Underage Characters and Child Abuse

[FortySixtyFour]

I want to do two different things with my story that come close enough to Literotica TOS violations that my mind keeps going, "Hey, that's dumb, don't try to do that," but then at the same time, "Hey, maybe I could just..."

The characters are of-age in the story now, I want to go through a sequence of flashbacks to show who they used to be/what made them what they are.

I have a girl who's been the protagonist's best friend all throughout high school, who's developed a semi-secret crush on him. I want to go back through flashbacks to the first day they met, which would've been freshman year of high school, and continue on through 'till their senior year where she tries to kiss him. I want to show how she first became interested with him, and how she started to develop feelings for him. Sorta show how they've grown and changed in those years to become who they are in the current story.

As if that wasn't enough, I then also through these flashbacks want to hint at (but not show) how the protagonist was abused by his parents to explain how he became somewhat of a doormat for his overbearing girlfriend later on in his life/in general had problems forming trust and developing intimacy in relationship. The unrequited-crush girl would develop some of her feelings for the protagonist when she found out and tried to help him with these issues.

I know that I can write all of that out in a non-sexual manner, and I know that I can make it interesting. But does that matter? Is it too close or right on top of a line that just shouldn't be crossed? I mean, I recognize and appreciate that the line is there for a good reason, and even my own first knee-jerk reaction in giving myself advice for this is to write it out if I have to, but not submit it/include it in the chapters posted online.

One of my snippets:

“What, ‘fraid your dad’ll beat the shit out of you if he finds out?” Emily wise-cracked, a split second before realizing she might’ve said something she shouldn’t have. She’d danced around the subject all year, and whenever the topics of his parents, his home-life, or his childhood came out, it always felt like he was shutting her out, like her friend had become a wall.

“I’m fine,” he said casually, adjusting the straps of his backpack.

Uh… she shot him a glance and held it for a moment. The hell kind of response is that?

“I was joking, you know?” She teased, facing forward again.

“Yep,” he acknowledged.

“It’s not actually funny, though,” she said, getting annoyed. “Does your dad ever really… you know, hit you?”

“It’s...” he began, before shaking his head evasively. “Ah, you wouldn’t understand.”

“What the fuck, dude?” Emily said, surprised at how quickly her temper was rising up. “The fuck’s there to understand? Does he hit you or not? Yes, or no.” When he didn’t answer her after a few long moments she stopped, planting her feet firmly on the sidewalk, and glared at him.

“C’mon, Emily,” Brian said in exasperation. “Let’s go.”

“Answer me,” she insisted, her eyes radiating seriousness.

“Talking about it won’t change anything,” he said, getting annoyed himself. “Can we just go? Walking with you always makes me late.”

“Well, sorry for not having your long legs, Mister Salty McStilt-Strider. So, he hits you,” Emily decided. “That’s child abuse. We can call the cops.”

“I didn’t say he hits me.”

“Does he?”

“Just… back off, alright?” He grumbled, turning and walking on without her.

“Why don’t you make me back off, huh, punk?” She called, chasing after him. “Whose side are you on, anyways?”

“There aren’t any sides here.”

“Yeah? Good. I’m coming over this weekend.”

“And what’s that supposed to accomplish?” Brian griped, shaking his head. “What, if my dad doesn’t throw a punch at me while you’re there, he’s in the clear? Just let it go. None of it matters once I turn eighteen anyways. It’s pointless.”

“I just… fuck, I don’t know, man. Just help me understand, alright? Tell me that you’re okay, and I’ll drop it. I don’t really want to go over there anyways, it sounds boring.”

“I’m fine, Emily.”

She searched his features carefully and then began to scowl. Fuck. You think I can’t tell when you’re lying? Fuck. What the fuck.

“...I’m coming over this weekend,” she insisted.

Should I risk toe-ing the line here? I'm half-sure that even written out in a non-sexual way, and even if I only hint/imply abuse without showing it, I'll still get the chapter taken down or reported regardless. I just keep wanting to write it out so that readers can understand who they are and why it becomes significant years later (when they're of legal age, in their early twenties) that characters come together.

I'm hoping you guys have run into this problem already and found a better solution for this kind of situation, or at the least you can tell me it's just a no-go no matter what so that I can stop trying to make excuses for myself.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Your snippet reads to me as straight violence against the teenager, so it's abuse in that sense; but doesn't read as sexual abuse. That's the thin line.

This line
“I didn’t say he hits me.”
could infer something else, i guess.

But you imply other passages might have under-age sexual content, so you know the rules. Don't.

Even so, it's a sad sad world when you start splitting hairs about the subtleties of child abuse, sexual or non-sexual? I suppose your current day story might have erotic moments but it's coming from a bleak premise, it wouldn't do it for me. But hey, I'm not your readers.

 

[FortySixtyFour]

Oh no, there's definitely no underage sexual content other than the girl slowly realizing her attraction to the protagonist, definitely didn't mean to imply that there was going to be anything raunchy in the flashbacks.

I also didn't see until you posted that Brian's line could imply his abuse wasn't physical but sexual, I definitely have to change that as that wasn't my intent. I more wanted it to seem like he just wasn't willing to outright admit anything was happening at all.

Thank you both for your responses.

 

[oggbashan]

You can write it. Perhaps you should write it.

But I don't think it is possible as a Literotica story.

 

[FortySixtyFour]

You can write it. Perhaps you should write it.

But I don't think it is possible as a Literotica story.

That's been going through my head a lot, too. I definitely want to write it all out, but maybe I just need those perspectives clear as the author, and the readers can assume what happened by what I gloss over/leave out.

A friend of mine argued that I could definitely write it out non-sexually, but then it wouldn't be smut and why would I posted it up to a smut site then?

 

[FortySixtyFour]

as long as you don't say she's under 18 abusing a woman is a green light and encouraged in countless ways. Go for it. You'll get an awesome fan base of 'real men' who will jerk off to the abuse.

That's ironically what tanked my first serious relationship, she had a thing for getting rough and being slapped/hit and talked down to, which drew a 0mph on my arousal real fast because of my past experiences.

 

[oggbashan]

You can write it. Perhaps you should write it.

But I don't think it is possible as a Literotica story.

That's been going through my head a lot, too. I definitely want to write it all out, but maybe I just need those perspectives clear as the author, and the readers can assume what happened by what I gloss over/leave out.

A friend of mine argued that I could definitely write it out non-sexually, but then it wouldn't be smut and why would I posted it up to a smut site then?

I think you should write it for yourself, not for publication or posting anywhere, and certainly not on Literotica. Just writing it out might help you.

But Literotica's rule on no sex before 18 means that the story is likely to be rejected time and time again whatever is permissable elsewhere.

Once you have written and filed that story, write something fictional. You could use some of the incidents in the real story, but between adults.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Have you considered PMing Laurel? She's the one who makes this call. All the rest of us can do is try to guess at her reaction.

I've PMed her in the past when I had a story that was close to the line on violence, and she responded pretty quickly.

 

[Nezhul]

On the other hand, I PMed her once and she didn't respond at all. So this happens.

Underage themes are really weird on LE, so many things that would be OK on Amazon, even, will not fly here. Of course, no one condones underage sex scenes, but reference to them comes through from time to time.

If you want to mention sex with underage people in any sort of detail - you should prepare you'll be asked to censor it. Even such things like a stepdad kissing his stepdaughter is a no-go, if it's implied he did it for sexual reasons.
What you can safely get away with are fleeting mentions.

"My stepdad molested me when I was young." - will probably fly.
"My stepdad used to put fingers in my pussy and make me cum" - will not, too much details.
"I had my first sex at 14. It was with a girl three years older than me" - Is totally fine. But if you start describing it in detail, what happened, how many orgasms there was, etc - it's a no-go.
"My first kiss was with my stepdad when I was 12" - Will be OK. If you describe the kiss, however - the feelings, the taste, the motivations and circumstances - it's not OK.

I had a story accepted where a girl protagonist admits she was watching porn secretly and masturbating since she was 14. She mentions how she paid an upperclassmen girl to go into sex shop and buy her a dildo. And that was accepted no problem, because while the facts were provided, there were no details..

 

[Nezhul]

Nezel, a Russian immigrant who doens't have a grasp of the English language yet he makes posts in perfect English (lol).

Why, thank you.

I didn't immigrate anywhere though.

 

[Nezhul]

Poor freddie. He has his ladies panties in a wad this morning. Don't pretend to be an abused woman and no one will care what kind of panties you wear.

Now go post your reply in big bold red letters in the AH Cafe like you did last time and we'll see if we can finally get your dumb ass banned once and for all. If you remember, that is how scouries number one alt got banned.

What? You'd rather have an abused African-Mexican incarnation to pop up instead of the molested woman?

 

[oggbashan]

Why, thank you.

I didn't immigrate anywhere though.

You have to emigrate before you can immigrate.

 

[SusanJillParker]

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