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Colleen Thomas

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. - As California struggled through the 2000-2001 energy crisis, Enron traders gloated about gouging the state. Now state Attorney General Bill Lockyer says federal regulators are heaping insult upon injury by demanding California pay Enron and other energy companies almost $270 million in refunds.

In a motion filed with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (news - web sites), Lockyer said the refunds would reward "the sellers a second time for their market manipulation activities and predatory pricing."


The order was particularly unfair considering recent evidence of market manipulation by energy generators, Lockyer said in an interview Tuesday.


Transcripts have been released of Enron Corp. traders openly and gleefully discussing creating congestion on transmission lines, taking power plants off-line to pump up electricity prices and other manipulation of the California power market.


But FERC has ordered refunds and is calculating how much power companies owe in overcharges from the energy crisis. At issue are megawatts bought and sold through the Independent System Operator, the manager of the state's power grid.


The May order makes it clear that the agency's refund order includes $2.9 billion worth of electricity purchases made by California energy traders in 2001, when the state stepped in to buy power on behalf of three nearly bankrupt utilities.


In his filing on Monday, Lockyer said the state's power buys helped the ISO secure enough energy to keep the lights on. State buyers bought power at the high market price, then resold it at the state's cost "in order to protect California's electricity grid from blackouts."


Most of the state's electricity purchases were used by Pacific Gas and Electric Co. (news - web sites), Southern California Edison (news - web sites) and San Diego Gas & Electric Co.


But some of the power sold into the ISO market was bought by other energy companies, such as Enron. Those are the sales subject to the refund order.


FERC spokesman Bryan Lee said he couldn't comment because the matter was pending before the commission. But in its order, FERC said the state's power trades should be treated the same as other wholesalers.


Because the state bought a lot of power, it will be entitled to refunds nearly equal to what it has to pay in refunds, FERC said.


Gary Ackerman, executive director of the Western Power Trading Forum, said the state was acting as an energy company when it sold power to the ISO, so it should be held to the same rules.


Because the spot market price was ruled too high, FERC set a new benchmark for what power should have cost.


"Any seller who sold at prices above the benchmark will have to refund the difference," said Ackerman, whose group represents electricity sellers. "No one is exempt."


The refunds California could have to pay would go to a variety of energy traders and wholesalers, including: $23 million to Enron; Reliant Energy, $33.7 million; Williams, $25 million; Dynegy, $16.1 million; Mirant, $26.7 million; and $33.2 million to Duke.


Enron spokeswoman Karen Denne said the energy company's lawyers hadn't seen Lockyer's motion and any response would be filed with FERC.
 
ouch Colly, don't make me read that much, I need three lines or less.

Give me the readers digest version. I'm on retard mode today, the blonde roots are showing.

:rose:
 
ABSTRUSE said:
ouch Colly, don't make me read that much, I need three lines or less.

Give me the readers digest version. I'm on retard mode today, the blonde roots are showing.

:rose:

LOL,

Basically, the state of California will have to PAY Enron. While I understand the reasoning of the ruling, it still seems to me to be a massive kick in the head.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
LOL,

Basically, the state of California will have to PAY Enron. While I understand the reasoning of the ruling, it still seems to me to be a massive kick in the head.

-Colly

WTF? That is so wrong. Thanks for giving me the low down, my small brain would have exploded.
~A~:rose:
 
As I recall, all members of the FERC are former employees of energy companies of one sort or another.

That's one of the reasons Enron happened in the first place. The regulators were the bank robbers guarding the bank.

So, of course they're going to insist Enron continues to get paid.

There's that damned sound again. Sounds like people knitting.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
LOL,

Basically, the state of California will have to PAY Enron. While I understand the reasoning of the ruling, it still seems to me to be a massive kick in the head.

-Colly

Don't you just love the law :rolleyes:
 
Svenskaflicka said:
Stealing isn't a crime when it's done by lawyers, politicians or company executives.

Politicians and lawyers police themselves, so its if you don't tell on me then I won't tell on you.
 
No, but seriously, politicians have made some kind of law that allows them to steal from their jobs (the country), without getting punished. They call it "salary" and "parachute retirement deals" and "bonuses".
I just don't get it.
My mother taught me that it's WRONG to take things that don't belong to you..?:confused:
 
Colleen Thomas said:
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - As California struggled through the 2000-2001 energy crisis, Enron traders gloated about gouging the state. Now state Attorney General Bill Lockyer says federal regulators are heaping insult upon injury by demanding California pay Enron and other energy companies almost $270 million in refunds.

WTF?!?

This is why ordinary people go psycho and turn into tower snipers. Thank God there's a waiting period in Florida. I'd go randomly postal.
 
Gotta love how that free enterprise and privatization helps everyone in the end.

And I do mean the end.

---ZQL
 
This is what my grandmother would have called, "the fox guarding the hens." When the regulators are hired out of the industry they regulate, the result is predictable - yet we're still shocked by it.

Enron engineers a crisis in California, and laughs while some elderly people are having heat stroke because they can't pay their a/c bills, and now Enron's industry cronies are "regulating" the situation to their benefit. The SEC investigator assigned to Dubya's insider trading case was his own attorney from the Texas Rangers purchase. In Florida, Hurricane Andrew revealed construction so shoddy that the houses came apart like wet cardboard before the storm was fully here. A few years later, Dubya's brother Jeb becomes governor and with the help of a Republican-controlled legislature, introduces an unexpected solution to the problem of inspectors having too much work and no supervision: he makes the housing construction industry self-policing.

No wonder people listened to Lenin.

There has to be a middle-ground somewhere, because if this is capitalism in the form the neocons prefer, sooner or later the public will notice.
 
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