Unbreaking America

[BlondeAmbition4RP]

Unbreaking America: Solving the Corruption Crisis

Your thoughts?

 

[JackLuis]

That makes sense! With Congressional approval numbers far less than even Trump's approval numbers, fixing Congress is what we need to do and fixing election laws is the obvious way to do that.

Why does it cost so much to get elected? Advertizing costs mucho ameros. Lobbyists suck the sap out of our government because they advertize. Bankers employ lobbyists as do Oil Co's and all the other corporate interests. Shutting the revolving doors will help as would term limits.

The best thing to do is to pass a law that if you want a drivers licence, you have to prove that you have voted! No vote, no licence!

 

[BotanyBoy]

I get what they are saying and can see a real need to address the problem.

Buuuut congress is probably not going to kill it's own cash cow voluntarily, so it is up to that 87% who support it to make it an issue and push it. Start voting in candidates who make it an issue and push it.

Personally I'd like to see a constitutional amendment strictly forbidding any corporate, industrial or commercial PAC money from entering the political processes nationwide and a cohesive national standard as to how to calculate a contribution maximum for individual contributions and rates.

It locks their monetary support down to individuals at a standardized rate for a given economic region, nation wide, from the ground up.

No need for the vouchers and all this other shit....what the fuck??

 

[Ziggins]

Why does it cost so much to get elected?

It's a competition for power. That will take all that is available, like sports teams buy their championships.

 

[texasnottexas]

Interesting that Citizen's United is not mentioned. Why do you suppose that is? Are the bending to partisan pressure?

 

[DMBFFF]

Unbreaking America: Solving the Corruption Crisis

Your thoughts?

1. I find high heels to be unattractive.
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2. Why is she mean to the guy? 9:18 into the vid? https://youtu.be/TfQij4aQq1k?t=558

3. The video is good, but will require fact-checking.

4. When generally leftists go on about campaign contributions etc, they somewhat diminish the people's abilities. Let's say $1 billion could essentially buy a Senate seat in a state with 6.25 million people—6.25 million per state x 50 states = 312.5 million. If 1 million voters put up $1000 each—$167 a year, they could get that seat.

Most of us live in countries with millions people and with that you're going to have lots of political heterogeneity and more than a little moderation. A lot of the big stuff—slavery and women's suffrage—has been dealt with. Gay marriage—i.e. LGBTs wanting their relationships to be externally validated—is even more of a sideshow than gun control—murder rates have been falling while the NRA seems to be promoters of gun sales—little different than companies promoting cars and smart phones.

A lot of people—and I'm guilty of this too—don't seem to want to put up the effort to really change things. To save America they need Trump, or to get rid of him. What is Trump going to get you that you can't get yourself with some effort? Maybe just a little effort? What will he take from you that can't be easily replaced?

I'm not even sure if the rich are all that rich. Zuckerberg is over 100 000x richer than many of us. Is he 100 000x happier? How about 20x? No?

What if, say, 8% of a country's people each spent 500 hours a year, undistracted: TV off, computers and smart phones off, knowing that much of what they think are solutions are part of marketing and political schemes, and just thinking—a lot for themselves—and acting on some of it. I don't necessarily see revolution resulting, but I see drastic changes—on the whole they might even be positive.

The beauty here is that it doesn't require consensus—just leave the pack of lemmings who are determined to go over a cliff.

Okay, I'm rambling—time to stop and reflect.

 

[BlondeAmbition4RP]

Thanks everyone for sharing your opinions (and so civilly too!).

 

[icanhelp1]

I get what they are saying and can see a real need to address the problem.

Buuuut congress is probably not going to kill it's own cash cow voluntarily, so it is up to that 87% who support it to make it an issue and push it. Start voting in candidates who make it an issue and push it.

You're right on the cash cow issue. Should ban politicians from becoming lobbyist, at least wait for 5 years after they leave office office.

Personally I'd like to see a constitutional amendment strictly forbidding any corporate, industrial or commercial PAC money from entering the political processes nationwide and a cohesive national standard as to how to calculate a contribution maximum for individual contributions and rates.

I've wanted an amendment that address those concerns for at least 30 years.

It locks their monetary support down to individuals at a standardized rate for a given economic region, nation wide, from the ground up.

Agreed! I know you don't care for term limits, but the only way to limit constant campaigning is through term limits. I live in MA, I tried to vote out Ted Kennedy and never came close. People voted him in, I understand that. He had a strong nucleus in Boston and the rest of the state couldn't change it, why? because he had money, influence and the Camelot aura.

No need for the vouchers and all this other shit....what the fuck??

All you have to do is look at Bloomberg and Steyer trying to buy an election.