Vatican researcher claims writing on Shroud of Turin is proof of artifact's authentic

[MNGuy]

Associated Press

ROME - A Vatican researcher claims she has found a nearly invisible text on the Shroud of Turin and says the discovery proves the authenticity of the artifact revered as Jesus' burial cloth.

The claim made in a new book by historian Barbara Frale drew immediate skepticism from some scientists, who maintain the shroud is a medieval forgery.

Frale, a researcher at the Vatican archives, says the faint writing emerged through computer analysis of photos of the shroud, which is not normally accessible for study.

Frale says the jumble of Greek, Latin and Aramaic includes the words "Jesus Nazarene" and mentions he was sentenced to death. She believes the text was written on a document by a clerk to identify the body and the ink then seeped into the cloth.

Well duh, I bet if she looked on the other side she'd find 'Made in Judea'.

 

[Songcatcher]

Google who invented ink and when.

 

[Killswitch]

Well duh, I bet if she looked on the other side she'd find 'Made in Judea'.

Or "Eat at Luigi's"

 

[KRCummings]

Because nobody making a forgery would think to put his name on it. That proves it!

 

[KRCummings]

Google who invented ink and when.

A long fuckin' time before Jesus. Idiot.

 

[Songcatcher]

A long fuckin' time before Jesus. Idiot.

When was the very first time, historically, the word "ink" was used?

 

[KRCummings]

When was the very first time, historically, the word "ink" was used?

Probably around the time English came into it's own. Idiot.

 

[Killswitch]

Probably around the time English came into it's own. Idiot.

Are you coming up for teh game?

 

[KRCummings]

Are you coming up for teh game?

Hardly.

 

[Songcatcher]

Probably around the time English came into it's own. Idiot.

Do you have a problem, me, digging Rangiku-san?

 

[KRCummings]

Do you have a problem, me, digging Rangiku-san?

I have a problem with someone being as incredibly stupid as you are.

 

[Killswitch]

Hardly.

Too bad....we could do lunch.

 

[KRCummings]

Too bad....we could do lunch.

I could be going to the house next door to you and we would not have lunch. I think maybe I should make that clear to you.

 

[Holy Devil]

Well duh, I bet if she looked on the other side she'd find 'Made in Judea'.

The Vatican claimed a lot of things. Nobody's impressed.

 

[mark197205]

I could be going to the house next door to you and we would not have lunch. I think maybe I should make that clear to you.

Me thinks Killy has a crush on you...

 

[MNGuy]

The Vatican claimed a lot of things. Nobody's impressed.

Aw, come on, it's pretty funny. Maybe they'll find ©The Holy Catholic Church.

 

[KRCummings]

Me thinks Killy has a crush on you...

He's never been able to let it go no matter how I treat him. I've tried shitty and it eggs him on, I've tried nice and it give him false hope, I've tried ignoring him but there's no fun in that because I like to tell him how stupid he is from time to time.

 

[KRCummings]

Aw, come on, it's pretty funny. Maybe they'll find ©The Holy Catholic Church.

It is kinda funny but also sad that some people cling to this one thing. It's dumb. So it's not real, big fuckin' deal. There have been thousands upon thousands of fake relics over the centuries. Why some insist on clinging to this one is beyond me. It neither proves nor disproves anything.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

Its old but not old enough. End of story.

 

[Killswitch]

ahahahahaha.

 

[Juliewife]

Shroud

It seems to me there are two sides to the shroud argument, those desperate to prove it a fake and those desperate to prove it the real burial cloth of Jesus. A more reasoned approach doesn't need to have the shroud to prove Jesus was who He claimed to be. On the other hand, a person who doesn't believe is not going to change their mind with or without the shroud.

This Catholic believes the shroud to be the actual burial cloth of Jesus. However, if you gave me conclusive proof that is was a 13th Century forgery, I would still believe Jesus is just who He said He was.

 

[KRCummings]

It seems to me there are two sides to the shroud argument, those desperate to prove it a fake and those desperate to prove it the real burial cloth of Jesus. A more reasoned approach doesn't need to have the shroud to prove Jesus was who He claimed to be. On the other hand, a person who doesn't believe is not going to change their mind with or without the shroud.

This Catholic believes the shroud to be the actual burial cloth of Jesus. However, if you gave me conclusive proof that is was a 13th Century forgery, I would still believe Jesus is just who He said He was.

I don't believe anyone claims that the shroud proves Jesus was God. Just that he existed in the first place which is generally accepted now anyway.

 

[John Doe]

It seems to me there are two sides to the shroud argument, those desperate to prove it a fake and those desperate to prove it the real burial cloth of Jesus. A more reasoned approach doesn't need to have the shroud to prove Jesus was who He claimed to be. On the other hand, a person who doesn't believe is not going to change their mind with or without the shroud.

This Catholic believes the shroud to be the actual burial cloth of Jesus. However, if you gave me conclusive proof that is was a 13th Century forgery, I would still believe Jesus is just who He said He was.

Where is this "desperate to prove it a fake" group you're talking about?

 

[Luk]

Where is this "desperate to prove it a fake" group you're talking about?

I'm sure Mike_Yates has the answer.

 

[KRCummings]

I'm sure Mike_Yates has the answer.

It's FEMA.