I just submitted my first story. I checked the stats on it and it shows that over 14000 people have viewed my story. If this is so, and I am sure that Literotica's "score" keeping methods are accurate, then why the hell is there only 62 votes??? COME ON PEOPLE, STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELVES LONG ENOUGH TO VOTE!!! WE DON'T WRITE THESE STORIES FOR NOTHING. I WANT TO SEE SOME VOTING! I WANT TO BE ON THE TOP LIST! COME ON... VOTE ALREADY!!!
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ksmybuttons
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There's stories here?!
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I think you are doing very well. I have one that has 55,944 views and only 97 votes.
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If you frequent the boards very often, you will find that many of the people here rarely read the stories after they find the board.
Other than reading the new ones by people i interact with on the boards, i haven't read a story in months. Those tens of thousands of readers you're imploring to vote aren't here on the boards, they're the annonymous people cruising through for masturbation material that don't have a known presence elsewhere on the site.
Other than reading the new ones by people i interact with on the boards, i haven't read a story in months. Those tens of thousands of readers you're imploring to vote aren't here on the boards, they're the annonymous people cruising through for masturbation material that don't have a known presence elsewhere on the site.
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PumpinIt said:
Quit your crying, you sound like a little bitch.
Post a link for chrissakes
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Chicklet said:(watch the poor virgin get totally bashed now)
You can't effectively bash someone who posts and runs.
It's a non-consent story. I couldn't read it, so I can't vote. I like my sex, even in fantasy, consentual...
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ksmybuttons said:You can't effectively bash someone who posts and runs.
It's a non-consent story. I couldn't read it, so I can't vote. I like my sex, even in fantasy, consentual...
Is oral consent enough?
And you both have me beat, 8,500 views and 20 votes....
Somehow I think a story "just submitted" is extremely unlikely to have the numbers suggested............possible, but only in the same way flying elephants are.
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PumpinIt:
"COME ON PEOPLE, STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELVES LONG ENOUGH TO VOTE!!! WE DON'T WRITE THESE STORIES FOR NOTHING. I WANT TO SEE SOME VOTING! I WANT TO BE ON THE TOP LIST! COME ON... VOTE ALREADY!!!"
I predict someone will be back in a day complaining about the sudden rush of '1' votes.
"COME ON PEOPLE, STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELVES LONG ENOUGH TO VOTE!!! WE DON'T WRITE THESE STORIES FOR NOTHING. I WANT TO SEE SOME VOTING! I WANT TO BE ON THE TOP LIST! COME ON... VOTE ALREADY!!!"
I predict someone will be back in a day complaining about the sudden rush of '1' votes.
At least...
At least I know my post was read. As for post and run... wrong answer. I'm just not with my computer all the time.
Since I am new to the boards I am not sure how to do the fancy pictures to the side or how to post a link to my story. Glad to see all the response here though.
In response to "you should write because you want to write, not for votes" that's why there is voting??? It is a contest after all. A monthly contest. If someone just wanted to write, they wouldn't bother to "publish" it. They would keep it to them selves. You think that Stephen King writes because he loves to write? He may have started out with that intention, but trust me... it's just another job to him by now. And... if that were the case his books wouldn't be $9 paperback. By buying his book, you are essentially "voting" for him.
Glad to meet you guys... maybe I'll just stick to the boards. Make some friends here(???) if that's possible.
At least I know my post was read. As for post and run... wrong answer. I'm just not with my computer all the time.Since I am new to the boards I am not sure how to do the fancy pictures to the side or how to post a link to my story. Glad to see all the response here though.
In response to "you should write because you want to write, not for votes" that's why there is voting??? It is a contest after all. A monthly contest. If someone just wanted to write, they wouldn't bother to "publish" it. They would keep it to them selves. You think that Stephen King writes because he loves to write? He may have started out with that intention, but trust me... it's just another job to him by now. And... if that were the case his books wouldn't be $9 paperback. By buying his book, you are essentially "voting" for him.
Glad to meet you guys... maybe I'll just stick to the boards. Make some friends here(???) if that's possible.
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Re: At least...
Well even a title would have been nice. Anyway, the easiest way to post a link is to go to the story and copy the url then while you're writing your post look up to where all the little boxes are and click on http:// that'll walk you through the rest of the copy and paste process and you'll end up with something that should eventually look like this:
It Was An Accident by PumpinIt
Well I write for the good of all mankind, but you have a point. No seriously you can't worry too much about votes. That lies the way to madness (Don't remember who said that offhand, but it's definately a quote; I'm not that good a writer. Probably Shakespeare or the Bible, maybe Jackie Collins...) Anyhow, votes are nice--especially when you earn that red H--so's winning a contest, but there are thousands of stories on this site and all but a handful are not going to be earning their authors a check or even votes. There're a ton of discussions about that over in the Author's Hangout, here too, do a search with the word votes and you'll see what I mean.
Chicklet probably remembers this exactly, but it's only like two or three percent that actually vote. You sound like you've done well with 62. I rarely get that many on any of my stories nor do I get your kind of reads, but then I write romance and that's not a big category like nonconsent.
So regardless of whether Stephen King has turned into a mercenary bastard, to post here, you better love to write. There are other perks of course. You get to correspond with a wide variety of interesting people from the Christian zealots who tell you they're praying for your immortal soul to burn in Hell forever to the folks who want to come in your face and a heck of lot who fall somewhere inbetween. You also can hang out with your fellow authors who can be charming and vicious all in the same sentence, but never, ever boring. Well okay, I'm boring, but like I said, I write romance, it's a job requirement.
Glad to meet you too. And yes, it's a tough crowd around here, but it's possible to make friends. Just don't take anything personally and make sure you remember not to call Svenskaflicka, Sven.
Good luck.
Jayne
PumpinIt said:
Since I am new to the boards I am not sure how to do the fancy pictures to the side or how to post a link to my story. Glad to see all the response here though.
Well even a title would have been nice
. Anyway, the easiest way to post a link is to go to the story and copy the url then while you're writing your post look up to where all the little boxes are and click on http:// that'll walk you through the rest of the copy and paste process and you'll end up with something that should eventually look like this:It Was An Accident by PumpinIt
Well I write for the good of all mankind, but you have a point. No seriously you can't worry too much about votes. That lies the way to madness (Don't remember who said that offhand, but it's definately a quote; I'm not that good a writer. Probably Shakespeare or the Bible, maybe Jackie Collins...) Anyhow, votes are nice--especially when you earn that red H--so's winning a contest, but there are thousands of stories on this site and all but a handful are not going to be earning their authors a check or even votes. There're a ton of discussions about that over in the Author's Hangout, here too, do a search with the word votes and you'll see what I mean.
Chicklet probably remembers this exactly, but it's only like two or three percent that actually vote. You sound like you've done well with 62. I rarely get that many on any of my stories nor do I get your kind of reads, but then I write romance and that's not a big category like nonconsent.
So regardless of whether Stephen King has turned into a mercenary bastard, to post here, you better love to write. There are other perks of course. You get to correspond with a wide variety of interesting people from the Christian zealots who tell you they're praying for your immortal soul to burn in Hell forever to the folks who want to come in your face and a heck of lot who fall somewhere inbetween. You also can hang out with your fellow authors who can be charming and vicious all in the same sentence, but never, ever boring. Well okay, I'm boring, but like I said, I write romance, it's a job requirement.
Glad to meet you too. And yes, it's a tough crowd around here, but it's possible to make friends. Just don't take anything personally and make sure you remember not to call Svenskaflicka, Sven.
Good luck.
Jayne
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Wow. I don't think I've ever posted on a thread that has been moved before. Cool. I guess there is more than one way to get to take a tour of the forums.
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This was originally in the GB, wasn't it?
This is normal voting procedure, pumpin it. You have a voting response ratio of about 10,000 to 1. For every 10,000 views, there is 1 vote. Or so.
This is normal voting procedure, pumpin it. You have a voting response ratio of about 10,000 to 1. For every 10,000 views, there is 1 vote. Or so.
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Re: Re: At least...
Wow I'm impressed with your faith in me...
Just wanted to add that I think almost every author that reads erotica here remembers to vote, and they're the one's I care the most about anyways = )
-Chicklet
jfinn said:
Wow
I'm impressed with your faith in me...Just wanted to add that I think almost every author that reads erotica here remembers to vote, and they're the one's I care the most about anyways = )
-Chicklet
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I hadn't thought of that. As an author, I vote on all stories I read and I would have to agree with you... they are the ones that count the most.
I did manage to start a pretty good topic though with this. I've seen some posts that didn't even get a reply.
I hadn't thought of that. As an author, I vote on all stories I read and I would have to agree with you... they are the ones that count the most.
I did manage to start a pretty good topic though with this. I've seen some posts that didn't even get a reply.
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I only have one more thing to say, really, just one = )
some stories I've had on this site for over a year have less than 60 votes - if your new story had that many so soon, count yourself super, super lucky. keep writing and people will keep reading...whether they're voting or not = )
-Chicklet
some stories I've had on this site for over a year have less than 60 votes - if your new story had that many so soon, count yourself super, super lucky. keep writing and people will keep reading...whether they're voting or not = )
-Chicklet
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" hits" counts everyone who views a story. To vote you have to like it enough to read it to the end. Or, I suppose, hate it enough to scroll to the end.
As a reader, I find the vast majority of stories I open are not interesting enough to me. The subject matter may be not my cuppa tea. The author may tell not show. The writing may just be bad. I generally then hit the 'back' key. Many readers, I suspect , are like me.
If you want to get the votes/hit ratio closer, use very descriptive titles and descriptions. You will dissuade many inappropriate readers, but attract the audience you want.
I just viewed your story. I duidn't vote for it. The absence of dialogue was a major turn-off for me. Rather than vote it down, I exited. If you want me to go back and vote 3, I will.
As a reader, I find the vast majority of stories I open are not interesting enough to me. The subject matter may be not my cuppa tea. The author may tell not show. The writing may just be bad. I generally then hit the 'back' key. Many readers, I suspect , are like me.
If you want to get the votes/hit ratio closer, use very descriptive titles and descriptions. You will dissuade many inappropriate readers, but attract the audience you want.
I just viewed your story. I duidn't vote for it. The absence of dialogue was a major turn-off for me. Rather than vote it down, I exited. If you want me to go back and vote 3, I will.
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I have a story with over 50K views and fewer than 200 votes. The votes aren't what's important, it's the feedback. A vote of 5 dosen't tell you why someone liked it and a vote of one is only aggravating unless the voter takes the time to let you know why it was bad in their opinion.
The best vote I ever got was a 2. It was the best because the voter was a professional writer in my genre (F/F) and took the time to tell me that I got the low vote because I had tons of potential, but my spelling, grammer, constructions, dialogue et al. were awful. She spent about 6 months corresponding with me and helping me with my real problem areas. I still have problems with dialogue, I still use odd constructions, but my interaction with her improved my writing a hundered fold.
Don't sweat your votes, votes per hit or even hits, pay attention to your feedback. Thats where the real rewards are to be found and where the opportunity to improve yourself lies. If you pay attention to that and work from what people are telling you, your vote counts will rise as you become more polished.
-Colly
The best vote I ever got was a 2. It was the best because the voter was a professional writer in my genre (F/F) and took the time to tell me that I got the low vote because I had tons of potential, but my spelling, grammer, constructions, dialogue et al. were awful. She spent about 6 months corresponding with me and helping me with my real problem areas. I still have problems with dialogue, I still use odd constructions, but my interaction with her improved my writing a hundered fold.
Don't sweat your votes, votes per hit or even hits, pay attention to your feedback. Thats where the real rewards are to be found and where the opportunity to improve yourself lies. If you pay attention to that and work from what people are telling you, your vote counts will rise as you become more polished.
-Colly
sirhugs
sirhugs, thanks for you feedback... that helps alot.
i tried writing that same story with dialog, but there was one problem, i don't know the punctuation for dialog writing. it would probably help me in my story writing (i'm completely new to writing and haven't written anything since high school 20 years ago) if i went to the book store and got a punctuation.
sirhugs, thanks for you feedback... that helps alot.
i tried writing that same story with dialog, but there was one problem, i don't know the punctuation for dialog writing. it would probably help me in my story writing (i'm completely new to writing and haven't written anything since high school 20 years ago) if i went to the book store and got a punctuation.
I'm one of those who is always begging my readers to vote. I have even begun to put a plea to that effect at the end of every story I write. Like a lot of things, however, I don't always practice what I preach. If I begin a story and it doesn't catch my imagination, the chances are I will abandon it long before I get to the voting page. Or, if I do read the entire story, but I don't feel that I can give it a 4 or 5, I plead guilty to usually not voting in all. Different strokes for different folks. I don't have any qualifications to be a critic, and just because a story wasn't my cup of tea doesn't prove a damn thing about its quality or worth.
I suspect that there are a lot of readers like me out there. I agree that if you can stir enough passion in the reader that he will write you, you must have must've done something right even if he/she is critical. Beyond feedback, I think the total number of votes a story receives may be more significant than voting averages as the measurement of how well it entertains the readers. If the reader has voted, something in the story at least kept him reading to the end, and that he/she chose to vote, meant that the story touched him/her in some way (even if they didn't particularly like it).
To be honest, however , it may be that my 'total vote' theory is only a matter of personal pride and prejudice. I have a story whose 4.5+ average has now fallen all way over to page 3 of the BDSM top list, but in the year or two that it has been on the site, the story has accumulated 970 votes. As best as I can determine, that is a couple hundred more than any other BDSM story at Literotica. Perhaps it's only my ego, but I believe those 970 votes are a mark of approval more meaningful than a 4.7+ story that has only 5% as many votes.
I suspect that there are a lot of readers like me out there. I agree that if you can stir enough passion in the reader that he will write you, you must have must've done something right even if he/she is critical. Beyond feedback, I think the total number of votes a story receives may be more significant than voting averages as the measurement of how well it entertains the readers. If the reader has voted, something in the story at least kept him reading to the end, and that he/she chose to vote, meant that the story touched him/her in some way (even if they didn't particularly like it).
To be honest, however , it may be that my 'total vote' theory is only a matter of personal pride and prejudice. I have a story whose 4.5+ average has now fallen all way over to page 3 of the BDSM top list, but in the year or two that it has been on the site, the story has accumulated 970 votes. As best as I can determine, that is a couple hundred more than any other BDSM story at Literotica. Perhaps it's only my ego, but I believe those 970 votes are a mark of approval more meaningful than a 4.7+ story that has only 5% as many votes.
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970 votes is extremely impressive, I have yet to see 200 on any of mine. I notice almost all of yours also carry the pink H as well
Number of votes has to have some significance. I think also your generally high vote totals also indicates a level of excellence in your works that probably does encourage people to finish the story.
The non voting portion of the readership is kind of a double edged sword. You like seeing all the reads but you wonder why you get so few votes. I tend to think my average is better off because they don't vote. If your work moves a reader to vote it is probably because it envoked some strong feeling good or bad. I think people will tend to act on the ones that move them in a good way more often than those that move them in a bad way or don't touch them at all. If you are really worried about your vote average apathy at least dosen't hurt.
Grats on 970 votes and I hope you get to see 1000 sometime soon. I won't even aspire to that. Im 33 and at the rate I accumulate votes I probably won't be around by the time any of mine hit 500, much less 1000.
-Colly
Number of votes has to have some significance. I think also your generally high vote totals also indicates a level of excellence in your works that probably does encourage people to finish the story.
The non voting portion of the readership is kind of a double edged sword. You like seeing all the reads but you wonder why you get so few votes. I tend to think my average is better off because they don't vote. If your work moves a reader to vote it is probably because it envoked some strong feeling good or bad. I think people will tend to act on the ones that move them in a good way more often than those that move them in a bad way or don't touch them at all. If you are really worried about your vote average apathy at least dosen't hurt.
Grats on 970 votes and I hope you get to see 1000 sometime soon. I won't even aspire to that. Im 33 and at the rate I accumulate votes I probably won't be around by the time any of mine hit 500, much less 1000.
-Colly
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I agree, I think we all are experiencing this. One would think that if you took the time to read you could take the time to comment, I don't read here often, but when something strikes my fancy I always comment, I love the feedback and I can only assume other authors feel the same.
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