Vice President Cheney's Lesbian Daughter

[kbate]

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[naughtyinsilk]

Well good luck to both of them and to the baby.

Its sad that at a time when the rest of the western world seems committed to equality regardless of sexuality, that parts of America seem to be going backwards into institutionaliized homophobia.

Hopefully in the not too distant future there will be politicians in America who will have the balls (pardon the expression) to tackle this head on and resolve this for all time.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Well good luck to both of them and to the baby.

Its sad that at a time when the rest of the western world seems committed to equality regardless of sexuality, that parts of America seem to be going backwards into institutionaliized homophobia.

The government in Denmark is also becoming very homophobic, because it is a Bush buttocks kissing government we have. Even though Denmark were the first to "marry" gay people, then we have done nothing since.

And I admit, that registred partnership isn´t really the same as marriage, because of different things, but they do have some of the same rights, but DEFINATELY not all, I think I have said before, many times, that Denmark doesn´t do shit about many things. Well, you can always check my posts about it

But the Faroe Islands are much much more worse,when it comes to homophobia, since there are no gaybashing protecting laws at all. Meaning a hatecrime is the same as "normal" violence. And well it is the "mecca" for the theocracy, and the worst part is, they dependant of money from Denmark.

I am just VERY tired of homophobia in any way. It makes so depressed, angry, and annoyed at the same time. Because of some peoples narrow minded one track mile thoughts they have. And because it is sometimes like speaking to deaf ears, to everything that happens. So I wish the best of luck for the lesbian couple.

 

[Etoile]

I didn't even know she lived in Virginia. I wonder whereabouts.

 

[Raimondin]

Well, can't get anymore high profile. Now, let's have recognition of same sex unions, marriages,or however you want to call 'em, nationwide, Grandfather Cheney!

 

[deliciously_naughty]

I'm glad that they're willing to be so high profile. It's nice to have that thrown in the VP's face.

 

[naughtyinsilk]

I just hope that the media respect their privacy and give them some peace.. Yes it is good they are high profile and bringing this issue up, but at the end of the day the importance of all this is minor compared to the importance of the health of the mother & baby.

Good luck to them both and to the baby, lets hope her father learns from this experience and has the balls to take the issue up himself, and fight for change.

 

[kbate]

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[Harrowborg]

And there was me hoping for some juicey story about how a high powered lesbian had turned straight and got a bun in the oven but oh no

 

[gregor_16]

"it is a Bush buttocks kissing government "

I just lost my lunch!

 

[Wolfman1982]

"it is a Bush buttocks kissing government "

I just lost my lunch!

Sometimes you have to, use other phrases, than just the usual versions of the behind of all things. And well I am sorry, you lost your lunch, to me using the words, is a fun thing to do. And sometimes when you aren´t using the most crazy profanities. Then it has a better effect

 

[fingermagic]

I still can not understand that even after all the homophobic, anti-anybodywithotherthanconservativeideas, anti GLBT, attitude of the company her father works for, she can still be a huge supporter of the GOP. A real company person. AT least Laura Bush was nice enough to change her dress.

 

[Fallenfromgrace]

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1967203,00.html

my god...talk about lesbian feminist...can you slate pseudo heterosexuality any more than she just did in that article?

I personally think that if homosexual males and females feel it is time for them to cement their relationship with civil union or marraige then thats up to them- its their lives and their relationships or ours perhaps i should be saying.

I wouldnt want Bindel telling me shortly after ive married the love of my life, that i was reverting back to 'patriarchy' with a percieved sense of male scrutiny/ control.

~~~ that's as an aside, i hope that Dick Chenney embraces the decision his daughter and her partner have made, and policy changes to union and parental rights are set in moton. However, i think that should be made out of an effort to comply the greater population, and to bring all rights in line, not just because his grandchild is going to be born into an administration which he has had a huge hand in keeiping/perhaps pushing further right wing.

i wonder if that all made any sense.

 

[kbate]

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[blueblood]

They better get out of Virigina

Viriginia is one of the most gay hostile states around. A Republican backed state constitutional amendment to prevent recognition of any rights resembling marriage being banned based with over 70 percent of the vote. Cheney's partner under Va. law has no rights and cannot legally adopt the child. I think frankly the woman is a lesbian Quisling. She did not speak out against the bill and she lives here. I don't know why her privacy should be respected when her dad and his boss clearly made a private matter of sexual orientation a matter of public policy. On the otherhand I wish them all the best with their baby.

 

[Wolfman1982]

blueblood: I wouldn´t call Cheneys daughter a lesbian traitor (the Quisling surname you used is because Vidkun Quisling was a collaborator with the Germans under WW2 , and well then I think you have just pointed out what nationality you are, by using Quisling as the word for traitor).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling

And no I wouldn´t call her a lesbian traitor.

blueblood = royal heritage. But I have no idea, of if you are of royal heritage or not. But some nicknames are easy to dechipher .

 

[Etoile]

Viriginia is one of the most gay hostile states around. A Republican backed state constitutional amendment to prevent recognition of any rights resembling marriage being banned based with over 70 percent of the vote. Cheney's partner under Va. law has no rights and cannot legally adopt the child. I think frankly the woman is a lesbian Quisling. She did not speak out against the bill and she lives here. I don't know why her privacy should be respected when her dad and his boss clearly made a private matter of sexual orientation a matter of public policy. On the otherhand I wish them all the best with their baby.

I'm confused, do you live in Virginia? I do, in Fairfax County near DC, I'm just wondering if you do.

I don't understand why you would suggest that her privacy shouldn't be respected. It's a basic human right, and has nothing to do with the role of one's family members in politics. I would understand if the press was nosy with her the way they were with Britney Spears's baby, but that's a celebrity thing. (I also don't anticipate the press will care very much; Mary Cheney is not exactly a major figure nationwide.) To suggest that she doesn't deserve privacy because of her father's political involvement...I just can't explain how bizarre that sounds to me.

 

[Etoile]

blueblood: I wouldn´t call Cheneys daughter a lesbian traitor (the Quisling surname you used is because Vidkun Quisling was a collaborator with the Germans under WW2 , and well then I think you have just pointed out what nationality you are, by using Quisling as the word for traitor).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling

And no I wouldn´t call her a lesbian traitor.

blueblood = royal heritage. But I have no idea, of if you are of royal heritage or not. But some nicknames are easy to dechipher .

Thanks for that explanation, I was about to go look it up myself. I've never heard the word before.

The suggestion that Mary Cheney is a lesbian "traitor" is laughable and harks back to the 1970's when lesbian separatists said that penetration was a symbol of the patriarchy, etc. Just because the woman wants to have a baby, she's a traitor to lesbians? I don't think so.

 

[blueblood]

I'm confused, do you live in Virginia? I do, in Fairfax County near DC, I'm just wondering if you do.

I don't understand why you would suggest that her privacy shouldn't be respected. It's a basic human right, and has nothing to do with the role of one's family members in politics.

No its not her family's role in politics, it's her role in politics that bugs me. She said nothing about the anti-gay marriage ban in Virigina. I assume she supports it with her continued work for the party. She has her minor position probably due to her Dad's influence. I agree that she is very small fry, not telegenic, photogenic or had a hit album recently and isn't a member of the British Royal Family so no one cares about her. Although she could still have her child taken away from her due to her domestic arrangements in Virginia. My guess as to the father is that it is the outgoing, I guess gone now, Senator Allen. There wasn't anything he wouldn't do for Bush or Cheyney

 

[Etoile]

No its not her family's role in politics, it's her role in politics that bugs me. She said nothing about the anti-gay marriage ban in Virigina. I assume she supports it with her continued work for the party. She has her minor position probably due to her Dad's influence. I agree that she is very small fry, not telegenic, photogenic or had a hit album recently and isn't a member of the British Royal Family so no one cares about her. Although she could still have her child taken away from her due to her domestic arrangements in Virginia. My guess as to the father is that it is the outgoing, I guess gone now, Senator Allen. There wasn't anything he wouldn't do for Bush or Cheyney

Oh, I see. You're a troll. Okay.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Two Mommies is One Too Many by James Dobson. Just printed in Time.

This should piss everyone off as it did me.

 

[naughtyinsilk]

What an asshole.

Of course thats why they asked him for an article, pity they didnt give somebody from the GLBT section of society the opportunity to respond, but I suppose that would amount to balanced and intelligent journalism presented with integrity.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Etoile: the surname Quisling is only used by Norwegians, so when blueblood decided to use that word, instead of traitor. Then blueblood exposed herself, as a norwegian, so if blueblood gets it going on, and begins speaking Norwegian, then no worries, I understand Swedish, and bokmål (the "normal" Norwegian language) and the nybokmål (new Norwegian).

So it is good, I was aware of the word, when it came to that

 

[Fallenfromgrace]

What an asshole.

Of course thats why they asked him for an article, pity they didnt give somebody from the GLBT section of society the opportunity to respond, but I suppose that would amount to balanced and intelligent journalism presented with integrity.

psssht, and it is often to the effect that such balanced journalism is rare in our world. However, journalism is on a level intelligent because a point of view is still expressed in an 'intelligent' manner, with the intent of swaying the masses and setting them against the minority. Thus, journalism to an extent is ignorantly intelligent because it sets goals to change society and accomplishes them through underhand one sided journalism constructed only to self serve its agenda. And it is the masses who dont care for the other argument (ignorance in itself perhaps) that allow this transition of norms to continue.

moving on...yes...i agree what an asshole.

this part really irked me though...

*quote*

Rather, our conviction is that birth and adoption are the purview of married heterosexual couples. Traditional marriage is God's design for the family and is rooted in biblical truth. When that divine plan is implemented, children have the best opportunity to thrive.

*end*

It always has to come back to The Good Book. As an young asian woman, i

a) am not christian, so why the hell does it always have to be brought back to the bible?

b) my family are hindu but i consider myself athiest. so again...why religion at all?

I dont care if the queen told me that i as a lesbian woman- regardless of age, and race- 'shouldnt bear children' because i'd be an unfit mother. i'd tell her where to shove her crown because i can potentially make a very good mother whether to my own biological child or a future partner's.

*grumble over* (for now)

 

[Misty_Morning]

Oh, I see. You're a troll. Okay.

*giggle snort*

You go girl.....