Votes vs Views

Rattlesnake1775

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So this might be a silly question, and maybe (as with all topics regarding Lit) it has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it...anyways, here goes...

If you go into your little submissions view, and you look at how many votes and how many views a story you have posted has, how can a story have more votes then views? Are some people voting and backing up, voting again and backing up?

Just wondering...
 
Rattlesnake1775 said:
So this might be a silly question, and maybe (as with all topics regarding Lit) it has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it...anyways, here goes...

If you go into your little submissions view, and you look at how many votes and how many views a story you have posted has, how can a story have more votes then views? Are some people voting and backing up, voting again and backing up?

Just wondering...

Your vote total is updated in real time: as soon as the vote is registered, it shows up on your submissions page.

Views are only updated a couple of times a day, so sometimes they lag.
 
Yeah, what Cloudy said!

One thing I find strange about the number of votes versus views is how little readers actually do vote... at least for me, that is. I'm still sort of newish here, but my stories have over 100,000 views so far... but only 279 have voted to date.

When I've read stories here, I've voted almost every time. I like getting feedback and try to give some back... but apparently it's not the same for more readers.
 
Louise Brown said:
One thing I find strange about the number of votes versus views is how little readers actually do vote... at least for me, that is. I'm still sort of newish here, but my stories have over 100,000 views so far... but only 279 have voted to date.

When I've read stories here, I've voted almost every time. I like getting feedback and try to give some back... but apparently it's not the same for more readers.
Well, actually, the 'views' do not mean they read the story. Only that they opened the file. If they bail partway through, or just notice the thing is seven pages long and split, it's still a 'view.' Hitting a link mistakenly would give you a 'view' when they didn't even look at it except to say, "Shit, wrong button."
 
cantdog said:
Well, actually, the 'views' do not mean they read the story. Only that they opened the file. If they bail partway through, or just notice the thing is seven pages long and split, it's still a 'view.' Hitting a link mistakenly would give you a 'view' when they didn't even look at it except to say, "Shit, wrong button."

Shit, wrong thread!

:cathappy:

(my bad)
 
cantdog said:
Well, actually, the 'views' do not mean they read the story. Only that they opened the file. If they bail partway through, or just notice the thing is seven pages long and split, it's still a 'view.' Hitting a link mistakenly would give you a 'view' when they didn't even look at it except to say, "Shit, wrong button."
True... but it's still discouraging, a bit, to think that 99.7% of the people who look at a story won't vote on it. Even if 90,000 of the 100,000 hits are in error, 279 out of 10,000 actual readers still doesn't give much of a return ratio. (Sorry, professional habit... math teacher, here.)

Guess I should just be happy with the ones who do read stories all the way through, at least.
 
A miniscule fraction of a percent is the usual figure. Nothing says they have to vote, I suppose. If more of them did, I have the feeling a "3" would really BE "average" and the little red H's would be very rare, indeed.
 
Louise Brown said:
True... but it's still discouraging, a bit, to think that 99.7% of the people who look at a story won't vote on it. Even if 90,000 of the 100,000 hits are in error, 279 out of 10,000 actual readers still doesn't give much of a return ratio. (Sorry, professional habit... math teacher, here.)

Guess I should just be happy with the ones who do read stories all the way through, at least.
Teach, I did a little research on my submissions:

Number Of
Votes Views
----- ----- -----
26 45252 0.06%
35 54856 0.06%
70 76225 0.09%
65 59402 0.11%
44 26038 0.17%
11 5935 0.19%
64 30606 0.21%
15 6220 0.24%
25 9638 0.26%
67 21640 0.31%
21 6595 0.32%
182 51288 0.35%
90 24764 0.36%
51 13134 0.39%
79 20321 0.39%
117 29157 0.40%
14 3469 0.40%
72 17319 0.42%
68 16207 0.42%
28 5653 0.50%
26 5246 0.50%
52 10430 0.50%
21 3945 0.53%
20 3716 0.54%
46 6410 0.72%
13 950 1.37%


The only store that more than one percent of the view were voters was the on that had the fewest views.
 
A breakdown by categories is instructive, too. The readers in some cats vote a lot more than in others. None of them reach 1% after the story has left the "new" lists, though. You can have the highest percentages going during the actual run of a contest, but in a few months it drops off to a more normal proportion.
 
I think you're onto something in the categories thing. Everybody knows about the Loving Wives mafia, but I think in other genres there's probably a more..."informed" (?) readership, especially in those sections that don't get the audience that others do (horror, etc.).

It truly is discouraging how few people vote. Seriously, even if 3 becomes average, and the 'H' becomes more rare, wouldn't that serve the point? The 'H' is suppossed to be rare. But I think that most 'readers' just read and that a lot of 'authors' vote. Plus some readers, which gives you your number. Maybe there needs to be a 'bailed early' vote option.

And yes, I'm a misguided child of uncle sam.
 
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