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i suggest doing it tonightyui said:
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What a lot of people don't like to tell you is that this is only practical for diesels. Did the research, got the goods, prepared to put the stuff on a friend's car... then got lazy. But if and when we get it done, i'll let you know how it goes.3113 said:
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I think there has to be more to it than corroded pipes and the fear of another major spill, because the likelihood of an oil company getting more than a slap on the wrist under this administration is about the same as being struck twice by lightning - while being eaten by bears.
Why, a Senator from Alaska has himself described the wilderness areas of his state as nothing but a vast wasteland. Why worry if it gets some grease on it?
Yesterday I paid more than $3 per gallon for gas, for the first time. I didn't like it, but neither do I consider it a fluke. I might even go so far as to call it a fair price for a non-renewable resource, if US oil companies hadn't recently posted the highest quarterly profits in US corporate history, which could lead a cynic to believe these companies are taking unfair advantage of the current political climate.
Gas at $3/gallon didn't stop the testosterone-challenged fellow at the next pump from filling the tank of a Hummer the size of Rhode Island. No doubt, he needs a car built like a Sherman tank to safely negotiate the many off-road challenges of Coral Gables, Florida with his family of twelve. Coral Gables may look flat as a pancake, but since it's traditionally been the number one US city, per capita, for sales of SUVs that drink gas as judiciously as college freshmen drink grain alcohol mixed with Hawaiian Punch, there must be a few winding, mountain roads with fallen boulders. I just haven't noticed them.
SUV sales are in a slump, sad to say, even here. Not everyone is waiting until it costs more to fill the gas tank than to make the monthly car payment, before adjusting their driving habits to reflect reality. What's hard to understand is why so many Americans have waited this long to get the picture: there's only so much fossil fuel to go around. We can't have any more, no matter how much we want it, or how rich we might be, once the current supply is gone.
It's about time we stopped parrotting Bush's alleged desire for independence from foreign oil, and started pursuing independence from oil. They'll fight us tooth and nail, of course; the current policy is meant to drain every penny of profit from the resource before people get smarter about buying it.
If it takes BP's big pipeline shut-down to get that Hummer recycled into something useful and induce us to take conservation seriously, I'll accept my share of the financial pain. His too, probably. If he's rich enough to use a spruced-up military troop carrier for personal transportation, he's rich enough for the tax breaks Bush has put in place to assure that the rich stay rich.
Why, a Senator from Alaska has himself described the wilderness areas of his state as nothing but a vast wasteland. Why worry if it gets some grease on it?
Yesterday I paid more than $3 per gallon for gas, for the first time. I didn't like it, but neither do I consider it a fluke. I might even go so far as to call it a fair price for a non-renewable resource, if US oil companies hadn't recently posted the highest quarterly profits in US corporate history, which could lead a cynic to believe these companies are taking unfair advantage of the current political climate.
Gas at $3/gallon didn't stop the testosterone-challenged fellow at the next pump from filling the tank of a Hummer the size of Rhode Island. No doubt, he needs a car built like a Sherman tank to safely negotiate the many off-road challenges of Coral Gables, Florida with his family of twelve. Coral Gables may look flat as a pancake, but since it's traditionally been the number one US city, per capita, for sales of SUVs that drink gas as judiciously as college freshmen drink grain alcohol mixed with Hawaiian Punch, there must be a few winding, mountain roads with fallen boulders. I just haven't noticed them.
SUV sales are in a slump, sad to say, even here. Not everyone is waiting until it costs more to fill the gas tank than to make the monthly car payment, before adjusting their driving habits to reflect reality. What's hard to understand is why so many Americans have waited this long to get the picture: there's only so much fossil fuel to go around. We can't have any more, no matter how much we want it, or how rich we might be, once the current supply is gone.
It's about time we stopped parrotting Bush's alleged desire for independence from foreign oil, and started pursuing independence from oil. They'll fight us tooth and nail, of course; the current policy is meant to drain every penny of profit from the resource before people get smarter about buying it.
If it takes BP's big pipeline shut-down to get that Hummer recycled into something useful and induce us to take conservation seriously, I'll accept my share of the financial pain. His too, probably. If he's rich enough to use a spruced-up military troop carrier for personal transportation, he's rich enough for the tax breaks Bush has put in place to assure that the rich stay rich.
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Maybe that's because we are buying more gas than ever before in history? If your profit MARGIN is around 10% before the price increase and it's still at around 10% after the price increase what's the problem?shereads said:
The drug companies have been posting even bigger profits for the last several years. Double of what he oil companies have and their profit MARGIN is higher than 10%.
What I don't like is corporate welfare (tax breaks for Corporations).
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This is fucked up. I don't envy you guys.
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If only we had thought ahead and built railroads! Wait, we did that, damn.
If only we hadn't let them fall into disrepair! Yeah that's the ticket!
If only we hadn't let them fall into disrepair! Yeah that's the ticket!
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It wasn't just disrepair but illegal collusion of Standard Oil, General Motors, and Firestone.Zeb_Carter said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
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Are you sure it wasn't the unions?Ted-E-Bare said:
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You know, it doesn't really much matter how or why it happened. The fact is, it did, and we're in trouble because of it.
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Oh, I don't know about trouble...over a 2000 mile course the average car owner will only pay an average of $50 more than a year ago.
But trouble is coming due to Detroits (the car manufactures) lack of vision.
Let me also add that the oil companies should have been diversifying into other(alternate) fuel sources long ago. Instead they thought the crud would flow forever and ignored things like Hydrogen (the most plentiful fuel source in the universe).
But trouble is coming due to Detroits (the car manufactures) lack of vision.
Let me also add that the oil companies should have been diversifying into other(alternate) fuel sources long ago. Instead they thought the crud would flow forever and ignored things like Hydrogen (the most plentiful fuel source in the universe).
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Which is why we're in so much trouble. The alternatives simply aren't out there and readily available when they're needed.Zeb_Carter said:
As for peopl ein situations like mine, where they're already skimping on things like food and clothing to pay for gas just to get back and forth to work, well... The future doesn't look too pretty.
