Virgin Prostitute?

[Carnevil9]

Idea inspired by this thread, but I didn't want to hijack it. How about a prostitute who has never allowed any dicks into her pussy? She is so skilled at all other types of pleasure (blowjobs, handjobs, titjobs, footjobs, etc.) that she makes a great living, and in fact becomes famous as The Virgin Prostitute. She commands top dollar both for her uniqueness, and for her talents.

Then, she decides she wants to retire. She needs a huge influx of cash to settle down somewhere and never have to work again. She decides to auction off the rights to be the first one to fuck her pussy.

I'm not sure where it would go from there. Lots of possibilities. What do youse guys think?

 

[lovecraft68]

If I'm not mistaken there was a story several years ago about a college girl auctioning off her virginity on e-bay. Talk about the 'buy it now' option.

I always laughed at the thought of winning her, going through with it then leaving negative feedback and selecting "Item not as described"

 

[hylas_]

I actually happen to have a "auctioning off their virginity" scenario coming up in a story I'm currently plotting. What do you guys think would be a kinda-sorta realistic amount of money one could make that way? I don't really care about the exact number, but I don't want readers to be taken out of the story because the figure seems much to high or low. What amount would "feel right" to you? The character in question is conventionally attractive and in their early-to-mid 20es.

 

[Zionisacat]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1226112

Ignore Loquere's comments and you've got a slightly more fleshed out framework for your 'virgin prostitute'.

 

[Nezhul]

If she's having sex with people but not with her pussy, how can she be a virgin?

Or do you believe that intact hymen somehow makes a difference? Well there are virgins with ripped hymen too - because some girls can break it by riding a bike in their teens or dancing, and never even notice.

I just don't understand. Do you really view a prostitute like that as a virgin? Really?

 

[Zionisacat]

If she's having sex with people but not with her pussy, how can she be a virgin?

Or do you believe that intact hymen somehow makes a difference? Well there are virgins with ripped hymen too - because some girls can break it by riding a bike in their teens or dancing, and never even notice.

I just don't understand. Do you really view a prostitute like that as a virgin? Really?

and your point is? If someone loses their hymen to the bicycle seat it doesn't make their first time special? Or are you just being an asshat and trying to make an argument out of nothing?

 

[Nezhul]

and your point is? If someone loses their hymen to the bicycle seat it doesn't make their first time special? Or are you just being an asshat and trying to make an argument out of nothing?

no my point is that if she's a prostitute - she's not really a virgin.

My point is exactly the opposite of what you said. No matter if you have your hymen or not - it's your first time doing sex which makes you not virgin. If she's a prostitute who is experienced in making men cum, I can't really say she's a virgin anymore, because she has plenty of sexual experience. Granted, she may not be using one of her holes for that, but she still have lost her virginity long ago.
Virginity is a state of mind and soul. Not something arbitrary like not having your pussy penetrated.

I may be trying to be a little bit of an asshat, if you want to call it that, but what I'm really doing is digging the weak spots of this idea. Nothing ruins a story (erotic or not) as fast as the broken suspense of disbelief. And in this particular case - I guarantee you, unless you find a very good justification, most people will read the first few pages and close it, because they just would't be able to believe in this character.

 

[Zionisacat]

So your imaginary line where virginity is lost is lower than most. I would suggest that most people would consider P in V, or P in A as the threshold. If you've had neither and wish to advertise yourself as a virgin, my sense of belief wouldn't be broken.

 

[Nezhul]

Chill out man. You may keep your views, I'll keep mine.
Whoever uses that idea is free to ignore my comments or free to listen to them. Don't get your panties in a twist over them.

 

[hylas_]

I think it's clear from the context that the OP is talking about vaginal virginity, even if he doesn't explicitely say it.

 

[Nezhul]

ok. Then my next question is - what's the point? THe OP says she becomes famous and popular because of that but I don't see it.

What's the point of inviting a prostitute who won't have vaginal sex with you, if there are other options available? Does it enhance the experience anyhow?
Because I see it more as a hindrance.

 

[hylas_]

I don't think it's realistic (especially since IRL everybody will just assume that she's lying about her virginity). But I get the appeal of the fantasy. Everybody with virgin/whore complexes get to have the virgin and the whore both!

Virginity is a funny concept. There's a lot of cultural bagage around it, and most of it is sex-negative bullshit. But I believe a lot of our kinks/fetishes/fantasies are our way of processing said sex-negative bullshit.

In reality, having sex with a virgin (of any kind) doesn't appeal to me. Sex is a skill, and the more experienced somebody is, the more skilled they are.

But in the world of erotic imagination, I do get a kick out of "virgin" scenarios. Something about "breaking in" somebody, about "seducing" and "tarnishing" somebody "pure". As I said, fucked up notions, all of them; I don't actually think somebody is "pure" or "impure" for having had sex or not. But the notions are floating around in our culture and in our subconsciousness; why not make kinky lemonade from sex-negative lemons, so to speak.

 

[Reshbod]

Interesting idea and I'm probably over thinking it but it sounds like the woman would be a high class prostitute. And since she makes a good living, she would have to charge a lot. Most men if they shelled out a large sum would not want any restrictions. The one way I could see it is that she specifically advertises that "she'll only do what the wife/girlfriend won't."

On seeing the title my first thought was to a story I have considered at various times where a young woman is attending college. She does odd jobs like babysit and does date but nothing serious. Some of the men she babysits for decide to see if they can score with her. A bidding war starts and they try to seduce her which she refuses. The men get more excited and eventually she is made an offer she can't refuse.

 

[Carnevil9]

If she's having sex with people but not with her pussy, how can she be a virgin?

Or do you believe that intact hymen somehow makes a difference? Well there are virgins with ripped hymen too - because some girls can break it by riding a bike in their teens or dancing, and never even notice.

I just don't understand. Do you really view a prostitute like that as a virgin? Really?

You are correct, of course, but you are suffering from a little fallacy that I like to call "logic."

Many people do NOT see it that way. There are women who will gladly give their boyfriends blowjobs but will deny them entry to their pussy because they want to maintain their "virgin" status. They are not fooling anybody but themselves, yet it is still a real attitude that some people have. That is the basis of the story idea, preposterous though it is.

If you've ready any of my stories, you would know that most of them are based on even thinner concepts than this one!

 

[HandsInTheDark]

I actually happen to have a "auctioning off their virginity" scenario coming up in a story I'm currently plotting. What do you guys think would be a kinda-sorta realistic amount of money one could make that way? I don't really care about the exact number, but I don't want readers to be taken out of the story because the figure seems much to high or low. What amount would "feel right" to you? The character in question is conventionally attractive and in their early-to-mid 20es.

This is easy to Google and there's a wikipedia page on the topic. A quick skim shows it rarely actually happens, but when it does people have paid ~10,000$.

A woman that does this is either raising money for a sick friend, her own education, or is just doing it to see how much money gets offered (my suspicion for the ones that get cancelled at the last minute).

If they are raising money to deal with a medical emergency, the story would be simply sad and not erotic. For school, still kind of sad, but maybe better.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

You are correct, of course, but you are suffering from a little fallacy that I like to call "logic."

Many people do NOT see it that way. There are women who will gladly give their boyfriends blowjobs but will deny them entry to their pussy because they want to maintain their "virgin" status. They are not fooling anybody but themselves, yet it is still a real attitude that some people have.

Logic is a useful "fallacy", and vaginal sex is different in terms of consequences, so society treats it differently.

Vaginal sex leads to pregnancy a whole lot more often than any other kind. Back when birth control was much less effective than modern latex, a woman offering vaginal sex was basically saying she was willing to become pregnant for the male. Huge implications, huge commitment.

Vaginal sex is still the best way to spread STDs. Again, increased risk, especially generations ago when STDs were more virulent and much less treatable.

Plenty of guys will claim that vaginas feel better than asses or hands or mouths, so again it's more prized. And face to face sex is still the most intimate, in a way that a hand job or taking someone from behind isn't.

Bottom line, for most of human history, and still today, the vagina is a very big deal and a woman who denies entry to it isn't being a fool. People who don't understand sexual mores and how much of them end up encoded in laws, genetic tendencies and culture over the centuries, are the people who are fooling themselves.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

This kinda reminds me of Aurora Jolie, a black porn star that didn't do vaginal scenes...only BJs & anal.

 

[MayorReynolds]

Even in 2017, where Western society has broken free of old ideologies, the vagina is still considered the line between virgin/not-virgin. I've heard many stories about women who only offered the ass or mouth to "preserve" their "virginity." There's also the modern trend of young people who are exclusively oral because it's "not sex." That's where that term 'technical virgin' comes from.

Now, from one's own perspective, virginity can be defined in the holder's mind. She can say "He only put the tip in for two seconds, so it doesn't count," "he just had his fingers in there," or, on a more somber note, "I was raped, so I don't consider that my first."

But on a societal level, the vagina is the final frontier. It's where the penis is SUPPOSED to go, after all, and was biologically designed to take in, squeeze and milk the member for its coveted seed. It is also, as others have mentioned, where the male can tip his potent chalice, ushering the recipient garden into forever binding motherhood. That is unless he (or they) shoot(s) cum all over the outer pubic region and it leaks into the vaginal opening, finding the prize despite not being a direct deposit. But that's a different story.

A virgin PROSTITUTE is a bit different. She hasn't given up the vag so society COULD still call her 'virgin.' However, there's also that word 'prostitute' in her moniker, which carries many connotations. Suffice to say, she has learned her way around a cock. She has worn cum on various bodily regions and taken it in at least one of two allowed orifices—for money. Don't forget there are people who say accepting cash for services rendered is what separates a whore from a slut. Dudes will argue "That ain't no damn virgin," or "How the hell do you know she's not lying?"

But here's an idea. You can work the virgin prostitute angle by playing with contemporary/archaic ideas about defining virginity. Is it the hymen? Experience? Actual penetration? In other words, turn it into satire. Have discussions with friends of hers who are oral/anal exclusive or have gone "all the way." Include a scene where a client of hers gets confused. Put in a sequence where talking heads haw over whether she's a virgin while reporting on the story. You can write an erotic comedy around this central theme.

 

[joelafayette]

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[Saucyminx]

If I'm not mistaken there was a story several years ago about a college girl auctioning off her virginity on e-bay. Talk about the 'buy it now' option.

I always laughed at the thought of winning her, going through with it then leaving negative feedback and selecting "Item not as described"

Only you would consider the bad feed back angle--probably why I like you so much, because that would crack me up if I was reading this story, and I do appreciate a bit of levity with my sex.

 

[EquinoxRising]

Even in 2017, where Western society has broken free of old ideologies, the vagina is still considered the line between virgin/not-virgin. I've heard many stories about women who only offered the ass or mouth to "preserve" their "virginity." There's also the modern trend of young people who are exclusively oral because it's "not sex." That's where that term 'technical virgin' comes from.

Now, from one's own perspective, virginity can be defined in the holder's mind. She can say "He only put the tip in for two seconds, so it doesn't count," "he just had his fingers in there," or, on a more somber note, "I was raped, so I don't consider that my first."

But on a societal level, the vagina is the final frontier. It's where the penis is SUPPOSED to go, after all, and was biologically designed to take in, squeeze and milk the member for its coveted seed. It is also, as others have mentioned, where the male can tip his potent chalice, ushering the recipient garden into forever binding motherhood. That is unless he (or they) shoot(s) cum all over the outer pubic region and it leaks into the vaginal opening, finding the prize despite not being a direct deposit. But that's a different story.

A virgin PROSTITUTE is a bit different. She hasn't given up the vag so society COULD still call her 'virgin.' However, there's also that word 'prostitute' in her moniker, which carries many connotations. Suffice to say, she has learned her way around a cock. She has worn cum on various bodily regions and taken it in at least one of two allowed orifices—for money. Don't forget there are people who say accepting cash for services rendered is what separates a whore from a slut. Dudes will argue "That ain't no damn virgin," or "How the hell do you know she's not lying?"

But here's an idea. You can work the virgin prostitute angle by playing with contemporary/archaic ideas about defining virginity. Is it the hymen? Experience? Actual penetration? In other words, turn it into satire. Have discussions with friends of hers who are oral/anal exclusive or have gone "all the way." Include a scene where a client of hers gets confused. Put in a sequence where talking heads haw over whether she's a virgin while reporting on the story. You can write an erotic comedy around this central theme.

Very well said. This needs to be quoted in its entirety.

 

[kisandra]

Of course, some will claim it's sexist to focus on a woman's virginity, like it's some kind of prize.
But I do see the attraction; I think a lot of young woman may practise the "I didn't have 'sex' with that man" mantra, especially religious ones. And I can imagine guys quite liking it, the stress of performance anxiety removed.

If she's having sex with people but not with her pussy, how can she be a virgin?

Or do you believe that intact hymen somehow makes a difference? Well there are virgins with ripped hymen too - because some girls can break it by riding a bike in their teens or dancing, and never even notice.

I just don't understand. Do you really view a prostitute like that as a virgin? Really?

 

[MayorReynolds]

Great post. I was aroused just reading this. It sounds like you should write the story!
I also commented on the other thread the OP mentioned. I think this idea is a great one to write. I like the idea of a woman with a lot of experience and confidence finally engaging in vaginal intercourse. It's a good contrast to the usual theme of a clueless virgin. I also think the concept of virginity is dated and confusing, so hearing woman define it on their own terms is cool.
The prostitute idea is somewhat realistic too. Put it in a college setting. Vaginal sex adds the risk of pregnancy, so why not just blow guys if that pays the tuition by itself?

Thank you!

I've been searching for a unique idea for a while. I might give this a shot. If it's not imposing on anyone else, that is.

 

[Carnevil9]

.......The prostitute idea is somewhat realistic too. Put it in a college setting. Vaginal sex adds the risk of pregnancy, so why not just blow guys if that pays the tuition by itself?

Actually, that was pretty much the premise of my "Hand Job Slut" series - a college girl who pays her tuition through handjobs. Only she wasn't a virgin; she just didn't like sex.