Using NLP

[sr71plt]

IIf NLP had a place in written porn, it would modify the personal beliefs and real world sexual performances of the readers. I don't think I've ever read a sex story here or anywhere else that made me think differently, or change the way I engage in sexual activity.

Don't want to intrude too much in this discussion because I still have no idea what NLP is (or desire to find out), but I'll note that a good third of the e-mail feedback I get on my stories here includes the observations that my stories make them want to try something out they never had done before and/or consider preferences/activity they had never considered before. Now, I'm sure much of this is just talk. But it's talk about stories prompting the reader to modify personal beliefs in the real world. And what is posed to me in these e-mails is the volunteered assertion that it has done that for the reader.

(A disclaimer here. I don't write the stories because I'm campaigning to change/influence anyone--I write them because they turn me on and are a busman's holiday from the restrictions I write within in the mainstream.)

 

[LaRocha]

Don't want to intrude too much in this discussion because I still have no idea what NLP is (or desire to find out), but I'll note that a good third of the e-mail feedback I get on my stories here includes the observations that my stories make them want to try something out they never had done before and/or consider preferences/activity they had never considered before. Now, I'm sure much of this is just talk. But it's talk about stories prompting the reader to modify personal beliefs in the real world. And what is posed to me in these e-mails is the volunteered assertion that it has done that for the reader.

The readers are likely more successful at NLP with authors than the other way around. I've seen countless stories prefaced with "I've altered the story after talking with so and so. I didn't want to keep writing this series, but I've gotten so many responses to go this way."

There's no reason to believe anything the readers say to us in our emails. Anyone who's ever written an incest story has probably gotten a detailed monologue about how someone has the same relationship with their family member. The readers get off on telling lies to the authors, the authors tell lies to the readers when they narrate from first person.

 

[sr71plt]

There's no reason to believe anything the readers say to us in our emails. Anyone who's ever written an incest story has probably gotten a detailed monologue about how someone has the same relationship with their family member. The readers get off on telling lies to the authors, the authors tell lies to the readers when they narrate from first person.

I acknowledged that possibility. But what you gave was just a statement of your opinion. What I gave was a statistical analysis of the feedback I actually get. Since there's really no way to scientifically "prove" any of this, I'll take my volunteered feedback as a bit more relevant than your personal opinion statement.

You're pretty much engaging in a "nothing matters but what I assert" argument, which a pretty silly basis for a discussion, I think--so I'll leave you to it.

Just wanted to note that the evidence I see is diametrically opposed to the opinion you stated on that point.

 

[LaRocha]

I acknowledged that possibility. But what you gave was just a statement of your opinion. What I gave was a statistical analysis of the feedback I actually get. Since there's really no way to scientifically "prove" any of this, I'll take my volunteered feedback as a bit more relevant than your personal opinion statement.

You're pretty much engaging in a "nothing matters but what I assert" argument, which a pretty silly basis for a discussion, I think--so I'll leave you to it.

Just wanted to note that the evidence I see is diametrically opposed to the opinion you stated on that point.

A statistical analysis? You're a joker. What you gave me was an opinion on the data set of emails you've received. Which doesn't really correlate with "How has my writing modified actual behaviors and beliefs in my audience." So I gave you, and give you, an opinion on how lacking in rigor I think your analysis is.

There is no reason to believe anything our readers say to us in our emails. Their emails may be attempts at modifying your writing. And they are. Within the data set of emails I've received, most are in some way suggesting or attempting to manipulate me into writing differently. Your argument is based only on the emails you've received.

 

[sr71plt]

Your argument is based only on the emails you've received.

My observation was based on independent data sent to me in multiple volunteered emails; your argument is based purely on personal opinion assertion. *shrugs*

It's not arms and legs, so I don't care if that's how you want to frame your argument.

 

[LaRocha]

You're not expected to tell the truth when you email an author here. When they send you their emails they believe that you in some way are the "I" who's telling them the story about their sex life. The readers are creative too. They lead authors in different directions. Even just to pat an author on the back they might pose as an admiring female. Why do people send us emails if not to gain something? They either want you to continue writing, write differently, or die. NLP has nothing to do with this, NLP is about interpersonal communication. Stories and emails have nothing to do with NLP.