Voice

[wildsweetone]

how do you get 'voice' into your poetry? is it something you consciously work at or does it just happen?

 

[eagleyez]

keep the muse well fed, supply him with cigars and brandy, a comfy chair in the corner.

voice will tumble down
all around

 

[The_Fool]

keep the muse well fed, supply him with cigars and brandy, a comfy chair in the corner.

voice will tumble down
all around

Sounds like the same muse I have, except he drinks all my whiskey.

 

[wildsweetone]

keep the muse well fed, supply him with cigars and brandy, a comfy chair in the corner.

voice will tumble down
all around

*makes a yellow sticky to pick up brandy today*

nice to see you eagleyez!

now see, you're a prime example, VOICE really does just seem to tumble from your poetry.

 

[eagleyez]

*makes a yellow sticky to pick up brandy today*

nice to see you eagleyez!

now see, you're a prime example, VOICE really does just seem to tumble from your poetry.

It depends I suppose- for me, a shoddy poet but a fair shake with a story, the Voice of the piece often is multipositioned. Characters are like magnets to me, on the bus, supermarkets, cops in donut shops, bad boys, good girls, bad girls...they all lend vocals, but the voice that turns the ignition key and drives worlds into the turning page...this an effemeral, whinsome, yet stubborn talker.

There are more texts in University libraries labed "The narrative voice," of such and such protaganst.

I just defalt to keeping him happy, waking him with a blare of his favorite song-
Or putting him to sleep as he gazes at the Kabuki dancers.


Thanks for the nice comments.

 

[eagleyez]

Sounds like the same muse I have, except he drinks all my whiskey.

Does he wear a greenish plaid vest, a crumpled Sinatra hat?

About 3ft tall ,a belly full of beans , and a dinasoaur set of pipes. Ahem...

Little fella gets around.

 

[Liar]

how do you get 'voice' into your poetry? is it something you consciously work at or does it just happen?

How would you not?

 

[Liar]

"Voice" is nothing but the sum impression of your writings prosocics, semantic choices and textual dimensions, and your choice of subjects, based on your perspective and experiences.

Everything you write, say, paint or in other ways create to express yourself, has voice. If you try to create something in a different voice, that something beomes a part of your total body of voice.

There is no escape from the THE VOICE!! Muahahah...

 

[Maria2394]

when you all get technical like this, it cinfuses me. I think about voice, written poetry, as an oxymoron, sort of. You could take a piece of poetry and read it without inflection, monotonous, and it will not have the same impact. I think voice has a lot to do with th reader too, IM sure Im wrong, but it just seems that way to me.

Some people here, Anna for example, can write in such a way that she seems to have multiple voices...is this also referred to as a range? enjambments still have me mixed up... when I write, I just work on it until it feels right, then pop it up here and try to get suggestions from people much smarter than I am about such things..\

I will watch this thread closely, maybe I can find a voice that doesnt sound like an old frog




~m

 

[annaswirls]

sometimes the voice of a poem comes from somewhere I have no idea where, I wrote one in an 18th Century romantic voice, because I kept waking up hearing the first line so I went with it. Sometime I am in a smart ass mood and that comes through too.

Maria, I think you have multiple voices. I think it is part of being a writer, we focus in on one part of who we are and magnify it-- dig down down down like a well, and that is where the multiple voices come from, different drilling locations. Sometimes it is like strip mining, and that, I would say, would be the general voice of your work.

I think your voice also changes according to the topic or mood of the poem. Your froggie poems have a distinct voice. If someone were to only read your froggie poems, they would eventually be able to pick another one out of a crowd. BUT if someone only read your froggie poems, they would not be able to recognize your voice in something like "she's so raspy" Same with your garden poems. You definately have a range of voices.

I am not so good at identifing anon poems. Sometimes one looks familiar, but I have a hard time placing it. I may have range, but I also do the same damn things so often, some people can spot me a mile away.

A mile away. Like the repetition/line stuttering I do sometimes.

 

[wildsweetone]

Sounds like the same muse I have, except he drinks all my whiskey.

sooner or later i'm going to have to try whiskey. it's bound to be an experience and a half.

 

[wildsweetone]

It depends I suppose- for me, a shoddy poet but a fair shake with a story, the Voice of the piece often is multipositioned. Characters are like magnets to me, on the bus, supermarkets, cops in donut shops, bad boys, good girls, bad girls...they all lend vocals, but the voice that turns the ignition key and drives worlds into the turning page...this an effemeral, whinsome, yet stubborn talker.

There are more texts in University libraries labed "The narrative voice," of such and such protaganst.

I just defalt to keeping him happy, waking him with a blare of his favorite song-
Or putting him to sleep as he gazes at the Kabuki dancers.


Thanks for the nice comments.

prose characters come to me fully formed with their own voice.

poetry...? i'm still figuring that out. i don't often write in another character's voice for poetry. i might write in their 'thoughts' but it doesn't seem to come out in tone in the poem. yet.

 

[wildsweetone]

"Voice" is nothing but the sum impression of your writings prosocics, semantic choices and textual dimensions, and your choice of subjects, based on your perspective and experiences. i agree

Everything you write, say, paint or in other ways create to express yourself, has voice. If you try to create something in a different voice, that something beomes a part of your total body of voice.i disagree

There is no escape from the THE VOICE!! Muahahah...

the part i disagree with... have you ever written something that's a one off? an oddball poem that doesn't seem to mix and mingle too well with your others? i've done that, a few times. but the voice used in those poems has not really altered my overall voice.

 

[Liar]

the part i disagree with... have you ever written something that's a one off? an oddball poem that doesn't seem to mix and mingle too well with your others? i've done that, a few times. but the voice used in those poems has not really altered my overall voice.

Welll...yes. But whose voice was it if it wasn't yours?

It's like an impersonator, adding mannerisms and pitch that belongs to someone else. But it's still them, at the heart of it. I heard a factiod (and this could be another one for the Mythbusters to check out) claimimg that a voice impersonator would have a hard time fooling a blind person. They go for the voice "underneath", since that's their primary source of indentification.

Seems to me that you are talking about style. If you can write in many different genres and styles, your voice has range. If you wrote something different by accident, then it could be a matter of losing control of the range. Like a teenage boy jumping from soprano to alt. Or like me trying to sing on a bad cold. (It's a tragic thing to witness. )

 

[Maria2394]

sometimes the voice of a poem comes from somewhere I have no idea where, I wrote one in an 18th Century romantic voice, because I kept waking up hearing the first line so I went with it. Sometime I am in a smart ass mood and that comes through too.

Maria, I think you have multiple voices. I think it is part of being a writer, we focus in on one part of who we are and magnify it-- dig down down down like a well, and that is where the multiple voices come from, different drilling locations. Sometimes it is like strip mining, and that, I would say, would be the general voice of your work.

I think your voice also changes according to the topic or mood of the poem. Your froggie poems have a distinct voice. If someone were to only read your froggie poems, they would eventually be able to pick another one out of a crowd. BUT if someone only read your froggie poems, they would not be able to recognize your voice in something like "she's so raspy" Same with your garden poems. You definately have a range of voices.

I am not so good at identifing anon poems. Sometimes one looks familiar, but I have a hard time placing it. I may have range, but I also do the same damn things so often, some people can spot me a mile away.

A mile away. Like the repetition/line stuttering I do sometimes.

Have I told you lately that I love you? I mean it Anna, yOU know me so well, and you accept me...you are such a wonderful understanding friend. Youve taught me so much and part of that is to accept all my multiple voices. sometimes I wish they would shut up, but when they do, it scares the hell out of me, like an opera singer who has lost her voice.

Im going to the beach, taking hubby some metals he cant get down there. will see you when I get back...maybe with some cools pics or hopefully, something to write about..



maria