Vaginoplasty: Not for pussies.

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[lisa123414]

Be careful what you wish for

Okay, so this is not so funny - well it wasn't at the time, I guess it is now...

After the birth of my first son, I asked the obgyn, to "give me an extra stitch", when sewing me back up, "for my husband." I guess he did, because for the next two years, sex was not good for me; I will admit now, it was painful, but I did not connect the cause to the problem.

After the next delivery, I said nothing. Problem solved. My advice to all who consider surgery of the elective type - research, research, research, because there may be unintended consequences.

 

[S-Des]

Okay, so this is not so funny - well it wasn't at the time, I guess it is now...

After the birth of my first son, I asked the obgyn, to "give me an extra stitch", when sewing me back up, "for my husband." I guess he did, because for the next two years, sex was not good for me; I will admit now, it was painful, but I did not connect the cause to the problem.

After the next delivery, I said nothing. Problem solved. My advice to all who consider surgery of the elective type - research, research, research, because there may be unintended consequences.

Dr. Drew was talking about that on Loveline and said that the change in body chemistry can cause that with some women. He recommended some kind of estrogen injection that supposedly helps. It's ironic, since many men are under the paranoid fear that a woman isn't the same after giving birth.

 

[lisa123414]

Well, I think my hormones may have been goofy, who knows at that age and after the first kid. At the time I did not know what was wrong, and it may have been a combination of things. However, since each kid was a vaginal birth, and the only difference of which I know was NOT asking for that extra stitch... All I can say, is the pain was not an issue after number two (or three or four).

ETA: It is true, women are not the same after giving birth - thats goes without saying, I think. Men are not the same either, after becoming a father. It stands to reason, yes?

 

[S-Des]

ETA: It is true, women are not the same after giving birth - thats goes without saying, I think. Men are not the same either, after becoming a father. It stands to reason, yes?

hehe, I was referring to women physically. A lot of guys are afraid sex won't ever be the same. It's probably something that should be covered during sex ed, since the urban legends we tell each other have about as much basis in fact as the stork.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Interesting thread sarah, even the top 10 reasons. . .

As a female who has lost a lot of weight and now has a lot of excess skin... EVERYWHERE. . .I can see where this surgery would be beneficial for ones self-esteem if they found they needed it.

Research is definitely the key to any surgery, especially when it will effect you in a way that may deflect or enhance your sexuality and/or feelings.

 

[amicus]

And they hiss and sniff that men prefer younger women who have not borne children. Seems logical to me that both the vaginal opening and canal expand to accommodate the birth of a child.

Although it is by nature designed to be resilient, it perhaps does not return to the pre birth dimensions.

The same applies after multiple births, I would assume as the plasticity of the expanded flesh is challenged again and again.

On Hotel Street in Honolulu (shit street according to the sailors), the 'Red Light' district, it is also referred as "Pea Coat Sleeve Alley", a 'PeaCoat' is a heavy jacket issued sailors in which the sleeve has a diameter of about 6 inches.

Stimulation of the male glans arises from friction brought about by contact with the vaginal opening and the walls of the vaginal canal. If that canal is stretched repeatedly, through birth or intercourse and no longer offers that stimulation...

Thus, surgery decreasing the diameter to increase the friction, seems logical.

Thas why we like young girls and tight pussies.

I know, rocket science.


amicus...

 

[starrkers]

I am beginning to realise exactly why so many people think you're an ass, Amicus.

 

[amicus]

I am beginning to realise exactly why so many people think you're an ass, Amicus.

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I don't mind that at all, starrkers, as a matter of fact, it means you are beginning to see reality and how some are repulsed by it.

If you will parse the real intent of SweetSubSarah's post, you will note that she is demeaning the issue of women undergoing surgery to please men.

There is a second consideration, in that few women, (do your own google), experience an uterine orgasm and that sexual pleasures, if to be had at all, are clitoral based which most men are not aware of and simply want an internal ejaculation for satisfaction.

Enter Cunnilingus, performed by either gender, as providing more pleasure than actual penetration. Who needs a Penis, and if you do, it can be plastic.

Enter the Lesbians and the Gay Community, which is really what the post was all about anyway.

Geez, I buy you books and buy you books....




Amicus...

 

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[impressive]

Cosmetic/plastic surgery is SO not the "easy" thing it's portrayed to be. Last November, I had an abdominoplasty to remove excess skin & scar tissue that resulted from 3 very large babies born by 3 c-sections followed (almost 10 years later) by a 100# weight loss.

My recovery was excruciating -- took much longer and was far more painful than all 3 of the c-sections COMBINED. I'm not thrilled with the visual results, either. The biggest benefit, IMO, is that I now have sensation on surfaces that were previously deadened to scar.

 

[tickledkitty]

Having had a C-section, I have no experience with this. It's not my experience that most men prefer young girls though either. On the contrary, they seem to much prefer 40-somethings, with our flabby, stretched out vaginas and sagging boobs. Go figure.

It occurs to me, though, that although some may prefer young and tight, their chances of experiencing any pussy at all, young, old, or indifferent, are slim to none. Makes me wonder if they are, in fact, really so picky. Just sayin'.

 

[Dar~]

I am beginning to realise exactly why so many people think you're an ass, Amicus.

Starkkers, what amicus is really trying to say there is that his penis is too small in diameter to have sensation in all but the most rubbery of pocket pussies.

To the OP; I had a friend who had been raped at an extremely young age and the tearing and scarring did a number on her genital region. She stuck out beyond the labia and it caught friction from clothing and was altogether uncomfortable. HEr insurance wouldn't cover it, so she has been saving for the surgery to get it "prettied up," but in her case I understand.

As to Amicus; The female vagina does not ever gape tremendously after giving birth to a child. I tell you this as a woman who has had two and still can satisfy a man (but chooses not too EW!!) The hormones emitted into the female body during child birth enable the birth canal to have the elastisity it has in order to allow the child to pass through. It doesn't stay that way. Yes, childbearing does change things about a woman, for instance nipple color, but sexually, she is just as good and just as able to get your rocks off. ( not that any woman who has ever heard you pontificate on their general purpose and place would give you that with out a good dose of rophenyl or brainwashing.)

 

[Vermilion]

I thought the title said this thread wasn;t for pussies... so why is Amicus even in here?


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[Taharial]

I thought the title said this thread wasn;t for pussies... so why is Amicus even in here?


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[Guest]

this surgery truly scares me

Very few doctors truly understand what is going on down there.

And they still go around cutting it up! I am just wondering, since I know personally so many women whose life were made hell after intervention down there, how much the designer vagina is built for pleasure, if any damage if at all is done to structures in and around the G-spot, anterior fornix and whatever, and if the anesthesia used does not put any nerves at risk.

I'd urge any women considering this horrifying procedure to take a look at kegels, or pelvic floor therapy first. You'd gain a lot from the therapy in any case.

*shivers*

Maharat

 

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[Vermilion]

BWAH!

<throws hands in the air in mock supplication>

Cheap shot, I know

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[R. Richard]

Kegel exercises, baby. I am as tight as I ever was.
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Exellent advice and I agree Sweetsubsarahh. However, you are suggesting something that requires work and no cost, vice a surgical procedure requires no work, is expensive and provides a conversational tidbit for a woman's envious friends. There are tradoffs!

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Personally the only thing I would have changed about my pussy, is the extra skin that has gathered around the top of my vagina. The inner workings of it, diameter, clit location, size . . .etc. I wouldn't change. I'd like a "tighter" outer top skin adjustment, but honestly it isn't the biggest thing I'm looking to change. I want my boobs back where they belong since my weight loss. lol.

 

[lisa123414]

Exactly.

That's actually well-documented, that "extra stitch" as a source of serious discomfort for women after sex.

But did you have an episiotomy? Doctors do not routinely do those anymore, well, most doctors, anyway. Any damage after birth now should be relatively minor compared to the cutting women used to receive during childbirth.

My sympathies.

Although I am laughing my head off at the previous few posts, I will ahem "suck it up" and try to stay serious and keep to the thread subject. I argued with my doctor plenty about having an episiotomy, his opinion was a cut would be cleaner and easier to heal than a tear, hence the sewing up in the first place.

Next part is really not for pussies!!! Second child was a difficult delivery, after hours of labor, the doctor finally had to use forceps. The procedure tore me all the way through to my ass. Had to be sewn up again, with a longer time needed to heal, but no extra stitch this time. Since then have had no problems with pain during sex or vaginal wall sensation.

Anyway, we do live in an age of plastic surgery. I don't think we women do it for men, we do it for ourselves. All the girly trappings, makeup, perfume, heels, do wonders for our self esteem and confidence. We may do it because we like the attention we get from men, and women for that matter, but we do it for ourselves.

ETA: Took me so long to write this post, quite a few more posts were added. I just wanted to say I am not laughing at Maharat48, R. Richard, or RehHairedand Friendly, but the posts before that

 

[lil_elvis]

i don't know much about all the technical stuff. i just like a meaty pussy.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

OMG... I read this and in the back of my head I could hear, plain as day, Lady Byrd Johnson screaming - PUSSIFY YOURSELF!