Turn Ons - The Driving Forces

lavender said:
Human sexuality researches assert that human sexuality, specifically what turns a person on, is almost entirely learned and culturally influenced.


what about sexual orientation ?

i dont think that is "almost entirely" learned or culturally influenced ... i think sexual orientation is something you're born with ... if thats true then wouldn't part of what turns people on be also something a person is born with


edited to say im not trying to hijack your thread lavender and turn it into a thread about where orientation comes from but i just thought it was relevant or might be
 
lavender said:
Human sexuality researches assert that human sexuality, specifically what turns a person on, is almost entirely learned and culturally influenced.

We discussed this recently, but I've been doing more research on it for an upcoming paper. Do you agree with this assessment? I can't help but agree. That creates a very interesting contradiction within my own beliefs. I have to figure out if I'm comfortable with such a contradiction.

I think reading a lot of feminist literature on pornography has put me in a strange mood lately. At times, I can't help but agree with certain anti-pornography feminists. It's also a view that is hard to stomach. It's hard for me to believe what they say, because it really causes a lot of problems for me regarding the origins and influences on my own sexuality. It also kinda depresses me about the state of women in our society. But, I digress. Your reaction and opinions regarding the first statement, are the ones that interest me.

I'd agree that it's culturally influenced but I don't necessarily see the tie-in to porn. I would think that the cultural conditioning happens at a prepubescent age when most of us are entirely oblivious to any such thing as porn.
 
lavender "Human sexuality researches assert that human sexuality, specifically what turns a person on, is almost entirely learned and culturally influenced"

My first thought to this was "bullshit". But thinking about it, it has to be at least some what true. Otherwise humans would never mate, never propagate, the world would be a less crowded place.

If it weren't culturally influenced, and half the population of a small tribe in Africa thought that blue eyed blondes were attractive, and didn't want to have sex with anyone else, that tribe would die out quickly.
 
So my infatuation for sucking on a breast stems from the fact that I was breast-fed?
 
Hanns_Schmidt said:
no, it stems from the fact that your mother was a cow with big dangly udders

That's why I preferred your mother's breasts Hanns...
 
i think most cultures have a set of sexual behaviors that are deemed appropriate. these behaviors are propagated and encouraged. they are learned the same way we learn cultural standards of beauty.

however, sociology generalizes to a degree that i am often not comfortable with. that is a general trend but there is tremendious individual variation within any culture.
 
The digression you made lends to a good point though, lav.

If we are to learn our sexual turn ons, which by the way is evidently the case, and I am in agreement with that conception, then what we see in porn, magazines and the pop industry can determine all to well to us what to find attractive, even if it isn't realistic, causing many men, men like hannsel to find even your most pretty, average women to be bogus because they aren't living up to the silicon goddesses they lust after. Women can be guilty of this too, and it sucks for those men who don't fit the mold of a woman's outward appearances, based on what is in trend by these means of learning sexual drive motivators.


Let me just say that I relate to your discomfort with this topic.
It is sort of a shame. I realize all too well what my worth to many men I've been with was when I had a perfect body. Too bad those guys didn't learn to respect women for who they are, and not what they look like.

Thank god there are many admireable men don't rely on porn to base their interests and turns ons by.
 
Is there any good reason why everyone continues to allow Hanns to emotionally abuse the people on Lit.
 
GreenEyedGodess said:
Is there any good reason why everyone continues to allow Hanns to emotionally abuse the people on Lit.

Because he's a fucker and there's really nothing to be done about it.

Lavy, I agree that it has to be learned... but who knows what the influences are? I doubt it's as direct as breastfeeding=breast fetish. And if it is that direct, I don't even want to think about the guys that love to give oral.
 
Presets, Phermones & Ignoring Herr Schmidt

GreenEyedGodess said:
Is there any good reason why everyone continues to allow Hanns to emotionally abuse the people on Lit.

I have had Hanns on ignore for some time and I never quote him, so he has no effect on me. I recommend this approach to anyone that dislikes him. He can be right next to you and you'll never hear him.

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Lav, I agree that culture determines a number of "pre-sets" on my dial......but I thought I read somewhere that phermones determine who and what turns us on, skin to skin?
 
Just ignore him, GreenEyedGodess. He's one of the more persistent resident trolls who honestly has nothing better to do. Heck, he can't even get a good jerk-on going. I just pity him, mostly.

As regards the whole turn-on topic. I'm not sure I believe that background and culture determines it. Or at least I don't believe it's entirely dependent on overt culture. I, for instance, come from a background most folks would not readily suspect, given my own turn-ons and sexual preferences. I'm pretty much the opposite in preferences of what I ws taught and learned. I'm not the way I am out of any conscious rebellion. This is just what I've found I like.
 
GreenEyedGodess said:
Is there any good reason why everyone continues to allow Hanns to emotionally abuse the people on Lit.

This oughtta be good.


Okay, smartie pants, how the fuck do you propose we put a stop to it?


OH! You didn't think of that! You figure that was our job, right?

Why not instead of running around ranting to us about how we are supposedly enabling this fuckwad, why don't you fuck off and let us post to what we are interested in, and not be made to feel like we are at fault for this douche bags bad behavior.
 
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