un unlikely Celeb story?

tiger_smurf

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Anyone who's going to read a celebrity story on this site has to expect a certain degree of unlikelyhood, wouldn't you think? I'm getting tired of people commenting how my story is unlikely to happen. Is it any less likely than the ones about brittany spears having sex with christina aquilera?

I mean come on, brain cells people. Do you go to the movies to see Hellboy and rant on about how "that would totally never happen."?

-ck
 
tiger_smurf said:
Anyone who's going to read a celebrity story on this site has to expect a certain degree of unlikelyhood, wouldn't you think? I'm getting tired of people commenting how my story is unlikely to happen. Is it any less likely than the ones about brittany spears having sex with christina aquilera?

I mean come on, brain cells people. Do you go to the movies to see Hellboy and rant on about how "that would totally never happen."?

-ck

Every time you write a story, you ask the reader to suspend his disbelief. It is your responsibility to write a story where that disbelief remains suspended. It is the responsibility of the reader to enter into the story with a willingness to do so.

Celeb stories require an even larger dose of suspension of disbelief, as the charaters are known to the reader. That said some people will tell you the Rube Goldberg devices in warner bros cartoons won't work. Literalists should avoid reading the Celeb stories as none of them have a high degree of plausibility. I would just ignore the comments if I were you, unless there are enough of them, and they are pointed to some facet of your story that is simply too much to swallow.

-Colly
 
tiger_smurf said:
Anyone who's going to read a celebrity story on this site has to expect a certain degree of unlikelyhood, wouldn't you think? I'm getting tired of people commenting how my story is unlikely to happen. Is it any less likely than the ones about brittany spears having sex with christina aquilera?

I mean come on, brain cells people. Do you go to the movies to see Hellboy and rant on about how "that would totally never happen."?

-ck

I don't think anybody in their right minds would expect celebrity stories to be completely realistic. For one thing, most stories are written about characters rather than the persons who played those character. For example, last year I wrote a story about Kelly Bundy, a character, rather than Christine Applegate who played the character. Other stories have been written about characters in cartoons. Anybody who reads the story has to first accept the meeting with the celebrity as being possible. After that, the writer should keep the celebrity in character. I wrote about Kelly as being a sweet, beautiful, empty-headed young woman who was easily sexually available. This followed the persona of the TV character. If I had portrayed her as being intelligent or virginal it would have just been silly.
 
tiger_smurf said:
Anyone who's going to read a celebrity story on this site has to expect a certain degree of unlikelyhood, wouldn't you think? I'm getting tired of people commenting how my story is unlikely to happen. Is it any less likely than the ones about brittany spears having sex with christina aquilera?

I mean come on, brain cells people. Do you go to the movies to see Hellboy and rant on about how "that would totally never happen."?

-ck

I totally know what you mean and I completely feel the same way. I just recall that one time me and some friends were watching 'Underworld' in the theatre. And one of them was like 'Oh man, this stunt scene is soooooo unlogical' And I just looked over to him and said 'Dude, it's a movie about vampires battling werewolves !'
So come on. Unlikeliness or unreality is not necessarily a bad thing.

Snoopy
 
There are different rules applying to both Celeb and Fantasy. It may be highly unlikely that John Doe would get a surprise visit by Brittany Spears or Arwen, who wants to have a hot, passionate night with him, but both these genres have an unspoken agreement of "What if..."

But that's the only thing that the reader will let slip. The story still has to be realistic. The unbelievable has to be believable.
 
tiger_smurf said:
Anyone who's going to read a celebrity story on this site has to expect a certain degree of unlikelyhood, wouldn't you think? I'm getting tired of people commenting how my story is unlikely to happen. Is it any less likely than the ones about brittany spears having sex with christina aquilera?

I mean come on, brain cells people. Do you go to the movies to see Hellboy and rant on about how "that would totally never happen."?

-ck

Hellboy fan fiction? Where? :)

'Unlikelihood' is a matter of proportion, IMO. If Britney Spears in your story turns out to be an alien visitor from the moons of Jupiter and whisks you off to her boudoir on Io, that could be perfectly plausible given a good buildup. But if she sings a song with touching emotion and innocent beauty, I'm sorry--that's just totally off the wall.

MM
 
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SnoopDog said:
I totally know what you mean and I completely feel the same way. I just recall that one time me and some friends were watching 'Underworld' in the theatre. And one of them was like 'Oh man, this stunt scene is soooooo unlogical' And I just looked over to him and said 'Dude, it's a movie about vampires battling werewolves !'
So come on. Unlikeliness or unreality is not necessarily a bad thing.

Snoopy

(I bet you used your Nextel phones to have that conversation in the theater, didn't you?)

The basic premise can be as unreal or unlikely as you wish, but there ought to be an internally consistent logic even if it is werewolves battling vampires. Plus, the characters should act consistently with their motivations / self-interest. (Or you can ignore all that and depend on special effects and make a boatload of money.)

A lot of fantasy writers hold that the more fantastic the situation, the more rigorous you have to be.

tiger_smurf:

Unless you're willing to limit yourself to celebrities doing each other, I'd disregard comments from people who don't accept the fundamental premise celeb erotica.
 
People read celebrity stories?

I read a lot of stories and I really stay away from celeb fan fic stuff. I enjoy a sense of reality at least a smidge of it. That is why I almost never open up a celeb story unless asked directly.

Of course Sci-fi, non Human, and non English get just as many reads from me.



A lot of fantasy writers hold that the more fantastic the situation, the more rigorous you have to be.

Reason number one not to read celebrity stories while visiting Lit. Only one out of 200 novice authors make any sense. Never mind make the story entertaining.

The show 'Friends' is a funny show! The script is not! The visual makes the show funny!

Whatever it is still a waste of time reading fan fic.
 
There’s a difference between a story’s being realistic and being plausible. No matter how fantastic your story is, you still have to make it plausible and believable. Willful suspension of disbelief doesn’t mean that I can just have a character do whatever I feel like having him or her do. If you have some celeb have a sudden urge to go down on the pizza delivery guy without making it believable, people are going to complain. I haven’t read your story and so I don’t now if this complaint is justified, but that’s a legitimate objection. A big part of our job as authors is to make the unbelievable seem real.

Viewers have a right to complain when space ships make noise in the vacuum of outer space or violate other basic laws of physics. I can accept the fiction that superman’s strong enough to lift a building, but when he carries it around by one corner violating the law of gravity and balance, it loses me. Unless he can change the mass of his body, there’s no way he can balance that building that way.

Similarly if someone uses a bomb that kills only the bad guys and leaves the good guys untouched, I’m going to complain. It’s just not plausible. Some writer has failed to do his job.

---dr.M.
 
Suffice to say my story contained no bombs, spaceships, or anything that defies the laws of physics. And I'm a screenwriting student, so I do know about consistant realities.

I think a few people objected because the event takes place in public and only a couple onlookers noticed it. So, essentially some folks are willing to beleive that kate winslet will fool around with a journalist during an interview, but not the fact that only 3 or 4 people notice.
 
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SlowGuy said:
(I bet you used your Nextel phones to have that conversation in the theater, didn't you?)

The basic premise can be as unreal or unlikely as you wish, but there ought to be an internally consistent logic even if it is werewolves battling vampires. Plus, the characters should act consistently with their motivations / self-interest. (Or you can ignore all that and depend on special effects and make a boatload of money.)

A lot of fantasy writers hold that the more fantastic the situation, the more rigorous you have to be.

tiger_smurf:

Unless you're willing to limit yourself to celebrities doing each other, I'd disregard comments from people who don't accept the fundamental premise celeb erotica.

Well I think nowadays people are overcritical. They just WANT to find errors and goofs and broken laws and so on. They WANT to ruin movies, they like it when they all alone can bring down the reputation of a story. That sucks. Come on people, relax.

Snoopy
 
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