VENEZUELA: Justice for indigenous people for the first time

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Way to go, Venezuela:

On October 12, most countries in Latin America will celebrate Dia de la Raza, or Colombus Day, which in 1492 marked the beginning of the Spanish empires destruction of millions of years of the continents indigenous history in just a few decades. Yet in Venezuela, the day is now commemorated as the Day of Indigenous Resistance, and to participate in public discussion about the impact of colonialism on indigenous communities and what can be done to redress this.

President Hugo Chavez, leader of Venezuelas Bolivarian revolution, is himself a proud descendent of mixed indigenous and African cultural heritage. There are 36 distinct indigenous cultures in Venezuela, all of whom have been participating in the Guaicaipuro Mission, launched by Chavez just under two years ago. Chief Guaicaipuro, leader of the Caracas and Teques people, fought off the first Spanish coloniser-settlers for a decade in the 1560s, and eventually preferred death to conceding his territories.

According to the national census, Venezuela has about 500,000 identified indigenous people, many living in 2300 distinct autonomous communities. While there have been many gains made over the past six years, perhaps the most significant occurred on August 9 this year, when on ancestral lands in Santa Rosa de Tacata, Anzoategui, Chavez issued formal land titles over traditional lands to representatives of the Karina peoples.

Noheli Pocaterra, indigenous activist and member of the Pesidential Commission Guaicaipuro, said at the ceremony: Simon Bolivar, the first liberator, gave back the lands, the best lands, to the original inhabitants. But President Chavez is the first president to ever do this to dispossessed Indigenous. According to Pocaterra, recognition of ancestral lands was a precondition for advancing the missions with indigenous communities. For the first time in Venezuela there is justice for our people. These lands have a great magic and spiritual feeling for our indigenous peoples, land is life for us.

Venezuelas Bolivarian constitution devotes its entire eighth chapter to indigenous rights, outlining land rights and the states obligation to promote indigenous cultural values and to consult with communities regarding activities such as mining and development. There is a guaranteed presence of three indigenous members in the National Assembly and one state governor. There are also indigenous deputies in state parliaments and in the ministries, such as the National Youth Institute. The Bolivarian state also recognises traditional medicine and complementary treatments, and protects collective property, knowledge and technologies.

When handing over the land titles, Chavez also announced a US$130 million assistance package, which according to Pocaterra, will go a long way towards increasing economic productivity (mostly food production), leading to self-sufficiency in Venezuela. The revolution has arrived for us. Now its not just words, its concrete actions. And now our first peoples rights are acknowledged not the rights of the coloniser. Indigenous people can truly participate.
 
Fuck me... He sounds like a politician with principles who still got elected. A rare bird indeed!
 
fifty5 said:
Fuck me... He sounds like a politician with principles who still got elected. A rare bird indeed!
Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Sorry, unrelated to this thread, but give me a break...
 
cloudy said:
Well, like I said, unrelated to this thread. But I'd be suspicious. Saying that Hugo Chavez a politician with principals is like saying George W. Bush is the 2nd coming of the Messiah.

Just an example, one amongst thousands:

On the 23rd of October 2004, an airline pilot was arrested in Venezuela on an accusation of drugs trafficking, after he alerted the authorities to the presence of the drugs. Since he was charged, the trial has been adjourned and delayed 20 times. It still hasn't started, and is currently adjourned hadoc. The reasons for adjournment have included: a lack of handcuffs, the prosecution failing to arrive at court – without explanation, notification of trial sent to the wrong prisons and even heavy rain. Independent investigations have concluded (if needed it be) that the airline pilot "has no connection whatsoever to any drug trafficking cartel". Response from the Venezuelan authorities? Zilch.

In the mean time, the airplane where the drugs were found (by that pilot, who alerted the Venezuelan authorities), a brand new, state-of-the-art Cessna Citation X CS-DCT, has been kept sequestered during this whole time, until it vanished in April. It is now known it has been running unspecified operations by the military by direct executive order from the Vice-Presidency.

One example amongst many. US$130 million for the indigenous people is fine and dandy, if they don't care to ask questions about where it came from...
 
Lauren Hynde said:
Well, like I said, unrelated to this thread. But I'd be suspicious. Saying that Hugo Chavez a politician with principals is like saying George W. Bush is the 2nd coming of the Messiah.

Just an example, one amongst thousands:

On the 23rd of October 2004, an airline pilot was arrested in Venezuela on an accusation of drugs trafficking, after he alerted the authorities to the presence of the drugs. Since he was charged, the trial has been adjourned and delayed 20 times. It still hasn't started, and is currently adjourned hadoc. The reasons for adjournment have included: a lack of handcuffs, the prosecution failing to arrive at court – without explanation, notification of trial sent to the wrong prisons and even heavy rain. Independent investigations have concluded (if needed it be) that the airline pilot "has no connection whatsoever to any drug trafficking cartel". Response from the Venezuelan authorities? Zilch.

In the mean time, the airplane where the drugs were found (by that pilot, who alerted the Venezuelan authorities), a brand new, state-of-the-art Cessna Citation X CS-DCT, has been kept sequestered during this whole time, until it vanished in April. It is now known it has been running unspecified operations by the military by direct executive order from the Vice-Presidency.

One example amongst many. US$130 million for the indigenous people is fine and dandy, if they don't care to ask questions about where it came from...

Well, I can't comment on his principles, but it sure as hell is nice to see original folks get back part of what's theirs, that's all.
 
Vampy, not to get all heavy or anything, but I heard a lot of character assassination played as truth with regard to Aristide too. There's always plenty of that when it comes to someone the USA doesn't like. This sounds just too much. No one is such an epitome of evil. You should check your sources, and shop around.

I know, someone you know went to Venezuela. I heard the stories from expatriate Haitians, too. Aristide sacrificing a cock on the floor of the Haitian parliament to his voodoo gods, all kinds or bizarre stuff. It is in that country that the rumors are placed, after all.

Just a word to the wise.
 
cantdog said:
Vampy, not to get all heavy or anything, but I heard a lot of character assassination played as truth with regard to Aristide too. There's always plenty of that when it comes to someone the USA doesn't like. This sounds just too much. No one is such an epitome of evil. You should check your sources, and shop around.
I'm not in the US. That example I used is verifiable, indisputable fact. ;)

PS: And what Vampy said is almost as indisputable. It's what has been happening for years, and it's well documented.
 
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cloudy said:
Well, I can't comment on his principles, but it sure as hell is nice to see original folks get back part of what's theirs, that's all.
Yes, I know. I was merely reacting to fifty5's "politician with principles" comment, not to the article you posted.
 
The Haitians lived there, in Haiti, too. But some of the outright shit I heard from them about Aristide was pretty extreme. You could be right. Venezuela has never crossed my path. I know Dominicans, Haitians, Costa Ricans, and a few Belizeans. I took Spanish from a Colombian. I certainly have no expertise. I simply become suspicious when it gets piled on. I'm glad to hear that someone is checking.

From a distance, especially hearing news stories through an American filter, much of what we hear is distorted or not even based on any underlying truth. The papers and so on here all seem to agree that the "insurgents" in Iraq are "foreign terrorists and former Ba’athist insurgents". This is propaganda of the worst kind. Most Iraqis refer to the Iraqi Resistance as “patriots.” Which of course most of them are-they are, especially in Fallujah, primarily composed of people who simply are resisting the occupation of their country by a foreign power. They are people who have had family members killed, detained, tortured and humiliated by the illegal occupiers of their shattered country.

Calling them “foreign terrorists” and “Ba’athist insurgents” is simply a lie. While there are small elements of these, they are distinctly different from the Iraqi Resistance, who are now supported by, very conservatively at least 80% of the population there.

When the basic facts on the ground in a place are filtered away into limbo, much of what one hears for details is also suspect. Like Aristide, this crazy ranting man you speak of is in Washington's sights. I guarantee there are a lot of false stories about him. They are 'documented' by a self-referencing media who take whatever briefing the government hands them and print it. It's 'wartime' and you don't need corroboration of your government's stories in 'wartime.' Stories from people who live there warrant more credence. But the stuff you hear in the streets in Haiti is often rumors planted with intent. I can only imagine it would be the same elsewhere, in similar cases.
 
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