "The Untelling" and then go to a library to read it.

I hate seeing you in distress...

 

[Tathagata]

... and if one practices all that, dear Tath, will it lead a dedicated spirit toward a resemblance of your avatar?


I hate seeing you in distress...

my avatar is a fairly close representation of where my monkey mind is on the path...
I have learned enough to sit on a rock





And I hate seeing anna in distress too
I'd radder see her in dat dress

 

[annaswirls]

... and if one practices all that, dear Tath, will it lead a dedicated spirit toward a resemblance of your avatar?

Anna, I fear I don't understand the nature of your request. You want to read a poem? Write a poem? Many poems? Inspirational readings on individualism? Poems, essays written for you here? I'm sorry, I'm a complete dolt sometimes.

If you want to read a cool poem that may brush against that theme, if slightly, try Googling "The Untelling" and then go to a library to read it.

I hate seeing you in distress...

I am a worship associate at our church. I will be leading service on the 30th, not doing the sermon, just the rest. I need a reading to match his sermon (the meaning of pastor, from pasture, leading the sheep--- people in my church are far from sheep. That is his sermon.)

I always read a poem for one of the readings or a meditation. ee cummings was the last one I read



dont worry I am always frantic.

oop distressed.

it is the only way I stay awake.

 

[annaswirls]

Then said a teacher, "Speak to us of Teaching."
And he said: No man can reveal to you aught but that which already lies half asleep in the dawning of your knowledge. The teacher who walks in the shadow of the temple, among his followers, gives not of his wisdom but rather of his faith and his lovingness. If he is indeed wise he does not bid you enter the house of his wisdom, but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind. The astronomer may speak to you of his under standing of space, but he cannot give you his under standing. The musician may sing to you of the rhythm which is in all space, but he cannot give you the ear which arrests the rhythm, nor the voice that echoes it. And he who is versed in the science of numbers can tell of the regions of weight and measure, but he cannot conduct you thither.

For the vision of one man lends not its wings to another man.

And even as each one of you stands alone in God's knowledge, so must each one of you be alone in his knowledge of God and in his under standing of the earth.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


In Pali, the Buddha's reply is recorded as:

Ma anussavena: Do not believe something just because it has been passed along and retold for many generations. [Simpler: Do not be led by what you are told.]

Ma paramparaya: Do not believe something merely because it has become a traditional practice. [Do not be led by whatever has been handed down from past generations.]

Ma itikiraya: Do not believe something simply because it is well-known everywhere. [Do not be led by hearsay or common opinion.]

Ma Pitakasampadanena: Do not believe something just because it is cited in a text. [Do not be led by what the scriptures say]

Ma takkahetu: Do not believe something solely on the grounds of logical reasoning. [Do not be led by mere logic.]

Ma nayahetu: Do not believe something merely because it accords with your philosophy. [Do not be led by mere deduction or inference.]

Ma akaraparivitakkena: Do not believe something because it appeals to "common sense". [Do not be led by considering only outward appearance.]

Ma ditthinijjhanakkhantiya: Do not believe something just because you like the idea. [Do not be led by preconceived notions (and the theory reflected as an approval)]

Ma bhabbarupataya: Do not believe something because the speaker seems trustworthy. [Do not be led by what seems acceptable; do not be led by what some seeming believable one says.]

Ma samano no garu ti: Do not believe something thinking, "This is what our teacher says". [Do not be led by what your teacher tells you it is so.]

Kalamas, when you yourselves directly know, "This is [these things are] unwholesome, this is blameworthy, this is condemned or censured by the wise, these things when accepted and practised lead to poverty and harm and suffering," then you should give them up.

Kalamas, when you yourselves directly know, "These things are wholesome, blameless, praised by the wise; when adopted and carried out they lead to well-being, prosperity and happiness," then you should accept and practise them."

okay using the first as a reading and the second as a responsive meditation.

whoohooo! Damn you got me out of that T! I owe you big time.


edited to say

OKAY OKAY I DID RESEARCH heheheee
and I read up so I got the answers myself, oh great teacher....


X

 

[foehn]

inappropriate for church

... and nothing to do with anything, but

High Windows -- Phillip Larkin

(I left a comment if you dare...)

 

[annaswirls]

Re: inappropriate for church

... and nothing to do with anything, but

High Windows -- Phillip Larkin

(I left a comment if you dare...)

well not much is inappropriate in our church, all I would have to do is change the fuck and it would be perfect for another service, thanks for pointing us to the site!

 

[Angeline]

When I was a kid my family would take car trips from Joisey to Florida to see the grands. My father was the sole driver, lol, and he hated clars clumping together. He'd say to me (and this is relevant anna)

Look at these cars. They're like sheep, following each other in a flock. All those white sheep, but the black sheep goes its own way. Which would you rather be, a white sheep or a black sheep?

Black was the right answer. I was lucky to have someone to say that to me. I think. lol.

Not a poem but your thread reminded me of that.

 

[annaswirls]

When I was a kid my family would take car trips from Joisey to Florida to see the grands. My father was the sole driver, lol, and he hated clars clumping together. He'd say to me (and this is relevant anna)

Look at these cars. They're like sheep, following each other in a flock. All those white sheep, but the black sheep goes its own way. Which would you rather be, a white sheep or a black sheep?

Black was the right answer. I was lucky to have someone to say that to me. I think. lol.

Not a poem but your thread reminded me of that.

Glad to bring up a nice memory.

Out of curiosity, how did your dad get his car to be able to go his own way? a little off roading?



My parents would have much rather had me be a nice little white sheep, but I think they like my wool as it is, black as night with denim covered legs.