Up to 1,000 Texas farmers may lose their land thanks to fake wall

[someoneyouknow]

"What we're doing with eminent domain is, in many cases, we'll make a deal up front. We've already done that. The secretary has done a lot of that," the president told reporters in January, offering no specifics to support the claim. "And if we can't make a deal, we take the land and we pay them through a court process. Which goes actually fairly quickly. And we're generous. But we take the land. Otherwise you could never build anything. If you didn't use eminent domain, you wouldn't have one highway in this country. You have to use eminent domain."

Thus spoke the con artist when describing how the federal government will seize people's land for his proposed fake wall. Along comes Republican William Hurd, the only Republican representative whose district lies along the southern border.

"In the great state of Texas, we care about a little thing called private property, and there's going to be over 1,000 ranchers and farmers potentially impacted if the government comes in and takes their land," Hurd said on "Face the Nation" Sunday.​

"[Government officials] say, 'Hey, we need this land. Here's what we're going to give you.' And they get to automatically take it. And then the rancher or the landowner has to go in and fight in court," he added.

"Our government wasn't designed to operate by national emergency. Unfortunately, a Congress that existed before I was born usurped some of their power, gave some of their power away to the executive branch," he said, referring to the National Emergencies Act of 1976. "Our government was designed for the most ultimate power, the power of the purse, to reside within Congress. And we shouldn't have an executive — I don't care if it's Republican or Democrat — that tries to get around Congress with this national emergency declaration."​

What will be interesting is if these same farmers who no doubt voted for the con artist, will sit by and quietly let the big bad government take their livelihood, or if they will actually go to court and fight. Either way, it's obvious the con artist has never heard of:

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-hurd-on-face-the-nation-says-1000-texas-farmers-could-have-land-seized-to-build-trumps-border-wall/

 

[phrodeau]

It's an invasion. Guess who is doing the invading.

 

[Dumpington]

If you own land along an international border, the government has a right to police that land - and yes, that includes the construction of a border wall on your private property. Landowners all know this before buying property along an international border!

The idea that I can purchase a strip of land along the Mexico-U.S. border, and then freely invite people onto my property from another nation (e.g. Mexico) without the border patrol's knowledge is simply absurd. Every drug dealer in the western hemisphere would be gobbling up border lands if it were otherwise. People-smugglers & human traffickers would be taking full advantage of such a golden opportunity to bring in guns, drugs, and children to sell into sexual slavery.

To say that farmers would lose all of their land to a border wall is preposterous. The truth is, the modern Democratic Party ONLY opposes Trump's border barrier for the very SAME reason that Democrats oppose voter photo-ID laws: which is because today's Dems WANT illegals entering the U.S. and voting in our elections for Democrat candidates, who will then reward them with taxpayer-funded freebies!

In the state of California, the Democrats in charge are even offering illegals valid drivers' licenses! They're not even trying to hide it!

 

[someoneyouknow]

If you own land along an international border, the government has a right to police that land - and yes, that includes the construction of a border wall on your private property. Landowners all know this before buying property along an international border!

The idea that I can purchase a strip of land along the Mexico-U.S. border, and then freely invite people onto my property from another nation (e.g. Mexico) without the border patrol's knowledge is simply absurd. Every drug dealer in the western hemisphere would be gobbling up border lands if it were otherwise. People-smugglers & human traffickers would be taking full advantage of such a golden opportunity to bring in guns, drugs, and children to sell into sexual slavery.

To say that farmers would lose all of their land to a border wall is preposterous. The truth is, the modern Democratic Party ONLY opposes Trump's border barrier for the very SAME reason that Democrats oppose voter photo-ID laws: which is because today's Dems WANT illegals entering the U.S. and voting in our elections for Democrat candidates, who will then reward them with taxpayer-funded freebies!

In the state of California, the Democrats in charge are even offering illegals valid drivers' licenses! They're not even trying to hide it!

This was a Republican saying the farmers are going to lose their land. Take it up with him.

Also, Republicans want illegals to come into this country because they use them for low wage labor. Look at the con artist and how many he hired at his failing golf courses. He's even bragged about using illegals to keep his lawn looking nice at his rathole golf course in Florida. Look at how many illegals are hired at meat processing plants in Iowa and Nebraska. Look at how many illegals are used picking crops in the South. Funny how all those red states have no problem using the very people they claim to not want in this country.

 

[Dumpington]

someoneyouknow writes: "Also, Republicans want illegals to come into this country because they use them for low wage labor."

Are you saying that you agree with ME, or are you saying that you're a Republican who wants illegals coming here for low-wage labor?

Either way, it's WRONG to allow people to ILLEGALLY enter the United States. Yes, people from all over the world want to live in Trump's America, but that DOESN'T mean they should violate our nation's immigration laws in doing so!

"Look at how many illegals are hired at meat processing plants in Iowa and Nebraska. Look at how many illegals are used picking crops in the South."

Once again, you appear to be agreeing with ME, unless you're instead complaining that you're a wealthy Republican owner of a meat-processing plant or southern farm who only wants cheap labor. But MOST Republicans disagree with you, and fully SUPPORT President Trump's decision to build the border barrier NOW!

The Democrats will no doubt try and challenge the president's executive action in the courts, but Trump will prevail in the end, just as he always does.

 

[KeithD]

If you own land along an international border, the government has a right to police that land - and yes, that includes the construction of a border wall on your private property. Landowners all know this before buying property along an international border!

A lot of families have had their land there before there was an international boundary anywhere around. But most of those folks are Republicans--and Trump voters--and Republicans have been so rah rah private ownership for so long that I can enjoy sitting back and watching the hypocrites do the chicken dance (like you're doing) and happily say, "Well, you voted for the fucker."

 

[Pocketshaver]

EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF LAND that exists on the border with Mexico isn't good for a single fucking thing other then growing weeds and snakes.

If the land was so good they would be using it. Instead they don't.

SO many articles over the last 20 years explain that MOST ranchers don't want to go within a mile of the border on their OWN LAND. unless they have body armor and several AR-15s with a couple dozen 30-60 round magazines preloaded with them.

Its not even safe for the BORDER PATROL to be on the "highly important for farming farmland" that would be used for the fence.

its like a 5 year old saying she cant be spanked for eat the cookie at 5pm because she already ate it at 4:37pm that day.

 

[phrodeau]

EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF LAND that exists on the border with Mexico isn't good for a single fucking thing other then growing weeds and snakes.

If the land was so good they would be using it. Instead they don't.

SO many articles over the last 20 years explain that MOST ranchers don't want to go within a mile of the border on their OWN LAND. unless they have body armor and several AR-15s with a couple dozen 30-60 round magazines preloaded with them.

Its not even safe for the BORDER PATROL to be on the "highly important for farming farmland" that would be used for the fence.

its like a 5 year old saying she cant be spanked for eat the cookie at 5pm because she already ate it at 4:37pm that day.

And yet those ranchers haven't built any walls on their own land. Hm.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

SO many articles over the last 20 years explain that MOST ranchers don't want to go within a mile of the border on their OWN LAND. unless they have body armor and several AR-15s with a couple dozen 30-60 round magazines preloaded with them.

Its not even safe for the BORDER PATROL to be on the "highly important for farming farmland" that would be used for the fence.

Well, send me to th' land o' goshen! Ah never did knowed that!

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If the land is that dern dangerous, Shavey...how're our reg'lar American people folks who build thangs supposed to make that gol' durn dang ding donged wall thar?

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[KeithD]

EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF LAND that exists on the border with Mexico isn't good for a single fucking thing other then growing weeds and snakes.

Well, no one has claimed all of the land in question is useable (which isn't really relevant to it being private property that real Republicans would support remaining within the rights of the private owner to do as they will with it), but your claim that NONE of it usable is obviously full of shit and marks you as full of shit and eminently ignorable as being full of shit.

 

[sharingfantasies]

EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF LAND that exists on the border with Mexico isn't good for a single fucking thing other then growing weeds and snakes.

What a totally stupid thing to write. There are people living in the United States that are south of the current border wall/fence/barrier.

Because of a decades-old treaty with Mexico prohibiting building in the Rio Grande floodplain, the government built its border fence more than a mile north of the snaky river, trapping tens of thousands of acres of Texas--land in Cameron and Hidalgo counties--on the wrong side of the fence.

Although she lives in Texas, her home is south of the 18-feet steel-and-concrete border wall erected by the American government. Taylor, who is 84, can see it from her front porch.

Others had their property split in half by the fence, after the government seized portions of their land. At least 200 people in Cameron County had some of their land seized for the fence.

Loop worries that the government will close the gaps in the fence. A complete wall wouldn't let him get to his house from the road, which is on the "American" side. The road also provides access to his farm, which grows sugar cane, grapefruit, corn, and other crops, for his eight employees.

The owner of a 165-acre golf course that lies entirely on the "Mexican" side of the fence worries that putting a gate across the road that leads to the golf course will end his business.

The landowners on the other side of the fence in Brownsville know their property isn't as valuable as it once was. "Would you want to buy a house behind the border wall?" Loop asked dryly.

The government didn't offer to buy the land it walled off from the rest of Texas, or to compensate people for the subsequent devaluation. It offered only to pay for the strips of land that were seized for the fence's path. Some of those people have not been paid yet from when the land was taken four years ago.

Burns and his wife, Wendi, manage an RV park in Mission, a patch of land known as Chimney Park. Chimney Park is particularly popular with "Winter Texans" — Northerners and Easterners who live in Texas part-time to escape from their cold hometowns. For $2,486, you can rent a plot on the banks of the Rio Grande for six months. Somewhere just inland of those banks, Burns figures, the wall would be built.

“If that wall is built … it would kill this park,” he says.

A father and uncle manage the neatly manicured 319-acre River Bend Resort & Golf Club. About 75 percent of the club's acreage, including about 200 homes, is south of the levee, which many believe would be where the wall would be built.

"Fifteen of our 18 holes would all be south" of the wall

Of few examples of more than weeds.

Not to mention the Indian lands, the BLM land, and the national parks that are all on the border.

 

[about_average]

If you own land along an international border, the government has a right to police that land - and yes, that includes the construction of a border wall on your private property. Landowners all know this before buying property along an international border!

Umm, many of the families have owned the land since the 1700's and 1800's. Guess where the US mexico border was then. Hint, there was none until 1845. So actually much of the land was in the families' possession before the US got there.

The idea that I can purchase a strip of land along the Mexico-U.S. border, and then freely invite people onto my property from another nation (e.g. Mexico) without the border patrol's knowledge is simply absurd.

Who's doing that?

To say that farmers would lose all of their land to a border wall is preposterous.

Who's made that claim?
They will, in fact, loose land and/or access to land, many of whom rely on that land for farm income.

 

[Adre]

How do GB’s faux libertarians feel about this?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Also, Republicans want illegals to come into this country because they use them for low wage labor.

They aren't the ones protesting against customs, border and immigration control.

How are you that delusional?

EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF LAND that exists on the border with Mexico isn't good for a single fucking thing other then growing weeds and snakes.

You must be a terrible grower.

How do GB’s faux libertarians feel about this?

You're going to have to be more specific.

Name names.