um, how to start?

This might be me but it sounds like you're trying to rationalize a fantasy involving a bisexual encounter under the context of being forced. Just from a casual read of your post I'm going to tell you what you probably were already looking for when you posted this post and what the 100 odd men a month who post this similar type of post are looking for.... you're likely bisexual and definitely curious about bisexuality at the minimum. And hey that's okay because if you are then you are one a million or so American (making a assumption that could be untrue) men who harbor bisexual fantasies and don't really know how to justify it or rationalize it. Believe it or not, it is acceptable to be bisexual, and yes it doesn't mean you're gay. It doesn't even mean you have to suddenly not like women as much as you used to. :rolleyes:

Welcome to the big wide closeted world of male bisexuality. :rose:
 
Seriously, a sticky to the effect of my last post would be highly useful.
 
Seriously, a sticky to the effect of my last post would be highly useful.

This is good, and gave me a chuckle. I always love your posts HarlotMinx.

There is nothing wrong with you. You want dudes, so what! I like pussy, so what! Fricking investigate, sex feels good. M/M, M/F/ F/F, what the fuck? There is no defining what is normal in your brain. We define normal by how we were raised, and spend a lifetime fighting it what we really are. Don't deny yourself what is pleasurable to you and your wife.

I think HM is right, relish in it, you are lucky and want variety, I, on the other hand only like it one way. You get the best of two worlds (three, four, five, six??).

Enjoy what life has to offer in its immutable permutations.
 
Any ideas? can anyone else relate to this?

Thanks!

In my jerk off fantasies, this used to be the only way that I would get to male-male sex contact. I would start out with a male-female scenario, the add a man to the mix. I was always being forced or coerced into it and I always ended up getting fucked by a man and that is where I would get release.

One of my favorites was being invited to a sex party by a woman. There were other couples there and I start with my date, going down on her. She would insert a finger into my ass while blowing me and lube me up while she was doing it. Then we would start conventional sex. Another man would come along and she would hold me down, hooking her rather strong legs over the back of mine and with the man holding me down with a hand on my back, I couldn't get up. The music was loud and no one could hear me say 'no'. He would proceed to mount me doggy style and pretty soon it was just him and me and I liked it.

That was how it was a long time ago. It was a big hurdle to get over the fact that I did really want to be fucked and wanted a man to do it.
 
HarlotMinx is correct.

Many, many guys like you out there. You are curious, some more experimental than others. Hey, have fun, play safe and sane, does it matter really what you are? (But if you are concerned, from a gay man's perspective, you are not gay.)
 
Ok, so not wondering if I'm "gay" or whatever - of course, no one else can tell me that. My question is more, how do I try this out? I don't really want to hook up with someone on cragslist or something yucky like that. I need a "how to get laid" guide :) I know how to pick up & seduce women, but know nothing about guys, LOL
 
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Ok, so not wondering if I'm "gay" or whatever - of course, no one else can tell me that. My question is more, how do I try this out? I don't really want to hook up with someone on cragslist or something yucky like that. I need a "how to get laid" guide :) I know how to pick up & seduce women, but know nothing about guys, LOL

Haha, guys are easy... ;) No, seriously, we are.

Listen, a nice smile, make eye contact, say hi, strike up a conversation with a guy you find pleasing to you. My gaydar is wonky, but when I am reasonable certain, I will flirt with him. It's fun and daring sometimes. If I feel comfortable with him during a conversation, I will outright tell him that I find him interesting/attractive and would he like to go out for a coffee or lunch sometime (something easy and light).

If you are looking for the shotgun approach, then go to a gay bar. Ask a gay friend to help, there are numerous other websites other than CL out there too.
 
From a psych point of view:
You want to try something that is aberrant to what you view as socially acceptable. You want the safety, in case anyone ever tries to out you or question your desires which includes yourself, of being able to say "I was tied up and forced, it was not my decision".

These are normal. If this is the situation you feel most comfortable in trying for the first time then by all means do so but be safe about it. Giving up control is a dangerous situation. Giving it up to someone you do not know can be even more dangerous.

My suggestion , If you have a gay/bi friend confide in him, heck if you are on good terms with your ex-wife you can talk to her. They will be happy to help I am sure if not participate.

Explore, labels are not something you should worry about. Until you know yourself don't try to force yourself into one role or another.
 
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