Vivek Ramaswamy proposes raising the voting age to 25

[BrightShinyGirl]

Personally, I think it sounds like a transparent attempt to disenfranchise a huge chunk of solid Democrats.

 

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[BabyBoomer50s]

I don’t agree with raising the voting age to 21 and there are other things he’s said I disagree with as well. I don’t plan on voting for him in the GOP primary. That said, he’s a sharp guy. I do like the way he fielded this question yesterday.

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1690884152856326145?s=46&t=D4wPadUSm31flBzHVSwUxA

Edit: Meant to say “raising the voting age to 25”, not 21. I am ok with the current age of 18. Would not support it being any lower than that.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

There has to be some minimum voting age, because obviously we can’t let toddlers vote, but there is a good case to be made for implementing a maximum voting age. As people get older they become more susceptible to scams, and may be tricked into voting against their self-interest. Young voters have to live with the consequences of their elders’ foolish choices for their entire lives.

 

[Rightguide]

Personally, I think it sounds like a transparent attempt to disenfranchise a huge chunk of solid Democrats.

Just a bold recognition of the lack of maturity, lack of economic and civic knowledge of those below the age of 25 these days.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

John_von_Neumann proposes Vivek Ramaswamy go fuck himself.

 

[Escierto]

There has to be some minimum voting age, because obviously we can’t let toddlers vote, but there is a good case to be made for implementing a maximum voting age. As people get older they become more susceptible to scams, and may be tricked into voting against their self-interest. Young voters have to live with the consequences of their elders’ foolish choices for their entire lives.

I completely agree. I have thought that young people should have five votes with the number of votes diminishing until those over 60 or 70 have zero and are banned from holding office. I am 69 but I loathe old people. They care nothing about the earth or future generations.

 

[DeluxAuto]

"How do you do, fellow kids?"

 

[DeluxAuto]

Just a bold recognition of the lack of maturity, lack of economic and civic knowledge of those below the age of 25 these days.

Shut up, boomer.

 

[Dribble]

Best thing for the country is not allowing any retired person vote. They are done contributing to the Country. Why should they have a say?

 

[butters]

There has to be some minimum voting age, because obviously we can’t let toddlers vote, but there is a good case to be made for implementing a maximum voting age. As people get older they become more susceptible to scams, and may be tricked into voting against their self-interest. Young voters have to live with the consequences of their elders’ foolish choices for their entire lives.

i know a 100-year-old lady close to home who'd take great exception at that.
she has always voted and it's only since Jan 6th and its fallout that she is now thinking about NOT voting, since she was voting republican and thought trump was a catholic and quite the churchman. Women fought and some died for the right to vote...taking that away would be wrong, in my opinion. While i understand that there are people out there i'd far rather see not voting while mentally ill, abusing a substance, or religious zealots, i don't see how it would be practical or possible in most cases and to put an upper limit? yeah, i do think it would be wrong.

education&experience are the largest factors in determining one's ability to see through scams... and that comes from both ends of the age spectrum as well as running throughout

Best thing for the country is not allowing any retired person vote. They are done contributing to the Country. Why should they have a say?

what the holy fuck??!!!

a) they most certainly DO contribute to the country: economically, experience, influence... even the top echelons of politics show exactly how much you are wrong on this. Not ALL elderly people are so out of touch they don't know what fucking day of the week it is; the wiser ones surround themselves with people of all ages and manner of experience just so they CAN stay connected.

The Silver $: Old people frequently spend and spend and spend in ways others don't, simply because they may have no mortgage left to pay, no kids left at home to raise, and an income provided by their own previous labour or that of a spouse, investments made when younger and so on and so forth. Others might sell their houses and move in with their adult children, free, leaving them a lovely disposable nest egg they enjoy spending on pampered pets, clothes, plants for their gardens, paying others to do the sort of jobs they are no longer able to take care of themselves such as decorating or gardening upkeep, electricians and plumbers and builders. Those with the money often invest, often have new work done to their homes, build extensions, new roofs, what have you, paying through the nose on jobs they might have tackled themselves when younger or couldn't spare the money to get done since there was more demand on their incomes. Of course not all old people are in a position to do so, but there are enough to impact the economies of their areas. And what about the jobs involved in care and medicine for the elderly?

for you to so callously write off all elderly people as worthless, to rob them of their voices, is, quite frankly, disgusting!

 

[Dribble]

i know a 100-year-old lady close to home who'd take great exception at that.
she has always voted and it's only since Jan 6th and its fallout that she is now thinking about NOT voting, since she was voting republican and thought trump was a catholic and quite the churchman. Women fought and some died for the right to vote...taking that away would be wrong, in my opinion. While i understand that there are people out there i'd far rather see not voting while mentally ill, abusing a substance, or religious zealots, i don't see how it would be practical or possible in most cases and to put an upper limit? yeah, i do think it would be wrong.

education&experience are the largest factors in determining one's ability to see through scams... and that comes from both ends of the age spectrum as well as running throughout

what the holy fuck??!!!

a) they most certainly DO contribute to the country: economically, experience, influence... even the top echelons of politics show exactly how much you are wrong on this. Not ALL elderly people are so out of touch they don't know what fucking day of the week it is; the wiser ones surround themselves with people of all ages and manner of experience just so they CAN stay connected.

The Silver $: Old people frequently spend and spend and spend in ways others don't, simply because they may have no mortgage left to pay, no kids left at home to raise, and an income provided by their own previous labour or that of a spouse, investments made when younger and so on and so forth. Others might sell their houses and move in with their adult children, free, leaving them a lovely disposable nest egg they enjoy spending on pampered pets, clothes, plants for their gardens, paying others to do the sort of jobs they are no longer able to take care of themselves such as decorating or gardening upkeep, electricians and plumbers and builders. Those with the money often invest, often have new work done to their homes, build extensions, new roofs, what have you, paying through the nose on jobs they might have tackled themselves when younger or couldn't spare the money to get done since there was more demand on their incomes. Of course not all old people are in a position to do so, but there are enough to impact the economies of their areas. And what about the jobs involved in care and medicine for the elderly?

for you to so callously write off all elderly people as worthless, to rob them of their voices, is, quite frankly, disgusting!

Maybe you should take a break from here?

 

[butters]

Maybe you should take a break from here?

because of you posting something that disgusts me personally? don't be silly.

 

[RandyRebecca]

If anything, we should be lowering the voting age to 16.

 

[Chernosoth]

If anything, we should be lowering the voting age to 16.

I had the same number in mind. The post-industrial world will have teens taking more adult responsibilities.

 

[butters]

i guess dribble thinks any actor over the age of 70 'contributes nothing to the country', along with any scientist (whose jobs depend on them keeping up with scientific changes), doctors, teachers, artisan craftsmen, skilled engineers yada yada yada

 

[Dribble]

because of you posting something that disgusts me personally? don't be silly.

Because you are too fucking stupid to realize what I did and why

 

[Dribble]

Just a bold recognition of the lack of maturity, lack of economic and civic knowledge of those below the age of 25 these days.

For Butters...so she can keep sitting at the adult table

 

[Dribble]

https://wisevoter.com/state-ranking...o states have a minimum,which is 14 years old.

Old enough to marry...and have kids...but not smart enough to vote.

 

[butters]

Because you are too fucking stupid to realize what I did and why

if your intent was to act as a foil to show Bright Shiny Girl's viewpoint as wrong (other side of the coin) then perhaps ask yourself why someone as rational as i am would think for even a moment to take your words at face-value. THAT speaks to your postings, not my stupidity.

 

[Lazaran]

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Vivek Ramaswamy is basically the ShamWow guy trying to sell a lame political product.

And the ShamWow was a better product.



Vivek Ramaswamy

 

[Lazaran]

Maybe you should take a break from here?

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Maybe you should lay off the methamphetamine.

And if you’re not on methamphetamine, then you should probably be on methylphenidate under the close supervision of a psychiatrist.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

i know a 100-year-old lady close to home who'd take great exception at that.
she has always voted and it's only since Jan 6th and its fallout that she is now thinking about NOT voting, since she was voting republican and thought trump was a catholic and quite the churchman. Women fought and some died for the right to vote...taking that away would be wrong, in my opinion. While i understand that there are people out there i'd far rather see not voting while mentally ill, abusing a substance, or religious zealots, i don't see how it would be practical or possible in most cases and to put an upper limit? yeah, i do think it would be wrong.

education&experience are the largest factors in determining one's ability to see through scams... and that comes from both ends of the age spectrum as well as running throughout

what the holy fuck??!!!

a) they most certainly DO contribute to the country: economically, experience, influence... even the top echelons of politics show exactly how much you are wrong on this. Not ALL elderly people are so out of touch they don't know what fucking day of the week it is; the wiser ones surround themselves with people of all ages and manner of experience just so they CAN stay connected.

The Silver $: Old people frequently spend and spend and spend in ways others don't, simply because they may have no mortgage left to pay, no kids left at home to raise, and an income provided by their own previous labour or that of a spouse, investments made when younger and so on and so forth. Others might sell their houses and move in with their adult children, free, leaving them a lovely disposable nest egg they enjoy spending on pampered pets, clothes, plants for their gardens, paying others to do the sort of jobs they are no longer able to take care of themselves such as decorating or gardening upkeep, electricians and plumbers and builders. Those with the money often invest, often have new work done to their homes, build extensions, new roofs, what have you, paying through the nose on jobs they might have tackled themselves when younger or couldn't spare the money to get done since there was more demand on their incomes. Of course not all old people are in a position to do so, but there are enough to impact the economies of their areas. And what about the jobs involved in care and medicine for the elderly?

for you to so callously write off all elderly people as worthless, to rob them of their voices, is, quite frankly, disgusting!

I agree that all adults should have the franchise. I was merely pointing out that once you start arguing that young people should be removed from the voter rolls, similar arguments can be used to remove old people.

Ramaswamy's immodest proposal is a transparent attempt to prevent liberals from casting votes--much like strict voter ID requirements, and limiting the number of polling places in black neighborhoods.

 

[jaF0]

You wouldn't Rammit would wan't to block out all the KyKy Gunnenberries though would you?

 

[zipman]

Just a bold recognition of the lack of maturity, lack of economic and civic knowledge of those below the age of 25 these days.

If that was the criteria, most Republicans wouldn't be able to vote.