Underage Sex

[Mackdoggy_77]

I always make sure my bitches are AT LEAST 2 and a 1/2!! (18 in people years!)

 

[Ironman69]

and what do dogs have to do with this

about a third of American high schoolers graduate as virgins.

GO ME
i had a few opertunities but i never went through with them, dont know why, but i just didn't, so i am a vergin at 18, 19 in a month, i want it, but i dont want to deal with the consequences should something come up and i end up being a dad, no good when you are trying to get through college on a already limited budget

 

[Different Guy]

I know what you're saying about society messages and rules. But fair enough, rebel and get pregnant at 13 or something. But what good is that? No one can enjoy it, having to stop living your regular life and lead the role of a mother and also manage financially, it's just not possible. That's why I think society is right to assess the situation and then state what age someone could cope with a child.

As for abortions? I am for and against which doesn't solve anything but in reality, when guys ejaculate they are doing the same as an abortion. It depends how far you want to go... Sperm is a living thing, just like an embryo. It's just easier to get rid of unlike an actual formed baby with a mind, but they are all life...

But like in my original argument, society should be able to prevent the kids getting pregnant in the first place...

 

[Say]

In an earlier post I responded to alphacat stating that I enjoy sex just as much or more than peers who waited longer, but I'm wondering if the ones she knows that have problems became very promiscuous at that age? My experience under the age of 16 was a one time deal, I wonder if that is the difference? Even after the age of 16, I was not out screwing everyone in sight. I was one of those basically good kids Magnolia mentioned that screwed up by becoming sexually active again, and had a lapse of judgment resulting in a pregnancy. I learned from it, and did not have another child until in my 20's. I like Magnolia's suggestion of forced use of birth control (Norplant is the device she was referring to I think) after two such pregnancies. I do know some girls who have gotten pregnant repeatedly on purpose, which I believe is wrong.

The decision is a very personal one, whether you've been given all the information or not. My parents did an excellent job of trying to educate me about sex, were always very open and approachable and I felt that I could trust them to discuss anything with me. I still made the decision to do it for reasons all my own. I'm not sure anything anyone could have said or any laws against it would have changed that decision.

That's why I think society is right to assess the situation and then state what age someone could cope with a child.

I just really do not know how 'society' can decide that age. Everyone is different. I know people in their 20's and 30's having their first who can't cope as well as I did, as well as knowing a lot that cope better. The same thing applies to the teen parents I know. Some cope maturely and responsibly, and other's refuse to grow up at all.

As for abortions? I am for and against which doesn't solve anything but in reality, when guys ejaculate they are doing the same as an abortion. It depends how far you want to go... Sperm is a living thing, just like an embryo. It's just easier to get rid of unlike an actual formed baby with a mind, but they are all life...

I am pro-choice but personally against(for myself) abortion. Even with reading your reasoning above, as someone who has given birth, I cannot see any similarity between ejaculation and abortion.

I doubt that there will ever be a way for society to prevent it from occuring. All we can do, as parents or mentors, is communicate with our children openly and educate them to the best of our abilities and hope for the best. Making sure to be there to support them if the worst occurs. While it won't make everything perfect or prevent all struggles, unconditional love and support from parents makes a world of difference to the teen. I was lucky enough to have it from my parents and would give it to my daughter's as well.

 

[Magnolia]

thinking

I can only think about how hard it was for me at 23 to have a child..... and I was married.... husband had a good job.... how can a 13 yr old.. go thourgh all that ... they are still a child they should not have to go through this... and these People that young that get pg on purpose....... all i can say is poorr poorrrrrrr baby........ some times I think giving them all this dfederat and state support is only making it look good to them....
but those poorrr babies....... Mothers having babies only to get money for them???????? who will love them????? Magnolia

 

[Tallfella]

Underage sex is a question that comes up a lot at my school and what should happen to violators. It should be against the law for two young people to fuck and then notnished and receive benefits. The girl should be forced to have a legal abortion.

That's a bit sexist, it takes two too tango and the boy responsible for getting a girl pregnant shoud have to pay towards either an abortion or the maintenance of the child. But better still carry condoms and don't trust a girl unless you really know her the same should also be said to girls no condom no sex. As to the underage thing, it's no good assuming that kids don'y know what they are doing and just make parental control a bigger issue.

 

[Different Guy]

Just to answer "Say"'s post

I believe society has a way of life that works for people. You may not think that society life is the right life, or a good life, but it is a life that people know of and live in. Looking at this lifestyle, how it's hard to make a living, etc people can look at it and think, anyone below say, 16 will not be able to cope with a child.

And it's been proven in loads of cases, as mentioned here on Lit. The mother stuggles, it's a hell of a lot of pressure and they can't lead their regular life etc.

Maybe if society was different then a 16 yr old mother could cope, but in today's society they can't, and that's why the restriction is at that age.

As for ejaculation and abortion. I'm talking about when a guy masturbates and simply, y'know gets rid of the semen containing sperm. The sperm is life, it is a living organism. Just like with an abortion. No matter what age the baby is, it is still a form of life. They are both methods of destroying life however which way you look at it.

For the record, I don't see anything wrong with having sex below the legal age. I never did it but damn sure had the urge. There's nothing wrong with it so long as you don't get pregnant. But is it really worth the risk...? That's why I believe children below 16 should be afraid to have sex below the legal because they know of the consequences. Pregnancy, can be avoided but a punishment cannot...

 

[TheEarl]

I don't know whether the same applies in the USA, but in England, if two underage kids have sex, the boy can be arrested for rape. Even if the girl testifies that she agreed and doesn't want to press charges, the girl's parents can get the boy done for rape as the girl is not considered mature enough to give consent.

The Earl

 

[Different Guy]

Yeah I'm from England and that sounds familiar

 

[Gryphon]

Just for Legal Reference

For reference about the laws in different countries, check out
The Age of Consent Website

Gryphon

 

[Tallfella]

The real trouble with underage sex is the fact that most teenagers consider themselves above the law and teenage girls most of the time show a regretable lack of taste when it comes to choosing a partner which often results in a pregnancy. By this I mean they choose the BAD boy who is interesting but in actual factis often the idiot thrown out of school for underachievement. girls then for some ridiculous reason can't wait to throw themselves at him and think that getting pregnant will bring the aforementioned moron to heel. It never does why oh why wont they learn?

 

[Guest]

look I'm 18 and i thought you might like a more recent perspective on these issues.
first you should know i'm still a virgin (meaning i grauated and am going to collage as one )

did i ever think about underage sex hell yes, but i deccided for my self i wasn't going there.

around the time i turned 17 i had a boyfriend who started to get a little aventurous on me and wanted to have sex i don't think he really thought it threw though cause at the time he was 15 and i was 17 (no were not 2 yrs apart about 1 and a 1/4 yrs) so you can see how really iffy these laws can be i decided not to cause i wasn't ready , i am shit scared of prenancy and i have no desired to be accused of the equivelt of statoury rape just casue he wanted some. (i live in singapore but im aussie and hes american )

i also pro choice on the abortion frount especially if you were stupid enough to get ur self in to an akward situation. i think i would if i needed to but u never know till your in that situation

my male cousin on the other hand found himself in the opposite situation to me he's 17 and knocked up his 15 yr old gf who had been raped and had an abortion before and didn't want to have another one . i think its finnally sorted out but they are really messed up teenagers both into drugs in a major way and there famillys can't seem to help. (ps my cousins in new zealand age of concent 15)

sorry to drag on and on like this but these issues really hit home with me and i think forced education should be part of the solution no parental discretion or exemption of religous schools

and as a final note its not on if its not on cause even on the pill std' s are just as if not more scary than pregnacy

luv deb

 

[David112]

The main problem with underage sex is that it's kids doing it.
Biologically a person, depending on a massive number of things, is ready for sex at a very young age, around 11 or 12.

For me no-one has the right to tell a person, black and white, when they may have sex with someone they love.

The trouble is at that age kids are immature and deal with it in a childish way. They're looking for the wrong things out of life, and the're looking for the wrong things in sex and love.

For everyone it's an individual thing that cannot be measured by the number of days you've been alive. Some people will be ready at 15, some at 18 some take longer to mature.

Thing is its up to the individual to decide the day.

That's why I don't agree on a law that is so oppressive and exact.
The emphasis is far more on punishment, especially of males, than on protection or both parties.

 

[Tallfella]

The main problem with underage sex is that it's kids doing it.
Biologically a person, depending on a massive number of things, is ready for sex at a very young age, around 11 or 12.

For me no-one has the right to tell a person, black and white, when they may have sex with someone they love.

The trouble is at that age kids are immature and deal with it in a childish way. They're looking for the wrong things out of life, and the're looking for the wrong things in sex and love.

For everyone it's an individual thing that cannot be measured by the number of days you've been alive. Some people will be ready at 15, some at 18 some take longer to mature.

Thing is its up to the individual to decide the day.

That's why I don't agree on a law that is so oppressive and exact.
The emphasis is far more on punishment, especially of males, than on protection or both parties.

You are right about the imaturity thing but what do you do to stop the pregnancies? Acting like a republican President wont help. Hello sex ed dont help either. Prosecute em and scare the little buggers give em a prison sentence to be served immediately in an adult prison only a month or so but by god what a deterrent the older prisoners are gonna think its Christmas everytime a new inmate is put in with em.

 

[ApplesMcgee]

mind made up

I've already decided that when I have kids, I'm just going to give them all the details about sex. I'm even gonna take them to the hospital and show them photos...of everything. The good and the bad.

"This is what a naked woman looks like"

"This is what genital warts look like"

PowrDragn

 

[David112]

Hmmm

Would a harsh prison sentence be the solution to everything? No offence but that's alot like locking the door after the horse has bolted.

By the time a child is pregnant, it's too late. There are some problems, crimes even, to which punishment is not the key to the solution.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, nor am I qualified to say who's Ideas are right or wrong, but underage sex is a social problem.

Maybe the problem is as much to do with how the older generation behave as it is about the younger generation. Who should we punish in that case?

How can we solve any problem if we don't know it's cause?

 

[Tallfella]

Hmmm

Would a harsh prison sentence be the solution to everything? No offence but that's alot like locking the door after the horse has bolted.

By the time a child is pregnant, it's too late. There are some problems, crimes even, to which punishment is not the key to the solution.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, nor am I qualified to say who's Ideas are right or wrong, but underage sex is a social problem.

Maybe the problem is as much to do with how the older generation behave as it is about the younger generation. Who should we punish in that case?

How can we solve any problem if we don't know it's cause?

Very true but i don't know how to dissaude them. For me it's the pregnancy issue not the actual sex .

 

[lorddragonwolf]

in the us it depends on the state laws however anyone over 18 having sex with anyone under 18 can be charged with rape. they will even prosecute underage persons having sex with each other. and in my opion any man over 20 having sex with anyone under 18 should go to jail.

 

[Tallfella]

in the us it depends on the state laws however anyone over 18 having sex with anyone under 18 can be charged with rape. they will even prosecute underage persons having sex with each other. and in my opion any man over 20 having sex with anyone under 18 should go to jail.

Assuming of course that the girl who is say 16 is totally innocent and isn't dressing her selr up and trying to pass herself off as over 18 and then lying about her age. I think it should also be a case of both partners being prosecuted. Unless it cna be proved that the underage person is totally innocent. ie Hasn't had sex ed classes.

 

[Guest]

I'm with Tallfella on the idea that it's the pregnancy, not the actual sex that is the issue.

Personally I became sexually active rather young. In retrospect I can see that that wasn't perhaps the best choice I could have made for myself, but I don't feel horribly traumatized about it either. But one thing is for sure - I never, ever once wanted to get pregnant! or a disease! There is nothing I wanted less when I was a teenager than to find myself pregnant.

I got on the pill, insisted on condoms for my partners - any guy who refused to wear one I figured just didn't want me bad enough and I would not compromise.

So I may have been a bit trampy, but I knew I wanted to go to college, get out in the world, travel, etc and getting pregnant would fuck that up. and I think that is what was different about me than some of these other young girls - they don't have a plan or an expectation for anything better for themselves. By the time they are pre-teens I think it is sort of too late - they need to have goals for themselves from childhood. As for the boys, I think a lot of parents - for sure not all, accidents will happen - but a lot of parents neglect to teach their sons about responsibility, so they think life is like some big hip-hop video where 'respect' means getting laid a lot.

just my two cents, or for the brits, my 2p.

 

[Vash]

As for abortions? I am for and against which doesn't solve anything but in reality, when guys ejaculate they are doing the same as an abortion. It depends how far you want to go... Sperm is a living thing, just like an embryo. It's just easier to get rid of unlike an actual formed baby with a mind, but they are all life...

i seriously don't believe ejaculating has anything to do with abortion.... we're talking about a human being when dealing with abortion. as for FORCING abortion?! no one except the parents has ANY right to decide if a child should come into this world, that's a given. to me, a human life (and soul) is created when the sperm and egg merge. that's why i'm mostly pro-life (except when it comes to rape, then it's understandable, but still sad). i highly doubt you have millions of human souls swimming around in your semen.....

 

[lorddragonwolf]

Assuming of course that the girl who is say 16 is totally innocent and isn't dressing her selr up and trying to pass herself off as over 18 and then lying about her age. I think it should also be a case of both partners being prosecuted. Unless it cna be proved that the underage person is totally innocent. ie Hasn't had sex ed classes.

to save yourself some jail time and a rape charge ask for id or even a birth certicicate. yes ids can be forged but if you ask the right questions as to how old they are and when they where born you might get a suprise especially when they take to long to give a date of birth. ask them a few times through the course of the night make sure they are over 18 before you walk out and go have sex with them. nothing worse than them comong back to you later and black mailing you because they are under 18. a friends brother went to jail for this. the girl even had ids she showed him that she was 18.